https://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Staff_Noticeboard/archive1&feed=atom&action=historyGrand Theft Wiki talk:Staff Noticeboard/archive1 - Revision history2024-03-28T14:35:53ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.40.0https://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Staff_Noticeboard/archive1&diff=316261&oldid=prevGboyers: Removing redlinks2011-05-02T12:30:24Z<p>Removing redlinks</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Michelle (SA)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>(which is a city) or <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Michelle (GTA SA)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>or <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Michelle (GTA San Andreas)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to Michelle (SA) (which is a city) or Michelle (GTA SA) or Michelle (GTA San Andreas)? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity. Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Michelle (GTA SA)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Michelle (GTA LCS)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>, etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role. There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go. We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity. Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], Michelle (GTA SA), Michelle (GTA LCS), etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role. There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go. We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What has the promotion procedure become? It is managers decide isn't it? As for Eganio and GK, I agree that they are inactive. Just FYI, Eganio has edited three times since he disappeared and one edit was to a user talk page. He said something about "sorry for the delayed reply, I've been busy", so it seems like he plans on coming back. GK ''is'' on sometimes and has said on her userpage that she's busy and is coming back (you probably already know most of that, but anyway). The orange does look better, and the templates/colour matching sounds like a good idea. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 03:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::What has the promotion procedure become? It is managers decide isn't it? As for Eganio and GK, I agree that they are inactive. Just FYI, Eganio has edited three times since he disappeared and one edit was to a user talk page. He said something about "sorry for the delayed reply, I've been busy", so it seems like he plans on coming back. GK ''is'' on sometimes and has said on her userpage that she's busy and is coming back (you probably already know most of that, but anyway). The orange does look better, and the templates/colour matching sounds like a good idea. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 03:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Two things. Firstly, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>MediaWiki:Monaco.css<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>still says ''ADMIN - Blue - bold'', (you didn't change it when you changed the colour) and ''Not talk page''. The other thing is, why did you force talk page links into lowercase? I noticed when in RC I saw a link to [[User talk:A-Dust]]. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Two things. Firstly, MediaWiki:Monaco.css still says ''ADMIN - Blue - bold'', (you didn't change it when you changed the colour) and ''Not talk page''. The other thing is, why did you force talk page links into lowercase? I noticed when in RC I saw a link to [[User talk:A-Dust]]. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I was only going to finanlise the comments etc on monaco.css when we'd decided on colours etc. Currently we're still in "testing it out" mode, unless everyone agrees. The talk page link lowercase one was cos I must have copied the wrong bit from my line (which is lowercase for reasons I explained earlier). Feel free to fix both of those problems (since you asked me first)! [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I was only going to finanlise the comments etc on monaco.css when we'd decided on colours etc. Currently we're still in "testing it out" mode, unless everyone agrees. The talk page link lowercase one was cos I must have copied the wrong bit from my line (which is lowercase for reasons I explained earlier). Feel free to fix both of those problems (since you asked me first)! [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ive set up a page here: <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Grand Theft Wiki:IRC/Staff<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>. If all of the staff would fill in what times you could be available to join the IRC channel, it would be appreciated. We'd like to see if we can arrange an IRC Staff meeting. Any questions on the [[Grand Theft Wiki talk:IRC/Staff|talk page]]. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 17:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ive set up a page here: Grand Theft Wiki:IRC/Staff. If all of the staff would fill in what times you could be available to join the IRC channel, it would be appreciated. We'd like to see if we can arrange an IRC Staff meeting. Any questions on the [[Grand Theft Wiki talk:IRC/Staff|talk page]]. