Myths in GTA San Andreas
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There are a variety of myths, legends and rumours revolving around Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
Most of these do not actually exist in the game, but there are many Easter Eggs in this and other GTA games. Nevertheless, many GTA gamers and even organised groups of mythhunters spend many hours tracking down the mythical creatures, locations and vehicles.
Bigfoot is one of the most popular myths associated with the game. Although many people claim that they have seen Bigfoot, there is no proof that he exists, and many videos captured of Bigfoot are either glitches, mods, or made-up. Moreover, Rockstar confirmed in an interview that Bigfoot doesn't exist in the game. Refer to the main article for more information on Bigfoot.
Loch Ness Monster
The legend of the Loch Ness monster was one of the first myths to emerge. It was believed that it appears in the Fisher's Lagoon, one of the few lakes accessible by the player at the very beginning of the game. Like many other myths, this had a strong support back in 2005, but lacks any evidence or in-game references, which would seem to classify this myth as fake. It was later confirmed by a Rockstar spokesman that the 'Nessie' myth is fake.
UFOs are another popular myth of GTA San Andreas. As of this time, a Rockstar spokesman was interviewed and when they asked him about UFOs he changed the subject. Later in another interview, a Rockstar spokesman said: "We did not initially put UFOs in-game. However, there may be some data still in the game we thought to have deleted." This has aroused suspicion among certain areas of the fanbase. Sometimes on the streets, you can hear a pedestrian discuss about a UFO attack on their car.
People have claimed to have seen sharks in the waters of San Andreas. They are said to be just mods, but others claim they're just rare. It is unknown if these sharks actually exist in the game. Some have stated that sharks actually attack Carl Johnson and kill him; others say they just swim away frightened. People have actually mistaken dolphins for sharks because they look similar in game. Like Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, the sharks in GTA San Andreas are invincible and will not die after being shot. People have said that sharks are only found underneath the Gant Bridge. The IMG tool for gta3.img on San Andreas actually proves that sharks exist in San Andreas because it states that the shark.dff file is in the game. As seen in numerous videos, the shark doesn't even attack Carl Johnson and highly resembles a White Tip Shark.
There's an abandoned wheelchair at the end of the wharf in Fisher's Lagoon. It uses the same texture as a waste skip in Bayside Marina. The wheelchair was believed by many to be a reference to the movie The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, as one of the youths in this movie is in a wheelchair, but is in fact more likely a reference to the Rockstar game Manhunt, where it can be seen at the beginning. The following pedestrian dialog can be heard in Palomino Creek:
- Have you seen this disabled person chair moving?
- No, have you?
- Neither have I, bye-bye!
Some people see timings on the front wheels of the chair and assume that something will happen at those times. The "mystery of the chair" was never solved in the standard GTA game, and it is believed the chair doesn't carry any hidden meaning. Although, when two members of GTAForums launched their own competition called GTA Treasurehunt, in which the last mission involved solving the wheelchair mystery. After the lake was filled up with rocks and stones a dead body was found floating in the middle. This is, however, strictly non-canon.
Although many people try to connect the skip with the wheelchair, It is obvious that Rockstar Games did not bother to create a new texture dedicated to this simple useless model, the skip texture appeared rusty, so that used that instead of creating a new one.
The Ghost Cars myth is essentially based upon the misinterpretation of a minor glitch. The myth centered on the abandoned cars, which spawn in the rural areas of San Andreas. If they spawn on a slope, they roll down it as if they're being driven. Some curious players investigated the cars and found that there was nobody in it, thus leading them to believe that the car was driving itself. However, there is nothing particularly strange about the vehicles themselves, as they were simply put there in case the player got stranded in the countryside without a vehicle. There is a mod involving the Glendales in the Back o Beyond. Once activated, players that go near a parked Glendale, the car's lights will turn on, and start attacking players (this mod also applies to the beat-up Sadler near the ghost car area).
Some people have also claimed to have seen a ghostly Vortex shrouded by a "ghostly mist" in the San Fierro bay area. The reason that it moves is because, like the Glendale, it spawns on a slope, and the "mist" is the result of the sand being kicked up as it slides down the beach.
There is also a random car parked in a driveway in Playa del Seville that sometimes rolls down into the road (this depends on the car).
Also, from time to time, a certain glitch may occur. If the driver shoots and kills the driver of a car, sometimes, the person's body may not fall out. When this happens, the car still drives itself as if the driver was never killed. The only way to stop the car is to carjack the owner and take the car as shooting the already dead body will not work.
Girl from the TV/Samara
This myth is also the one that did not get much support - in fact, it all has started with a video uploaded onto YouTube in 2006, featuring CJ in his living room looking around when the black girl appears from the television in the corner and disappears a second later. There is no other proof of this girl. It is believed that it is either a glitch which caused a pedestrian to spawn in the house by mistake and was removed by the game immediately, or it was a mod for the PC version of GTA San Andreas. The dark figure looks very similar to a homeless pedestrian from San Fierro which has a sign that reads "God is playing with us!" on his chest - there was even a video on YouTube comparing both the TV girl and the tramp pictures.
Horses in Las Barrancas
The reference to horses can be found on the Rockstar website, on the Tierra Robada section of the map. When the cursor is positioned over the Las Barrancas icon, the following text can be seen at the bottom of the map:
A quaint desert town steeped in local history, home to preserved Hopi ruins and the terrible setting of the Barrancas Mass Grave. In 1842, the 66th Cavalry, under the command of Colonel Henry Bolt, was stationed in nearby Fort Carson when they answered a call for help from homesteaders under attack from bandits. Riding to the rescue, the whole force fell down a hole. It is said that the sound of a hundred horses can be heard riding through the town at midnight...
