Community:GTA IV Gripes

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This is the official Grand Theft Wiki GTA IV Gripes list.

For now, this page is open to everybody. If there is any abuse of this page it will be locked, and all submissions will have to go through the Discussion page.

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Gripes about GTA IV

Gameplay

Gripe RebutMinor clothing items are removed during some cut scenes and missions. (glasses, hats)

RebutThis can be easily explained by Niko having manners... i.e. he would remove his hat or glasses before speaking with someone.

Gripe RebutNo store hold ups for easy cash or burglary missions.

Gripe RebutYou can't buy real estate like in San Andreas and Vice City.

Gripe RebutYou can't Own Businesses.

Gripe RebutYou can't do home invasion like in San Andreas.

Gripe RebutThe Hand-to-Hand Combat is not as good as in San Andreas.

Gripe RebutStealth kills as in San Andreas are no longer possible.

Gripe RebutThere aren't as many different clothing styles and options as there used to be, especially in San Andreas and theres very few "silly" options like mad hats and such.

Gripe RebutFriends often call to do things at inconvenient times and are often on the other side of the city.

Gripe RebutFriends don't give you enough time to get to their location before they become impatient.

Gripe RebutYou can't evade or outrun your wanted level in a helicopter.

Gripe RebutThe camera angle is too low with no way to change it, I spend all my driving time holding UP, same as San Andreas.

Gripe RebutThere is no riot cheat! No more chaos.

Gripe RebutSome missions are somewhat difficult to pass.

Gripe RebutOrdering items on TV or at Tw@ does not work. You can't even order vehicles by calling them, even though it says so at AutoErotiCar.com.

Gripe RebutDestruction of buildings isn't featured.

Gripe RebutNo matter how hard players try to get away from the police's radius, cops seem to spawn near the player's vehicle. Hiding is nearly impossible, even on secluded areas.

Gripe RebutYou can longer respond to random comments either positively or negatively.

Gripe RebutYou must keep your 'friends' happy to retain their special perks. It would have been preferable to unlock their abilities once and then be left to the player to decide whether they wish to continue the 'friendship'.

Gripe RebutStreet Gang-Banging and generally street gang-related missions have been dramatically reduced, means, no point in shooting other gang members.

Gripe RebutOnly 9 street races available and difficult to access them through the phone system.

Gripe RebutNo special races that unlock special cars (like Destruction Derby).

Gripe RebutWith so little to buy Money is worthless.

Gripe RebutNo parachute.

Gripe RebutCops manage to shoot your tires out, even if you're going 100mph.

Gripe RebutCrashing on a motorcycle and bailing out of a car aren't fun anymore, and often result in death.

Gripe RebutYou can't order cars from Stevie's garage once the text message missions he gives you are completed.

Gripe RebutCombat is unrealistic and hard to attack people. You'll have to use weapons to kill them instead (not meleé ones).

Gripe RebutDuring shooting missions, you die very easily by shooters before you even run for cover. Enemies somewhat has great aiming, and Body Armor is highly recommended for hard missions.

Gripe RebutAutosave may not happen all the time. Whenever you complete missions, you are forced to save the game manually instead of having the game to automatically save for you.

Gripe RebutYou cant fight the cops like in other GTA games.

Rebut Actually, you can fight cops. Just take out your gun and shoot them. You also fight them in missions, like the Bank Heist.

Gripe RebutThe majority of the good cheats are gone (like chaos, citizens with weapons, cars fly away with hits etc etc etc).

Gripe RebutThere are only 2 pairs of glasses in the whole game, and both of them are ugly.

Vehicles

Gripe RebutThere is no Tank in this game, nor are there airplanes.

RebutTanks would be unrealistic, as the armed forces would not send a tank into New York City after a single man. Airplanes would also be unrealistic because air-travel around New York City is extremely restricted, plus there's really not enough area to need air-travel.

Gripe RebutThere are no car mods or even simply choosing your paint color.

Gripe RebutThe yellow boxes in front of safehouses are stupid and poorly made. Often AI traffic hits them as they're driving, causing the saved cars to disappear. Garages were much better and safer, and less chance of cars disappearing.

Gripe RebutNo "R3" Missions for anything other than the police cruiser.

Gripe RebutThere are not enough special vehicles like golf carts, lawn mowers, and bicycles.

Gripe RebutThere are fewer cars in the game compared to San Andreas, and no fixed-wing aircraft available to the player.

Gripe RebutHow the Voodoo was changed.

Gripe RebutYou can't operate trains like in GTA San Andreas.

Gripe RebutThe Hunter helicopter isn't here anymore.