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 17:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do you think about adding a Welcome header to the [[User talk:Wikia|Wikia Welcome Tool]] so that users don't end up with talk pages that have a welcome at the top before the TOC? I asked Wikia about this (thinking that it was a Wikia-wide thing) and they said that this can be done by editing [[MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user]] (I don't know why the link is red, but it still works) and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>MediaWiki:Welcome-message-anon<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>(but only managers can edit them). Also, the tool only seems to work using admin/managers usernames, so Gboyers might have to ask Wikia to enable it for moderators (if you want to). '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do you think about adding a Welcome header to the [[User talk:Wikia|Wikia Welcome Tool]] so that users don't end up with talk pages that have a welcome at the top before the TOC? I asked Wikia about this (thinking that it was a Wikia-wide thing) and they said that this can be done by editing [[MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user]] (I don't know why the link is red, but it still works) and MediaWiki:Welcome-message-anon (but only managers can edit them). Also, the tool only seems to work using admin/managers usernames, so Gboyers might have to ask Wikia to enable it for moderators (if you want to). '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A couple of users have been writing mission pages which include a lot of inappropriate/informal language and swearing. An example of this is [<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://gta.wikia.com</del>/index.php?title=Have_a_Heart&diff=prev&oldid=37929 here]. I deal with this whenever I see it, but keep your eyes peeled for walkthroughs that are worse than just badly-structured. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:47, 25 July 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A couple of users have been writing mission pages which include a lot of inappropriate/informal language and swearing. An example of this is [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{SERVER}}</ins>/index.php?title=Have_a_Heart&diff=prev&oldid=37929 here]. I deal with this whenever I see it, but keep your eyes peeled for walkthroughs that are worse than just badly-structured. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:47, 25 July 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As you can see in the discussion [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:JoePlay#Main_Page_Rename here], one official Wikia Helper (volunteer intersite admin) decided to rename our [[Main Page]] to "Grand Theft Auto wiki" without our consent, and without any discussion in our community. This is because Wikia want all the main pages to match the name of the wiki, for popularity in search engines, which means more money in advertising for them. However, I feel [[Main Page]] better serves the title of that page within this wiki. Discussion on what to name the page is going on [<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://gta.wikia.com</del>/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Naming_of_Main_Page here]. I reverted the move, since it wasn't discussed with us beforehand. If this is repeated without our consent, please revert it. I have protected the ability to ''move'' the front page (anyone can still edit). I will not have Wikia interfering like this again, especially not for advertising or financial purposes. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 17:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As you can see in the discussion [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:JoePlay#Main_Page_Rename here], one official Wikia Helper (volunteer intersite admin) decided to rename our [[Main Page]] to "Grand Theft Auto wiki" without our consent, and without any discussion in our community. This is because Wikia want all the main pages to match the name of the wiki, for popularity in search engines, which means more money in advertising for them. However, I feel [[Main Page]] better serves the title of that page within this wiki. Discussion on what to name the page is going on [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{SERVER}}</ins>/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Naming_of_Main_Page here]. I reverted the move, since it wasn't discussed with us beforehand. If this is repeated without our consent, please revert it. I have protected the ability to ''move'' the front page (anyone can still edit). I will not have Wikia interfering like this again, especially not for advertising or financial purposes. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 17:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do people think of our current portals - [[Portal:GTA IV]], [[Portal:Characters]] and [[Portal:Vehicles]]? None of them look finished, so could anyone volunteer to jazz them up and keep refreshing the featured articles. Check out some portals on Wikipedia such as [[wp:Portal:Architecture]] and also on Wikiversity such as [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Primary_Education Primary Education]. Feel free to just hack the portals to pieces and change them completely. We should also think about doing more with the [[Community Portal]], as currently there's a big jump between visiting and getting involved. I'm also trying to make more use of "edit this section" links, so people can edit content without being hit by the [<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://gta.wikia.com</del>/index.php?title=Template:Navbox&action=edit big scary code] - so bear that in mind when designing portals. