Forum:Whatever happened to carl jhonsen?
as Im sure you all know, carl jhonson is the protagonist in gta sa. but what happened to him? I saw a video on youtube and this guy was looking through a sniper scope at some newspapers. The newspapers were graffitied and they all sure enough had R.I.P. (rest in peace) written on them, and Im almost positive I saw the letters CJ on one and that was the protagonists nickname. if anyone has any ideas post them here please. Im fairly sure me and my freind would like to know. (--GTAddict 21:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC))
we wont know we can only use our imagination, i reckon Salvatore put a hit on cj for petraing him.
ps:you can read about this one and many more of what i think happened to the protagonists on my forum:protagonists fate.
In LCS, Toni comes out of hiding after killing a made man. Maybe the made man was CJ?
Toni killed a made man,cj wasn't a made man.
Not in Liberty City, but he robbed Sal's casino and possibly gave an order for Toni to kill CJ or led CJ into a trap in Liberty City by "forgiving him" and saying he's going to be made, and is. But then is killed. I'm just presenting what I think..
cj cant be made hes not Italian.
JD was about to be made, but then got murdered. It's possible that Sal before getting killed, ordered the hit on CJ. CJ could be considered a "made man" without really ever having a ceremony. I think CJ was killed with ties tracing back to the Leone organization.
good point but i don't think cjs that dumb.
maybe... maybe after th game CJ went back to liberty city seeing as he didnt have anything left to do there (seeing as big smoke and ryder betrayed him. I still smile when I remember killing ryder.)and decided to take sweet with him. he would have tried to do his best to stay out of salvatores way but sal eventually found out, and maybe... I dont know. sal may have ordered a hit. but this would only make sense if he went back to liberty city. (--GTAddict 12:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC))
yer but why would toni go hidding over killing cj. and another thing they wouldnt be saying he killed a made man.
maybe the made man wasnt toni, and he may not have been made yet still have forced toni to go into hidin for it. CJ made a big name for himself as (spoiler coming up) madd doggs manager. murders can be traced, and in most cases, they are always found out. especially if the victim is a celebrity (CJ is technically a celebrity now as MD's manager).
I don't believe "CJ" 2 officially be deceased
As I mentioned above there I don't believe they ever officially killed Carl. The graffiti depicting r.i.p. was I think more a symbol that they are done dealing with the past characters in the GTA world than them actually having killed them off. Isn't CJ seen on the commercial 4 the I'm rich show skydiving? Just let that bake your noodle 4 a moment. CJ present day would be like 50 or so and wouldn't really be himself anymore and Claude kills Salvatore in GTA 3 so I don't think there were any hits seeing as how CJ had so many connections he is bound 2 be untouchable. He did some xXx Vin Diesel type missions 4 Toreno and took down the Police in S.A.Would make 4 and interesting game 2 see his brother after the events get down protagonist style.
actually, the more I think about it the more I agree with you. theres also a billboard near the second alonquin safehouse with a character that looks EXACTLY like carl jhonsen... and the thing you said about him being on 'I'm rich'... thats kinda undeniable. so maybe the ending to this story is that cj isnt dead, he's made a big name for himself as madd doggs manager and is now on 'I'm rich'. wow. talk about a happy ending. never normally ends like that in gta games. case, ca losed. (--GTAddict 10:42, 18 July 2009 (UTC))
- Can't argue with you about the billboard, but the "I'm Rich" thing is perfectly explicable, in that many of the TV scenes for GTA IV were filmed using SA. Another example is the commercial for the game's version of NASCAR, which just has CJ driving a Hotring Racer around one of the airports. Equally, there are shots of Los Santos for Tony McTony (his mansion is there, see his article on here, I put a picture up) in I'm Rich, and the Las Venturas Poker challenge frequently shows parts of Las Venturas as seen in SA. CJ appearing on the TV really says nothing at all about how "alive" he is... C-d-rom 12:42, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
damn, this case is never closed.
Man, can't you guys ever stop! Rockstar CONFIRMED that the GTA III era is not connected to the GTA IV era. Why don't you just accept it?! Those things in GTA IV are Easter Eggs or they used GTA:SA to show something in taking place in San Andreas. And everyone dies. That's a fact. Nobody lives forever.
Master Sima Yi 2 August 2009
I am FULLY aware of that, but what i am saying is, why would they put something like this if there is no relation to previous GTA games? (--GTAddict 16:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC))
maybe its not CJ? maybe its just a guy who looks like CJ? if not, easter egg?Delo19xcrowbarx 07:35, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
hmm... I've actually kinda lost interest now. but on a similar basis, I may be being racist unkowingly, but doesnt luis lopez looks a bit like CJ? maybe luis is the person on the billboard? --GTAddict 19:15, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
why would Luis be on the billboard? maybe its a TBOGT easter egg in GTA4. But did R* know that they would do the DLCs when they made GTA4? Mabye during GTA4 development Luis was a model who became a hitman, but then they retconned it. Or CJ exists in GTA4, just not the same history, like Laszlo. its probably not either of them.Delo19xcrowbarx 07:06, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
of course they knew they were going to make more episodes. it all fits in perfectly well, doesnt it? how else would they fit luis and jhonny into those scenes? (--GTAddict 07:42, August 3, 2010 (UTC))
i guess that makes sence. so was it CJ or not? Delo19xcrowbarx 07:45, August 5, 2010 (UTC)