Myths in GTA San Andreas
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It does not form part of GTA canon and is not produced or endorsed by Rockstar Games.
- 1 Big Smoke's Ghost
- 2 Bigfoot
- 3 Flying Fish
- 4 Loch Ness Monster
- 5 UFOs
- 6 Rusty Wheelchair
- 7 Ghost Cars
- 8 Beverly Johnson's Ghost
- 9 Girl from the TV/Samara
- 10 Horses in Las Barrancas
- 11 Panopticon Killer/Leatherface/Chainsaw Killer/Piggsy
- 12 Phonebooth In The Desert/Unknown Caller
- 13 Serial Killer
- 14 Screaming Voices
- 15 Epsilon Cult
- 16 Door In The Sky
- 17 Suicidial Pedestrian
- 18 Ghost Person
- 19 References
Big Smoke's Ghost
A video has been posted on Youtube showing what appears to be the ghost of Big Smoke.
Bigfoot is one of the most popular myths associated with the game. However, Rockstar confirmed in an interview that Bigfoot does not exist in the game.
Another myth that has been proved real is that there are flying fish that can be seen through a sniper rifle scope in the mission Amphibious Assault in the San Fierro Bay. Once Carl has swam through all the underwater tunnels, a small island can be seen. If you hop on the island and pick off some of the patrols with a sniper rifle, keep looking around with the scope. Small schools of fish can be seen floating around (you can actually see the individual fish). In foggy weather or in dusk of day, you can see them more clearly. This is mostly a glitch since the floating fish are always above the water and not above land; thus being that the fish were maybe misplaced above water. (found out in ps2 version, most likely in other versions of San Andreas)
Loch Ness MonsterThe legend of the Loch Ness monster was one of the first myths to emerge. It was believed that it appears in the Fisher's Lagoon, one of the few lakes accessible by the player at the very beginning of the game. Like many other myths, this had a strong support back in 2005, but lacks any evidence or in-game references, which would seem to classify this myth as fake. It was later confirmed by a Rockstar spokesman that the 'Nessie' myth is fake.
UFOs are another popular myth of GTA San Andreas. As of this time, a Rockstar spokesman was interveiwed and when they asked him about UFOs he changed the subject. Later in another interveiw, a Rockstar spokesman said: "We did not initially put UFOs in-game. However, there may be some data still in the game we thought to have deleted."
There's an abandoned wheelchair at the end of the wharf in Fisher's Lagoon. It uses the same texture as a waste skip elsewhere in San Andreas. The wheel chair was believed by many to be a reference to the movie The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, as one of the youths in this movie is in a wheel chair, but is in fact more likely a reference to the Rockstar game Manhunt, where it can be seen at the beginning. The following pedestrian dialog can be heard in Palomino Creek:
- Have you seen this disabled person chair moving?
- No, have you?
- Neither have I, bye-bye!
Some people see timings on the front wheels of the chair and assume that something will happen at those times. The "mystery of the chair" was never solved in the standard GTA game, and it is believed the chair doesn't carry any hidden meaning. Although, when two members of GTAForums launched their own competition called GTA Treasurehunt, in which the last mission involved solving the wheelchair mystery. After the lake was filled up with rocks and stones a dead body was found floating in the middle. This is, however, strictly non-canon.
Ghost CarsThe Ghost Cars myth is essentially based upon the misinterpretation of a minor glitch. The myth centered on the abandoned cars, which spawn in the rural areas of San Andreas. If they spawn on a slope, they roll down it as if they're being driven. Some curious players investigated the cars and found that there was nobody in it, thus leading them to believe that the car was driving itself. However, there is nothing particularly strange about the vehicles themselves, as they were simply put there incase the player got stranded in the countryside without a vehicle. There is a mod involving the Glendales in the Back o Beyond. Once activated, players that go near a parked Glendale, the car's lights will turn on, and start attacking players (this mod also applies to the beat-up Sadler near the ghost car area).
Some people have also claimed to have seen a ghostly Vortex shrouded by a "ghostly mist" in the San Fierro bay area. The reason that it moves is because, like the Glendale, it spawns on a slope, and the "mist" is the result of the sand being kicked up as it slides down the beach.
There is also a random car parked in a driveway in Playa del Seville that sometimes rolls down into the road (this depends on the car).
Beverly Johnson's Ghost
This myth started when so-called "ghost graffiti" was discovered at Los Santos cemetery (ie, graffiti which only appears at night, a documented fact).
Many people were claiming that Beverly Johnson's ghost appears in the kitchen/living room of CJ's house in Ganton every midnight. Sometimes the time varied - it had to be Halloween on the computer's clock, or it has to be Friday in the game. Some were saying that the ghost appears in the cemetery under the same, or similar, conditions. However, nobody has claimed that they have seen the ghost, neither are there any pictures or videos. Furthermore, Rockstar have officially denied its existence.
Girl from the TV/Samara
This myth is also the one that did not get much support - in fact, it all has started with a video uploaded onto YouTube in 2006, featuring CJ in his living room looking around when the black girl appears from the television in the corner and disappears a second later. There is no other proof of this girl. It is believed that it is was either a glitch which caused a pedestrian to spawn in the house by mistake and was removed by the game immediately, or it was a mod for the PC version of GTA San Andreas. The dark figure looks very similar to a homeless pedestrian from San Fierro which has a sign that reads "God is playing with us!" on his chest - there was even a video on YouTube comparing both the TV girl and the tramp pictures.
Horses in Las Barrancas
The reference to horses can be found on the Rockstar website, on the Tierra Robada section of the map. When the cursor is positioned over the Las Barrancas icon, the following text can be seen at the bottom of the map:
A quaint desert town steeped in local history, home to preserved Hopi ruins and the terrible setting of the Barrancas Mass Grave. In 1842, the 66th Cavalry, under the command of Colonel Henry Bolt, was stationed in nearby Fort Carson when they answered a call for help from homesteaders under attack from bandits. Riding to the rescue, the whole force fell down a hole. It is said that the sound of a hundred horses can be heard riding through the town at midnight...