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do people think of our current portals - [[Portal:GTA IV]], [[Portal:Characters]] and [[Portal:Vehicles]]? None of them look finished, so could anyone volunteer to jazz them up and keep refreshing the featured articles. Check out some portals on Wikipedia such as [[wp:Portal:Architecture]] and also on Wikiversity such as [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Primary_Education Primary Education]. Feel free to just hack the portals to pieces and change them completely. We should also think about doing more with the [[Community Portal]], as currently there's a big jump between visiting and getting involved. I'm also trying to make more use of "edit this section" links, so people can edit content without being hit by the [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{SERVER}}</ins>/index.php?title=Template:Navbox&action=edit big scary code] - so bear that in mind when designing portals. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>After talking to staff from [[:de:]], they have asked if they can use images from our wiki. The problem is that they don't want to go through and add a copyright template to every single image they've taken. Since we have [<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://gta.wikia.com</del>/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&ns6=1&ns7=1&search=german&fulltext=Advanced+search a lot of images] from their wiki, I have agreed that we no longer need to specify the source for images used across these wikis. This allows us to use any image on the German GTA wikia without expressly saying where it came from (but if you can, it helps), and they can do the same with our images. I will try and agree with Wikia a method where we can simply include images from another wiki, like <code><nowiki>[[:de:Bild:Image.jpg]]</nowiki></code>, but I doubt that will happen. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 15:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>After talking to staff from [[:de:]], they have asked if they can use images from our wiki. The problem is that they don't want to go through and add a copyright template to every single image they've taken. Since we have [<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{SERVER}}</ins>/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&ns6=1&ns7=1&search=german&fulltext=Advanced+search a lot of images] from their wiki, I have agreed that we no longer need to specify the source for images used across these wikis. This allows us to use any image on the German GTA wikia without expressly saying where it came from (but if you can, it helps), and they can do the same with our images. I will try and agree with Wikia a method where we can simply include images from another wiki, like <code><nowiki>[[:de:Bild:Image.jpg]]</nowiki></code>, but I doubt that will happen. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 15:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to [[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Michelle Cannes|</del>Michelle (<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">GTA </del>SA)]] (which is a city) or [[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Michelle Cannes|</del>Michelle (GTA SA)]] or [[Michelle (GTA San Andreas)]]? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to [[Michelle (SA)]] (which is a city) or [[Michelle (GTA SA)]] or [[Michelle (GTA San Andreas)]]? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity. Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], [[Michelle (GTA SA)]], [[Michelle (GTA LCS)]], etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role. There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go. We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity. Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], [[Michelle (GTA SA)]], [[Michelle (GTA LCS)]], etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role. There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go. We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to [[Michelle (SA)]] (which is a city) or [[Michelle (GTA SA)]] or [[Michelle (GTA San Andreas)]]? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to [[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Michelle Cannes|</ins>Michelle (<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">GTA </ins>SA)]] (which is a city) or [[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Michelle Cannes|</ins>Michelle (GTA SA)]] or [[Michelle (GTA San Andreas)]]? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity. Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], [[Michelle (GTA SA)]], [[Michelle (GTA LCS)]], etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role. There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go. We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity. Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], [[Michelle (GTA SA)]], [[Michelle (GTA LCS)]], etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role. There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go. We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Gboyershttps://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Staff_Noticeboard/archive1&diff=126788&oldid=prevGtabot: Renaming category2009-04-26T21:15:25Z<p>Renaming category</p>
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</table>Gboyershttps://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Staff_Noticeboard/archive1&diff=126786&oldid=prevGboyers: /* Images from German Wikia */ new section2009-04-17T15:38:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Images from German Wikia: </span> new section</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do people think of our current portals - [[Portal:GTA IV]], [[Portal:Characters]] and [[Portal:Vehicles]]? None of them look finished, so could anyone volunteer to jazz them up and keep refreshing the featured articles. Check out some portals on Wikipedia such as [[wp:Portal:Architecture]] and also on Wikiversity such as [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Primary_Education Primary Education]. Feel free to just hack the portals to pieces and change them completely. We should also think about doing more with the [[Community Portal]], as currently there's a big jump between visiting and getting involved. I'm also trying to make more use of "edit this section" links, so people can edit content without being hit by the [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Navbox&action=edit big scary code] - so bear that in mind when designing portals. