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Top Speeds? | |||
I've been wondering where the info came from for some of the cars' top speeds? For eg. the Super GT in IV, it says it's 105 mph (170 km/h), which seems much too low. I would have thought it was more like 180mph. I have no way to verify this but it would be weird for the R* developers to not be accurate and to scale with top speed. | |||
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I've been working on a table simular to the one used on San Andreas, using information the game actually has when you start a multiplayer "race" type. I'm posting to ask if this would be acceptable. | I've been working on a table simular to the one used on San Andreas, using information the game actually has when you start a multiplayer "race" type. I'm posting to ask if this would be acceptable. | ||
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:Thats quite good. However, I think the number of categories is a bit high. Perhaps you could merge some into lists of about 10 cars ber box? That way the table is perhaps easier to use. For example, police and half of public service can go into 'Emergency', whilst the other half of public-service can be merged with public transport. Same with SUV and pickups. Perhaps people carrier and SUV too? Same with Vans and Trucks. Muscle and 2-door? You get the picture. Having categories with only 4 cars may help some, but it makes it more arkward to do a broader search. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 16:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | :Thats quite good. However, I think the number of categories is a bit high. Perhaps you could merge some into lists of about 10 cars ber box? That way the table is perhaps easier to use. For example, police and half of public service can go into 'Emergency', whilst the other half of public-service can be merged with public transport. Same with SUV and pickups. Perhaps people carrier and SUV too? Same with Vans and Trucks. Muscle and 2-door? You get the picture. Having categories with only 4 cars may help some, but it makes it more arkward to do a broader search. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 16:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
I've added a second table under the first one in [[Vehicles in GTA IV/Table2]]. | I've added a second table under the first one in [[Vehicles in GTA IV/Table2]]. I cut it back to 10 categories. The 4 door and station wagons list is a little long but I couldn't find an easy way to fix that, maybe I'll come up with something better tomorrow when I'm not so tired. [[User:Elbarto90se|Elbarto90se]] 02:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Thanks for that, it's looking great. One criticism I do have is the use of ambiguous terms. Names such as SUV, station wagon and muscle car aren't used as much outside the USA. Also you have Vans and Commercial Vans, so perhaps the sections could be named a bit clearer. I'd suggest the 4 door section simply contains 4 door saloons, then all larger vehicles go into the SUV or 4x4 section, and smaller vehicles go into the 2 door, hatchback or 'smaller cars' category. Muscle cars should definitely go with sports cars, but what about lowriders? They don't count as small cars (even though they have 2 doors), and they don't count as 4x4s/SUVs. Any suggestions on that? I think we're nearly sorted, thanks for all this, great work - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 02:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC) | :Thanks for that, it's looking great. One criticism I do have is the use of ambiguous terms. Names such as SUV, station wagon and muscle car aren't used as much outside the USA. Also you have Vans and Commercial Vans, so perhaps the sections could be named a bit clearer. I'd suggest the 4 door section simply contains 4 door saloons, then all larger vehicles go into the SUV or 4x4 section, and smaller vehicles go into the 2 door, hatchback or 'smaller cars' category. Muscle cars should definitely go with sports cars, but what about lowriders? They don't count as small cars (even though they have 2 doors), and they don't count as 4x4s/SUVs. Any suggestions on that? I think we're nearly sorted, thanks for all this, great work - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 02:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== More Changes to Table? == | == More Changes to Table? == | ||
The Comet vehicle needs to to be in the sports car section of the vehicles table. | The Comet vehicle needs to to be in the sports car section of the vehicles table. It is an extremely high performance vehicle ing GTA IV![[User:Vax217|Vax217]] 03:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Vax217 | ||
I've seen the updates you guys have made to the vehicles page and I like them a lot. | I've seen the updates you guys have made to the vehicles page and I like them a lot. I have a few suggestions, though, to improve the listings. Please let me know if this is okay. | ||
I would consider all of these sports cars - the Coquette, the Turismo, the Super GT, and maybe even the Vigero or Comet. | I would consider all of these sports cars - the Coquette, the Turismo, the Super GT, and maybe even the Vigero or Comet. | ||
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What do you think about muscle cars combining with sports cars? | What do you think about muscle cars combining with sports cars? | ||
Also, I think we could widen the "Normal Cars" column to split the list in half and make two columns. | Also, I think we could widen the "Normal Cars" column to split the list in half and make two columns. Then it wouldn't be so disproportionate to the other columns. | ||