Gripe RebutWhen Niko steers the car in any direction, the steering wheel doesn't move at all, which left Rockstar Games no explanation to this problem.

Gripe RebutAirbags do not deploy on any vehicles when slammed head-on at high speeds.

Gripe RebutYou can't attach trailers in the back of your truck like in GTA San Andreas.

Gripe RebutBrucie's helicopter is useless. It would have been better if you could fly his helicopter yourself.

Gripe RebutThere are only two unique helicopters in the game, and only 1 of them is armed.

Gripe RebutRare vehicles aren't here anymore.

Gripe RebutYou can't go fast when driving boats because even the smallest wave will completely slow you down.

Gripe RebutNo Hydraulics.

Gripe RebutSome car names have been recycled for new cars and the names don't really make sense with the car they resemble anymore.

Gripe RebutNo remote controlled vehicles (rc-car/plane etc).

Gripe RebutNo gocart.

Gripe RebutThe Quad is absent.

Gripe RebutMost vehicles are very rare like the Infernus which you get only one chance to own, and never see again.

Gripe RebutIconic sports cars like the Stinger and Cheetah are nowhere to be found.

Gripe RebutOnly 1 sportbike is in the game, while GTA:SA had about 6 or 7.

Gripe RebutRoofs from vehicles doesn't get crushed when you roll over. There aren't any roll bars from any cars.

Gripe RebutThe Dozer is gone, regardless on gong into any construction sites.

Gripe RebutThere are only 5 residential vehicle parking spaces, which means you are forced to store few of your favorite cars into the parking space, since Rockstar Games refused to explain why.

Weapons

Gripe RebutAmmo limits are really, really annoying.

RebutThis is personal opinion. Ammo limits are not so low that it's difficult to complete missions. In fact, it's more than enough.

Gripe RebutThere are not enough "special" weapons like the chainsaw, the golf club, the pool cue, or the fire extinguisher like there were in GTA San Andreas.

Gripe RebutWeapons are now seen on top of buildings, which is harder to find.

Gripe RebutTear Gas and Satchel Bomb was removed.

Gripe RebutRPG can only hold 8 rockets.

Gripe RebutWeapons stores are few and far between.

Gripe RebutLittle Jacob doesn't sell all the weapons, so an expensive trip to the gun store is required.

Gripe RebutDual-wielding weapons is no longer possible.

Gripe RebutYou can't use free-aim because the targeting reticule automatically locks on to pedestrians, so you'll have to use your Sniper Rifle to shoot pigeons.

Gripe RebutWhere is the fire extinguisher?

Gripe RebutNo one handed gun use.

In-game World

Gripe RebutNo random games like the off track betting, Pogo the monkey or other arcade games save from Qub3d.

RebutNo, but the player can play pool or darts, or go bowling. New games for a new game.

Gripe RebutThere are only 3 unique Clothing stores in the game.

Gripe RebutGiven that a generic interior could be created, there's too few stores and the like to wander into compared to San Andreas (Cluckin' Bell outlets as just a facade with no way in).

Gripe RebutThe trees are invincible.

Gripe RebutWell Stacked Pizza is missing.

Gripe RebutMilitary base is completely gone.

Gripe RebutProLaps are seen at the Starlight District, but is no longer accessible. Didier Sachs may be seen at the same location, but is also inaccessible, including Binco.

Gripe RebutYou can't go underwater to see fishes, dolphins, turtles, even sharks.

Gripe RebutThe two largest straightaways in Alqonquin are both under construction, leaving no place to really go fast.

Gripe RebutAlderney doesn't have any food stores and barely any places of interest, making it a useless area to visit.

Gripe RebutThe Bars is inaccessible because you have to be accompanied by a friend.

Gripe RebutRockstar Changed The Name Of The Islands(i.e. Staunton and portlands name are changed).

Gripe RebutThe Alderney safehouse is crappy and run-down, a downgrade even though the Algonquin safehouses are luxurious and much bigger.

Gripe RebutGrand Central Terminal isn't accessible, despite being in the game.

Gripe RebutZIP clothing shop is gone.

Characters

Gripe RebutReturning characters are completely absent, such as Claude Speed, El Burro, 8-Ball or even Toni Cipriani. There is little explanation why Rockstar Games did not return older chaacters from the past GTA eras.

RebutThere is an Easter Egg that shows the previous protagonists along with "R.I.P."

Gripe RebutPedestrian conversations are repetitive and are no where near as funny as they used to be.

Gripe RebutSome of the characters are downright painful and tedious. ie Brucie, Dwayne etc.

Story

Gripe RebutThe humor is weak throughout the game.

RebutThat is a personal opinion. I, for one, found many conversations hilarious.