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What do people think of our current portals - [[Portal:GTA IV]], [[Portal:Characters]] and [[Portal:Vehicles]]? None of them look finished, so could anyone volunteer to jazz them up and keep refreshing the featured articles. Check out some portals on Wikipedia such as [[wp:Portal:Architecture]] and also on Wikiversity such as [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Primary_Education Primary Education]. Feel free to just hack the portals to pieces and change them completely. We should also think about doing more with the [[Community Portal]], as currently there's a big jump between visiting and getting involved. I'm also trying to make more use of "edit this section" links, so people can edit content without being hit by the [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Navbox&action=edit big scary code] - so bear that in mind when designing portals. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">After talking to staff from [[:de:]], they have asked if they can use images from our wiki. The problem is that they don't want to go through and add a copyright template to every single image they've taken. Since we have [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&ns6=1&ns7=1&search=german&fulltext=Advanced+search a lot of images] from their wiki, I have agreed that we no longer need to specify the source for images used across these wikis. This allows us to use any image on the German GTA wikia without expressly saying where it came from (but if you can, it helps), and they can do the same with our images. I will try and agree with Wikia a method where we can simply include images from another wiki, like <code><nowiki>[[:de:Bild:Image.jpg]]</nowiki></code>, but I doubt that will happen. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 15:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Gboyershttps://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Staff_Noticeboard/archive1&diff=126785&oldid=prevGboyers: protected pages & portals2009-04-17T01:01:06Z<p>protected pages & portals</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Some good suggestions! I'll do that header part. It's a red link because the page hasn't been filled in. The content isn't in that page until we put it there, what you see is actually imported from wikia (since we dont have it customised yet). We just edit that page and it works. We can also change whose name appears (eg so it could be the same person every time) - but we could make it randomly pick between a list of staff? I don't think we can still make it use the last person to edit, so perhaps it's better staying as it is to make sure they get someone active to speak to?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Some good suggestions! I'll do that header part. It's a red link because the page hasn't been filled in. The content isn't in that page until we put it there, what you see is actually imported from wikia (since we dont have it customised yet). We just edit that page and it works. We can also change whose name appears (eg so it could be the same person every time) - but we could make it randomly pick between a list of staff? I don't think we can still make it use the last person to edit, so perhaps it's better staying as it is to make sure they get someone active to speak to?</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">NB: If [[Moderators]] cannot edit this page, post on the [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|talk page]] instead. I will try to remedy this situation fairly quickly. The problem is that there are two levels of protected pages. There are ones we protect to stop them being broken or vandalised (like {{template|GTA}} or the [[Main Page]] occasionally), and there are ones we protect to stop deliberate abuse (such as [[Staff]]). Of course moderators should have access to the first group, but not the latter. Currently we trust [[Administrators]] with access to all protected pages, but [[Moderators]] are often quite new and only being tried out, so giving them unrestricted access to the entire wiki is a very big step. If we allow moderators to access these, it will make it harder to become a moderator (which I want to be quite easy), or if we don't them I might be tempted to promote people to admin quicker. What do you think? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What do people think of our current portals - [[Portal:GTA IV]], [[Portal:Characters]] and [[Portal:Vehicles]]? None of them look finished, so could anyone volunteer to jazz them up and keep refreshing the featured articles. Check out some portals on Wikipedia such as [[wp:Portal:Architecture]] and also on Wikiversity such as [http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Primary_Education Primary Education]. Feel free to just hack the portals to pieces and change them completely. We should also think about doing more with the [[Community Portal]], as currently there's a big jump between visiting and getting involved. I'm also trying to make more use of "edit this section" links, so people can edit content without being hit by the [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Navbox&action=edit big scary code] - so bear that in mind when designing portals. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:01, 17 April 2009 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>
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