Though there is little support/speculation, some people spent some time trying to hear the sound of horses at midnight, but failed to do so. It is unclear which hole was mentioned in the legend and whether it still exists. So far no evidence has been found about the presence of any type of anomaly in Las Barrancas.
Many people have taken the "hole" referenced here to be the mass grave near Las Brujas. This would seem incongruous however, as they are on opposite sides of the river, and the hole in question is both up against a wall and too small for an entire cavalry division to fall into.
Panopticon Killer/Leatherface/Chainsaw Killer/Piggsy
Another strong myth of GTA San Andreas is the Chainsaw killer. He has many names such as Leatherface from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Piggsy from another Rockstar game, Manhunt, and even Hitler, but to avoid confusion this article will refer to him as The Killer. The whole idea of The Killer started when somebody said that he/she heard a chainsaw in The Panopticon area. Many have assumed this to be true due to the nature of the area - it looks scary when it is foggy, is full of small sheds and cut-down trees and contains a chainsaw pickup. The strange sound can be heard during rainy weather on the first version of the game as a glitch. Over time, the myth has evolved and people have started to find out more clues and weird objects. It is said that The Killer lives in the countryside near the Shady Cabin in the Panopticon, uses a chainsaw or a firearm to kill his victims, and appears from behind the player (usually from the house) and kills him almost instantly. Although many people have claimed that they have seen The Killer, there is still no strong evidence to confirm his existence. There are also many descriptions of The Killer; they all differ, which makes it difficult to believe that The Killer's existence is plausible. His existence has also been reported at Mount Chiliad, Fisher's Lagoon, Shady Cabin, and other farms. There have been sightings of Leatherface in Fisher's Lagoon near the wheelchair and the little house on the shore. Two dead bodies (a man and a woman) can be found on the road going up Mount Chiliad, implying that the killer killed them during sex.
Leatherface has been proved to be a pedestrian who spawns with a chainsaw in the Mission "The Meat Business" and is believed to have been used by Rockstar Games outside of that mission.
This myth is very similar to the Panopticon Killer. The only difference is that this man lives in the desert and uses a rifle to kill his victims. The majority of people tend to think that he lives in a small house in Tierra Robada, not far from a Cluckin' Bell. Some people have posted videos of him in Fort Carson with a combat shotgun or unarmed. He is believed to be the same man as "Mr. Trenchcoat" (see the UFOs article for more information). He can often be seen on the small dirt road next to the river, just meters away from his house, and in the Lil' Probe Inn. To be fair, the image presented of the "killer" is merely a pedestrian model that can be found in many other towns nearby, even multiple times over, same as with any other model. People have claimed that this person starts randomly shooting and killing other pedestrians; at this moment, no evidence has been found. It is believed that this myth started when someone had a riot cheat enabled without realizing it. The myth of the serial killer is sometimes linked with the myth of the Las Venturas desert Mass Grave.
This, just like Bigfoot and Leatherface, is another myth that some people have claimed to have encountered while playing the game. The most common hearing of these horror voices is on Mount Chiliad, in a shack halfway up the mountain, used in a mission in the game. It was midnight and stormy when these hearings happened. Some believe that it is just a mod or a hoax. Other people claimed to hear the screaming voices in Panopticon area and in Back o' Beyond. However, it was later discovered that in one case the "screaming voice" was the sound of an abandoned Quad bikes tires screeching against the rock, as it was stuck in the ground. It's also possible to hear a loud groan near Gant Bridge, mostly at nights. This has been attributed to Bigfoot, but has been identified as the fog horn of one of the ships around the bay. Recently it was proved by a user in Youtube, who posted a video about this Myth in GTA San Andreas, that the screaming voices are actually caused by pedestrians, who fall from the mountain due to a spawn glitch in the game which is very similar to the falling lemmings and suicidal photographers.
The Epsilon Program is a fictional religious cult that is referred to in a number of Grand Theft Auto games, but not yet shown. Led by Cris Formage, the cult first emerged as a teaser site for Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, and more recently a twitter account for GTA V.
There are several myths and rumours surrounding hidden appearances and references to Epsilon in GTA San Andreas. See Epsilon Program for the full list.
Big Smoke's Ghost
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After you killed Big Smoke and finished the last mission End of the Line, the Crack Palace will still be accessible, even when a explosion took place there. If you enter the Crack Palace you'll notice there's no signs of destruction inside. There are rumors that, if you enter the Crack Palace, you'll hear Bigsmoke's voice inside or even see his ghost walking in the corridors.
- Beverly Johnson's ghost
This myth may have started when a "ghost graffiti" texture glitch was discovered at Los Santos cemetery. Many people claim that Beverly Johnson's ghost appears in the kitchen/living room of CJ's house in Ganton.
- Phonebooth and an unknown caller in the desert
A popular story about a mystery phone booth in the desert are circulating around the Internet. It is claimed that the phonebooth rings and that if the player approaches it, no one responds to the call. This myth may have its root in a real life phone booth that was located on an isolated road in the Mojave Desert between Las Vegas and Los Angeles. There is however, a Phone booth mod available which places phone boxes in random places around the desert.
- "Ghost Town Figure"
People have posted videos on YouTube claiming that they've seen a ghostly person in an abandoned town's cemetery. Lack of evidence support this claim. The videos were showing heavily modded games on the PC and the "ghost person" is usually a black-textured pedestrian.