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[[File:Panto-GTA2.png|thumb|right|A Panto in GTA 2.]]
{{infobox character|
|image = KenRosenberg-GTAVC.jpg
|game_1 = GTA Vice City
|game_2 = GTA San Andreas
|name = Ken Rosenberg
|aka = Rosie
|gender = M
|status = Alive
|dob =
|pob = [[Vice City in GTA III Era|Vice City]]
|dod =
|home = [[Washington Beach]], Vice City<br />[[Caligula's Palace]], [[Las Venturas]]<br />[[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]]
|nationality = United States
|family =
|affiliations = [[VNN|Vice News Network]] <small>(1984 - ?)</small><br />[[Forelli Family]] <small>(? - 1986) </small><br />[[Tommy Vercetti]] <small>(1986 - ?)</small><br />[[Juan Cortez|Colonel Juan Cortez]]<br />[[Avery Carrington]]<br />[[Kent Paul]]<br />[[Carl Johnson]] <small>(1992 - ?)</small><br />[[Maccer]] <small>(1992 - ?)</small><br />[[Leone Family]] <small>(1992)</small><br />[[Sindacco Family]]<br />[[Tony]] <small>(1992)</small> <br />[[Madd Dogg]] <small>(1992 - ?)</small>
|vehicles = White [[Admiral]]
|businesses = [[K. Rosenberg & Co.]] <br /> [[Caligula's Palace]]
|occupation = Lawyer <small>(formerly)</small> <br />Casino Manager <small>(1992)</small>
|voice = [[William Fichtner]]<br />(also credited as Bill Fichtner)
}}
 
{{quote|Tommy, if I have a disagreement with someone, I mail them an angry letter; maybe I pee in their mailbox. I don't start World War III.|Ken talking to Tommy Vercetti}}
'''Ken "Rosie" Rosenberg''' is a character in the [[3D Universe]] who appears as a main character in [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City]] (set in [[1986]]) and as a supporting character in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]] (set in [[1992]]). He is also mentioned in [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories]] (set in [[1984]]). He is a lawyer in GTA Vice City but by GTA San Andreas had been disbarred and began running [[Caligula's Palace]]. He is voiced by [[William Fichtner]], who is also credited as Bill Fitchner, who has starred in, amongst other things, the film Empire Falls.
 
==Character history==
===1980s===
Rosie successfully trained as a lawyer, although he is suspected of cheating on his exams, and established his own business, [[K. Rosenberg & Co.]], establishing the business in [[Vice City in GTA III Era|Vice City]], the city of his birth, with the company's office being inside the [[Hotel Harrison]] in [[Washington Beach]]. By 1984 his company has begun to represent the [[VNN|Vice News Network]] legally, with the company advising people, through a VNN news report, to quote the second amendment of the [[United States|American]] constitution if they are prosecuted for illegally using a firearm, after open gun fights in the [[Downtown Vice City|Downtown]] district (seen during the mission [[Nice Package]]). By [[1986]] he has also established ties with the [[Liberty City in GTA III Era|Liberty City]] based [[Forelli Family]], an Italian-American mob, and has begun to represent them legally.
 
In 1986 he helps [[Sonny Forelli]], the [[Gang Leaders|Don]] of the Family, in establishing his family in Vice City by setting up a drug deal between the [[Vance Crime Family|Vance Crime Family's]] [[Victor Vance|Victor]] and [[Lance Vance]] and Forelli Family representatives [[Tommy Vercetti]], [[Harry]] and [[Lee]]. The deal was ambushed but Rosie and Vercetti escaped, with Rosie hiding in his office, even missing [[Juan Cortez|Colonel Juan Cortez]]' [[The Party|yacht party]], instead sending Vercetti to meet the man who set up the deal and later to [[Back Alley Brawl|find out]] who ambushed the deal. Rosie had, before the ambushed drugs deal, been representing [[Giorgio Forelli]], who was facing charges of fraud, and sent Vercetti to [[Jury Fury|intimidate]] two jurors. He had also begun representing real estate mogul [[Avery Carrington]], who Vercetti later began to work for after causing a [[Riot (GTA VC)|riot]] at the [[Spand Express]] depot.