Infernus is in two separate lists. | Infernus is in two separate lists. | ||
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As you should know if you're regular players in GTA IV is that cars have name and brand name now, as well. What I suggest is to make a list with the makers and the cars, in stead of ordering them by their body size. | As you should know if you're regular players in GTA IV is that cars have name and brand name now, as well. What I suggest is to make a list with the makers and the cars, in stead of ordering them by their body size. | ||
:I'm not so sure that the vehicles have "make and model," but more importantly, this table is intended to help readers find a particular vehicle they are looking for. | :I'm not so sure that the vehicles have "make and model," but more importantly, this table is intended to help readers find a particular vehicle they are looking for. It is much easier to find the specific sports car, for instance, that they're looking for with the current format than if the table were ordered by make and model. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
What I meant to say is that the best option would be adding the manufacturers to the cars, besides ordering them by their body size or platform, whatever (just because cars DO have brands, p.e. Classique Stallion, or Vapid Uranus, or Dundreary Admiral). | What I meant to say is that the best option would be adding the manufacturers to the cars, besides ordering them by their body size or platform, whatever (just because cars DO have brands, p.e. Classique Stallion, or Vapid Uranus, or Dundreary Admiral). | ||
IMO, that would make the list more complete and also practical, accounting for your suggestion. Nevertheless, that would difference GTA IV vehicles from those in other GTAs; they don't look similar at all. | IMO, that would make the list more complete and also practical, accounting for your suggestion. Nevertheless, that would difference GTA IV vehicles from those in other GTAs; they don't look similar at all. | ||
:I don't think many people know these vehicles by their brand name, and I don't think a brand name is a useful piece of information in this context. If, for example, I remember a sports car I liked and wanted to know what it was called, I'd look at the pages of all the cars under "Sports Cars" to find a picture of it. Or if I wanted to choose a car to use for a particular function, I'd look under the relevant section and pick from there. Knowing brand names doesn't help at all, and in fact can make it more complicated than it needs to be, considering the cars only say "Stallion" "Uranus" etc when you get in them. Please explain how manufacturer name would help people find things (which is the point of this page)? | :I don't think many people know these vehicles by their brand name, and I don't think a brand name is a useful piece of information in this context. If, for example, I remember a sports car I liked and wanted to know what it was called, I'd look at the pages of all the cars under "Sports Cars" to find a picture of it. Or if I wanted to choose a car to use for a particular function, I'd look under the relevant section and pick from there. Knowing brand names doesn't help at all, and in fact can make it more complicated than it needs to be, considering the cars only say "Stallion" "Uranus" etc when you get in them. Please explain how manufacturer name would help people find things (which is the point of this page)? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 20:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
Well, it could be not necessary, but it would fit perfect as a compliment and it may open this page a gate to talk about brands history, talking about logos, real life basis... | Well, it could be not necessary, but it would fit perfect as a compliment and it may open this page a gate to talk about brands history, talking about logos, real life basis... | ||
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I don't want to argue, man. That is my point of view, and all I wanted to do is to help. | I don't want to argue, man. That is my point of view, and all I wanted to do is to help. | ||
:Don't worry... It's definitely something to think about, we just wanted to explain why it wasn't appropriate for ''this'' page, rather than just saying, "That's a bad idea." | :Don't worry... It's definitely something to think about, we just wanted to explain why it wasn't appropriate for ''this'' page, rather than just saying, "That's a bad idea." You might consider adding this info to the individual cars' pages, as a sort of extra detail. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 19:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Absolutely. Sorry, I didn't mean to dismiss your idea. There should definitely be a [[Car Brands]] or [[Vehicle Manufacturers]] page, with a better name to replace [[:Category:Automotive Makers]]. That page could have a table showing the cars made by each of the main manufacturers. That should be linked to from here. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 19:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC) | ::Absolutely. Sorry, I didn't mean to dismiss your idea. There should definitely be a [[Car Brands]] or [[Vehicle Manufacturers]] page, with a better name to replace [[:Category:Automotive Makers]]. That page could have a table showing the cars made by each of the main manufacturers. That should be linked to from here. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 19:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC) | ||