Though there is little support/speculation, some people spent some time trying to hear the sound of horses at midnight, but failed to do so. It is unclear which hole was mentioned in the legend and whether it still exists. So far no evidence has been found about the presence of any type of anomaly in Las Barrancas.
Many people have taken the "hole" referenced here to be the mass grave near Las Brujas. This would seem incongruous however, as they are on opposite sides of the river, and the hole in question is both up against a wall and too small for an entire cavalry division to fall into.
Panopticon Killer/Leatherface/Chainsaw Killer/Piggsy
Another strong myth of GTA San Andreas is a Chainsaw killer. He has many names such as Leatherface from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and even Hitler, but to avoid confusion this article will refer to him as The Killer. The whole idea of The Killer started when somebody said that they heard a chainsaw in The Panopticon area. Many have assumed this to be true due to the nature of the area - it looks scary when it is foggy, is full of small sheds and cut down trees and contains a chainsaw pickup. The strange sound can be heard during rainy weather on the first version of the game as a glitch. Over time, the myth has evolved, people started to find out more clues and weird objects. It is said that The Killer lives in the countryside, near the Shady Cabin in the Panopticon, he uses a chainsaw or a firearm to kill his victims, and he appears from behind the player (usually from the house) and kills him almost instantly. Although many people have claimed they have seen the killer, there is still no strong evidence to his existence. There are also many descriptions of the killer, they all differ which makes it difficult to believe that killer's existence is plausible. His existence has also been reported at Mount Chiliad, Fisher's Lagoon, shady cabin, other farms. But there was a video on YouTube posted on August 06,2008 by the user Cfox306 which some players who have watched it think its true. After a little searching Piggsy appears with a chainsaw and kills CJ. There have been sightings of Leatherface in Fisher's Lagoon near the wheelchair or the little house on the shore.
Recently it has been proved that a Pedestrian spawns with a chainsaw in the Mission "The Meat Business" and it is believed to have been used by Rockstar Games outside of that mission.
Phonebooth In The Desert/Unknown Caller
Many people have reported coming across a phonebooth in the desert. The phonebooth rings until the player approaches and answers the phone. When answered, there is no one on another end. Although it was one of the first myths to emerge, it is still unclear whether the myth is real. It is in some ways - there are many phoneboothes in the desert area, especially in towns (not in the desert itself), but none of them are ringing. This myth may have its root in a real life phonebooth that was located on an isolated road in the Mojave Desert between Las Vegas and Los Angeles. There is, however a Phonebooth mod available which places phoneboxes in random places around the desert.
A video uploaded onto YouTube in April 13, 2009 by Cfox306 named "Strange Calls", showing to the public how he received a call while he was investigating the "Ghost Cars" myth. He approached a Phone Booth, and right at 3:00am received a call. He answered at 3:33am and when he answered, strange growlings could be heard.
Until this day no one has ever proved if it was real or fake.
This myth is very similar to the Panopticon Killer. The only difference is that this man lives in the desert and uses a rifle to kill his victims. The majority of people tend to think that he lives in a small house in Tierra Robada, not far from a Cluckin' Bell. Some people have posted videos of him in Fort Carson with a combat shotgun or unarmed. He is believed to be the same man as "Mr. Trenchcoat" (see the UFOs article for more information). He can often be seen on the small road next to the river, just meters away from his house. People have claimed that this person starts randomly shooting and kills other pedestrians - at this moment, no evidence has been found. It is believed that this myth started when someone had a riot cheat enabled without realizing it. The Myth of the serial killer is sometimes linked with the myth of the Las Venturas desert Mass Grave.
This, just like Bigfoot and Leatherface, is another myth that some people have claimed to have encountered while playing the game. The most common hearing of these horror voices is on Mount Chiliad, in a shack halfway up the mountain, used in a mission in the game. It was midnight and stormy when these hearings happened. Some believe that it is just a mod or a hoax. Other people claimed to hear the screaming voices in Panopticon area and in Back o' Beyond. However, it was later discovered that in one case the "screaming voice" was the sound of an abandoned Quadbike's tyres screeching against the rock, as it was stuck in the ground. It's also possible to hear a loud groan near Gant Bridge, mostly at nights. This has been attributed to Bigfoot, but has been identified as the fog horn of one of the ships around the bay.
Please refer to the main Epsilon Program article for more information.
Door In The Sky
The Yellow door secret is explained in The Epsilon Program article.
The door in the sky are actually yellow markers that allow you to walk through and end up inside of a building.
The only two yellow markers that are found in the sky are above Cluckin' Bell in the desert. They are far up in the sky and only reachable with cheats or hacks.
Reports say the two doors are only houses that were meant for Robbery Missions. Rockstar hides these interiors for a reason for nobody to find or reach. In San Andreas, Rockstar hides these marks above San Andreas.
In Flint County, near the Flint Intersection Bridge, a pedestrian is found taking photos and then walks into the water and drowns. Although the pedestrian's activity seems rather strange, it is likely that they are supposed to simply take photos and walk away - the reason they walk into the water may be due to a programming/coding error.
People have posted videos on YouTube claiming that they've seen a ghostly person in an abandoned town's cemetery. Not much evidence is known about the figure, but they apparently appear at midnight when it is foggy. However, the lack of evidence most likely means that it's a glitch of some sort, a mod, or made up.
- Fan-site, covering Epsilon, Leatherface and some other myths 
- Official Epsilon site 
- Czech web-site with many screenshots of UFOs