The '''Panto''' is a car featured in [[Grand Theft Auto 2]] and dropped during development of [[Grand Theft Auto III]]. The nameplate reemerges in [[Grand Theft Auto V]] as a city car manufactured by [[Benefactor]].
Vercetti eventually stops working for Rosie, who begins to represent him and bailing him from [[VCPD in GTA III Era|Vice City Police Department]] police stations across the city, with Rosie later attempting to give Vercetti advice about earning more money and about a planned [[The Job|bank heist]]. He later sides with Vercetti when Sonny Forelli arrives in Vice City and, along with Lance Vance, a former ally of Vercetti, [[Keep Your Friends Close...|attempts to take over Vercetti's business empire]]. The two become close friends, although Rosie's cocaine addiction later drives a wedge between the two.


== Description ==
===1990s===
=== Design ===
[[File:KenRosenberg-GTASA.jpg|left|thumb|Ken Rosenberg in [[1992]].]]
The Panto name first debuted in GTA 2 in the form of a two-door microcar (occasionally confused as a van) akin to the [[Dementia]], but significantly larger. Its appearance alone makes the car generally unappealing, in contrast to larger, better designed cars in the game. The internal name given to the Panto is <code>FIAT</code>, implying the car's name originates from that of a similarly named [[wp:Fiat Punto|Fiat Punto]], but may otherwise be comparable to a 1949-1967 [[wp:Tempo (car)|Tempo Matador Kleinbus]].
Vercetti and Rosie continue to drift apart in the early 1990s, with Rosie eventually enterting rehabilitation at the [[Fort Carson Medical Center]] in [[Fort Carson]], [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|San Andreas]]. His rehabilitation is successful but his friendship with Vercetti is ended, with Vercetti refusing to answer his calls, whilst he is also disbarred from the law. Rosie, however, immediately falls into the clutches of Liberty City's three mafia families, the [[Forelli Family]], [[Leone Family]] and the [[Sindacco Family]], who have him run [[Caligula's Palace]], a mafia run casino in [[Las Venturas]], with all three families having a stake in the casino.


The Panto was planned to reappear as a four-door compact sedan in GTA III, but was cut for unknown reasons. The car, like the Panto in GTA 2, bears some resemblance to a Fiat, specifically, a [[wp:Fiat 128|Fiat 128]]; little else is known about the car. A picture of the car can be found on the "Capital Auto Sale$" teaser website, along with many other beta vehicles [http://www.rockstargames.com/grandtheftauto3/flash/capitalAutos/].
Rosie is informed by [[Salvatore Leone]], Don of the Leone Family, that he wants his money back quickly, whilst he expectantly waits for one family to kill him and blame one of the other families. Rosie begins to hide in his office once again, with only [[Tony]], a talking parrot, for company. [[Kent Paul]] and his client [[Maccer]] later [[Don Peyote|find]] Rosie and introduce him to [[Carl Johnson|Carl "CJ" Johnson]], who begins to moor Rosie out of his situation, including [[Intensive Care|saving]] [[Johnny Sindacco]] on his way to the [[Las Venturas Hospital|hospital]] and later accidentally [[The Meat Business|killing]] him, after Carl induces a heart attack after Johnny remembers their [[Fender Ketchup|previous encounter]].


Released as part of the [[I'm Not a Hipster Update]], the Benefactor Panto is largely based on the [[wp:Smart_Fortwo#Second_generation_.28Build_Series_W451.2C_2007.E2.80.93present.29|2007–present Smart ForTwo]]. It succeeds the [[Weeny]] [[Issi]] as the smallest on-road automobile available in GTA V.
Carl later works for both Rosie and Salvatore to kill more [[The Meat Business|Sindacco]] and Forelli Family mobsters, both in [[Freefall|San Andreas]] and [[Saint Mark's Bistro|Liberty City]]. Eventually, Carl helps Rosie, as well as the by now trapped Paul and Maccer, escape from Salvatore, telling them to lie low. Rosie, who began to use cocaine, also seemingly has flashbacks, once stating "Just like old times, hey Tommy?', in reference to Vercetti. Rosie and Paul later begin to work for [[Madd Dogg]], a rapper who is being managed by Carl. He, Paul, Maccer and Madd Dogg later [[End of the Line|appear]] in the [[Johnson House]] in [[Grove Street]], [[Ganton]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]], to announce Carl and Madd Dogg's first gold record.


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Nothing after the events of GTA San Andreas can be confirmed, although some fans believe that in GTA Liberty City Stories he calls into [[The Electron Zone]] on [[Liberty City Free Radio]], from [[Carcer City]], to complaining about being arrested by the [[Federal Bureau of Investigation|FBI]] for looking up pictures on the Internet (the pictures are implied to be child pornography). The caller is named Ken, although no surname is given, and the caller sounds nothing like Ken Rosenberg.
File:Panto-GTA2-ingame.jpg|GTA 2, in-game with lights on.
File:Panto-GTAIII-front.jpg|A pre-release image of a Panto during development of GTA III.
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=== Performance ===
==Development==
The Panto's performance in GTA 2 mirrors its generally undesirable appearance. The car suffers from an underpowered engine, which results in a poor top speed and below average acceleration. However, helped largely by its speed, the Panto's steering is still acceptable, but its brakes are mediocre, being slightly below average. Even so, the vehicle is not practical when evading gunfire and hostile enemies, such as law enforcement.
Ken Rosenberg is voiced by [[William Fichtner]] (also credited as Bill Fitchner) and is based on David Kleinfeld, played by Sean Penn, from ''Carlito's Way''. The two characters are Jewish defense attorneys, have a similar appearance and both are rendered increasingly paranoid and incoherent due to their cocaine addictions. The offices of both characters are also almost identical.


When crushed, the Panto awards the player [[Grenade]]s.
==Mission appearances==
[[File:KenRosenberg-GTAVC-artwork.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Artwork of Ken Rosenberg]]
;GTA Vice City
*[[In The Beginning (GTA VC)|In The Beginning]]
*[[The Party]] <small>(Boss)</small>
*[[Back Alley Brawl]] <small>(Boss)</small>
*[[Jury Fury]] <small>(Boss)</small>
*[[Riot (GTA VC)|Riot]] <small>(Boss)</small>
*[[Shakedown (GTA VC)|Shakedown]]
*[[No Escape?]]
*[[The Shootist]]
*[[The Driver]]
*[[The Job]]
*[[Keep Your Friends Close...]]


== Locations ==
;GTA San Andreas
;GTA 2
*[[The Introduction]]
* The [[Residential District|Residential]] and [[Industrial District]]s of [[Anywhere City]].
*[[Don Peyote]]
*[[Intensive Care]] <small>(Boss)</small>
*[[The Meat Business]] <small>(Boss)</small>
*[[Freefall]] <small>(Semi-Boss)</small>
*[[Saint Mark's Bistro]]
*[[End of the Line]]


;GTA V
== VCBI record ==
* Available from the protagonists' garages after the I'm Not a Hipster Update is installed.
Ken Rosenberg has a file in the [[Vice City Bureau of Investigation]].<ref>{{cite web | url = http://www.rockstargames.com/vicecity/ | title = Vice City Crime Tree | work = [[Rockstar Games]] }} official GTA Vice City website</ref>:
* Partner at Rosenberg &amp; Associates, legal firm.
* Suspected problem with narcotics and egomania.
* Believed to be developing contacts with Liberty City mob
* Suspected of cheating in law school exams.
* Believed to have employed heavies on numerous occasions to intimidate and corrupt juries.
* Very poor success rate in trials.
* &quot;Blue chip&quot; clients include Georgio Forelli. Cousin of Liberty City crime boss, Sonny.
* Always desperate for money.


== See also ==
==Trivia==
* [[Dementia]], a similarly designed microcar.
* The player can play as Ken in GTA Vice City by inputting cheats.
: PS2: {{key|p_right}}{{key|l1}}{{key|p_up}}{{key|l2}}{{key|l1}}{{key|p_right}}{{key|r1}}{{key|l1}}{{key|cross}}{{key|r1}}
: PC: mysonisalawyer
: Xbox: {{key|x_right}}{{key|lt}}{{key|x_up}}{{key|white}}{{key|lt}}{{key|x_right}}{{key|rt}}{{key|lt}}{{key|a}}{{key|rt}}
*Ken is the only character to appear in the final cutscene in more than one game, appearing in the final cutscene of GTA Vice City ([[Keep Your Friends Close...]]) and GTA San Andreas ([[End of the Line]]).
*Ken is one of only six non-playable living characters to be present for the death of a protagonist. The others being [[Diaz' Hitmen]], [[Ron Jakowski]], and [[Wade Hebert]].  
 
== Reference ==
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Character
Ken Rosenberg
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Appearances GTA Vice City
GTA San Andreas
Full Name Ken Rosenberg
Aliases Rosie
Status

Alive

Gender Gender::Male
Place of Birth Vice City
Nationality American
Home Washington Beach, Vice City
Caligula's Palace, Las Venturas
Los Santos
Main Affiliations Vice News Network (1984 - ?)
Forelli Family (? - 1986)
Tommy Vercetti (1986 - ?)
Colonel Juan Cortez
Avery Carrington
Kent Paul
Carl Johnson (1992 - ?)
Maccer (1992 - ?)
Leone Family (1992)
Sindacco Family
Tony (1992)
Madd Dogg (1992 - ?)
Vehicles White Admiral
Businesses K. Rosenberg & Co.
Caligula's Palace
Occupation Lawyer (formerly)
Casino Manager (1992)
Voiced by William Fichtner
(also credited as Bill Fichtner)
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Tommy, if I have a disagreement with someone, I mail them an angry letter; maybe I pee in their mailbox. I don't start World War III.

Ken talking to Tommy Vercetti

Ken "Rosie" Rosenberg is a character in the 3D Universe who appears as a main character in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (set in 1986) and as a supporting character in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (set in 1992). He is also mentioned in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (set in 1984). He is a lawyer in GTA Vice City but by GTA San Andreas had been disbarred and began running Caligula's Palace. He is voiced by William Fichtner, who is also credited as Bill Fitchner, who has starred in, amongst other things, the film Empire Falls.

Character history

1980s

Rosie successfully trained as a lawyer, although he is suspected of cheating on his exams, and established his own business, K. Rosenberg & Co., establishing the business in Vice City, the city of his birth, with the company's office being inside the Hotel Harrison in Washington Beach. By 1984 his company has begun to represent the Vice News Network legally, with the company advising people, through a VNN news report, to quote the second amendment of the American constitution if they are prosecuted for illegally using a firearm, after open gun fights in the Downtown district (seen during the mission Nice Package). By 1986 he has also established ties with the Liberty City based Forelli Family, an Italian-American mob, and has begun to represent them legally.

In 1986 he helps Sonny Forelli, the Don of the Family, in establishing his family in Vice City by setting up a drug deal between the Vance Crime Family's Victor and Lance Vance and Forelli Family representatives Tommy Vercetti, Harry and Lee. The deal was ambushed but Rosie and Vercetti escaped, with Rosie hiding in his office, even missing Colonel Juan Cortez' yacht party, instead sending Vercetti to meet the man who set up the deal and later to find out who ambushed the deal. Rosie had, before the ambushed drugs deal, been representing Giorgio Forelli, who was facing charges of fraud, and sent Vercetti to intimidate two jurors. He had also begun representing real estate mogul Avery Carrington, who Vercetti later began to work for after causing a riot at the Spand Express depot.

Vercetti eventually stops working for Rosie, who begins to represent him and bailing him from Vice City Police Department police stations across the city, with Rosie later attempting to give Vercetti advice about earning more money and about a planned bank heist. He later sides with Vercetti when Sonny Forelli arrives in Vice City and, along with Lance Vance, a former ally of Vercetti, attempts to take over Vercetti's business empire. The two become close friends, although Rosie's cocaine addiction later drives a wedge between the two.

1990s

Ken Rosenberg in 1992.

Vercetti and Rosie continue to drift apart in the early 1990s, with Rosie eventually enterting rehabilitation at the Fort Carson Medical Center in Fort Carson, San Andreas. His rehabilitation is successful but his friendship with Vercetti is ended, with Vercetti refusing to answer his calls, whilst he is also disbarred from the law. Rosie, however, immediately falls into the clutches of Liberty City's three mafia families, the Forelli Family, Leone Family and the Sindacco Family, who have him run Caligula's Palace, a mafia run casino in Las Venturas, with all three families having a stake in the casino.

Rosie is informed by Salvatore Leone, Don of the Leone Family, that he wants his money back quickly, whilst he expectantly waits for one family to kill him and blame one of the other families. Rosie begins to hide in his office once again, with only Tony, a talking parrot, for company. Kent Paul and his client Maccer later find Rosie and introduce him to Carl "CJ" Johnson, who begins to moor Rosie out of his situation, including saving Johnny Sindacco on his way to the hospital and later accidentally killing him, after Carl induces a heart attack after Johnny remembers their previous encounter.

Carl later works for both Rosie and Salvatore to kill more Sindacco and Forelli Family mobsters, both in San Andreas and Liberty City. Eventually, Carl helps Rosie, as well as the by now trapped Paul and Maccer, escape from Salvatore, telling them to lie low. Rosie, who began to use cocaine, also seemingly has flashbacks, once stating "Just like old times, hey Tommy?', in reference to Vercetti. Rosie and Paul later begin to work for Madd Dogg, a rapper who is being managed by Carl. He, Paul, Maccer and Madd Dogg later appear in the Johnson House in Grove Street, Ganton, Los Santos, to announce Carl and Madd Dogg's first gold record.

Nothing after the events of GTA San Andreas can be confirmed, although some fans believe that in GTA Liberty City Stories he calls into The Electron Zone on Liberty City Free Radio, from Carcer City, to complaining about being arrested by the FBI for looking up pictures on the Internet (the pictures are implied to be child pornography). The caller is named Ken, although no surname is given, and the caller sounds nothing like Ken Rosenberg.

Development

Ken Rosenberg is voiced by William Fichtner (also credited as Bill Fitchner) and is based on David Kleinfeld, played by Sean Penn, from Carlito's Way. The two characters are Jewish defense attorneys, have a similar appearance and both are rendered increasingly paranoid and incoherent due to their cocaine addictions. The offices of both characters are also almost identical.

Mission appearances

Artwork of Ken Rosenberg
GTA Vice City
GTA San Andreas

VCBI record

Ken Rosenberg has a file in the Vice City Bureau of Investigation.[1]:

  • Partner at Rosenberg & Associates, legal firm.
  • Suspected problem with narcotics and egomania.
  • Believed to be developing contacts with Liberty City mob
  • Suspected of cheating in law school exams.
  • Believed to have employed heavies on numerous occasions to intimidate and corrupt juries.
  • Very poor success rate in trials.
  • "Blue chip" clients include Georgio Forelli. Cousin of Liberty City crime boss, Sonny.
  • Always desperate for money.

Trivia

  • The player can play as Ken in GTA Vice City by inputting cheats.
PS2: D-Pad RightL1D-Pad UpL2L1D-Pad RightR1L1CrossR1
PC: mysonisalawyer
Xbox: D-Pad RightLeft TriggerD-Pad UpWhiteLeft TriggerD-Pad RightRight TriggerLeft TriggerARight Trigger

Reference

  1. Vice City Crime Tree. Rockstar Games. official GTA Vice City website