Talk:Content Changes

Is this article only for things that we know about? like the police cars, bus shelters etc. Or is it just for anything that doesn't appear in the final game? I was just wondering, because I've looked through GTA III's '.gxt' files and found some pretty interesting lines of text, which don't appear in the final version of the game - I don't know if they would be worth adding or not... Hardrock182 03:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC).

This article is about anything that was'nt added in the final version of a GTA game and it would be usefull if you put those lines in the article.-User:BloodyGTA

Okay, thanks - I'll add the info just now. - Hardrock182 03:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

But please add references. If the reference is within the file, name the file or its entry in the file. Video links and photo links are welcomed.--spaceeinstein 05:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I heard somewhere that if you hex edit the data files of GTA 4 for PC, you can use the fingerless gloves. Carlosvc92

AT-400 In GTA 4

hey guys somewhere i read that the AT-400 does appear in GTA IV as the jet at francais int. airport, i don't have GTA 4 anymore for PC so i can't check the files but it could be. User:Grandtheftautodude Monday 09 November 2009 17:42

No, it doesn't appear in the game. The jets that appear in the airport are objects, not vehicles.--Spaceeinstein 23:10, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

GTA SA

GTA 3 was more changed than GTA SA, because of how much different Liberty City was going to be, and deleted missions

Yes, but the 9/11 attack change a lot of things in GTA III. GTAJJJ 19:46, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Spliting

I suggest this page (which is overloaded with information) being split into smaller pages, such as "Beta Characters", "Beta Map", etc. This page also shares the exact same information than "Beta Weapons", "Beta Vehicles" and "Deleted Missions".--Loadingue 15:23, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

We could also remove the "vehicle", "missions" section and stuffs only the beta feature remain. I mean, there's already a page of betas.--Blaff 60 13:54, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Beta GTA IV Map

Where can we find the beta map of Liberty City-GTA IV in the game ?

On a blue telephone directory in Niko's safehouse in Bohan. You should easily spot it. The picture in the article is extracted from the game's files though. Don't forget to sign your post with four tildes too.--Loadingue 11:15, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thank's i'll check it GTAJJJ 12:37, July 8, 2010 (UTC) GTAJJJ

Beta map and district

How have you discover beta district in Liberty City IV era ? And where can we find the alpha map of Chinatown Wars ? (sorry for my english, i'm french) GTAJJJ 18:29, July 8, 2010 (UTC) GTAJJJ

GTA Vice City

It says that tommy was going to wear a blue hawaiian shirt that's not a beta that got changed, tommy does and has always worn a blue hawaiian shirt.Andrew nicholson 16:41, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

In the beta, the hawaiian shirt was dark blue, not in the final version where it's light blue.GTAJJJ 16:59, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Bikes in GTA3

were bikes a beta release in Grand Theft Auto 3?

if so why were they removed? or were they removed because of the 9/11 attacks? -- PK2PK2 00:44, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, as far as we know, bikes were likely not in the GTA III beta. It's possible they might have thought of the idea, but then decided to wait to include them in the next game, as I doubt 9/11 would have anything to do with the removal of motorcycles or bikes.Claude94 15:00, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Bikes weren't include in the game because R* didn't know how programing bike handling, they learn it after the realase of the game ( i read it in an interview) GTAJJJ 13:22, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Chinatown Wars "Beta Video"

Even though I deleted this, I figure someone put this up as spam. If you did, I kindly ask you, please stop spamming. But if the person put it up as serious material, the video is gameplay footage of Driver 2, NOT Chinatown Wars. 88FanNASCAR August 17, 2010, 14:00 (UTC)

Page renaming

Do you think "prerelease" is more accurate than "beta release"?--spaceeinstein 17:36, 19 October 2010 (BST)

They both mean pretty much the same thing. Sgt. S.S. 16:17, 25 October 2010 (BST)

Not really. Beta refers to when the developers have created a working product that fulfills their main wishes but isn't ready for public release. Changes that happen between Beta and the retail version are usually pretty minor, e.g. the removal of Darkel and Niko's fingerless gloves. Some of the changes here, for example the original map for III with the aiport in Staunton, would have happened way before the Beta stage. However, I don't think "Prerelease" on its own is a very good title; how about "Prerelease Changes", "Prerelease Features" or "Changes Made Before Final Release"? Alright, that last one wasn't very good. --Bluesboyjr 18:16, 25 October 2010 (BST)

I agree this is a bit ambiguous. Beta does not accurately reflect features or content which was created but removed before release. A beta can be early in the development cycle, or late with only minor changes - but a beta release is always an actual release or prototype (whether internal, private or public). These vary from just-before-release tweaks to early plans and mockups. "Prerelease Content" would be the most accurate, but maybe a bit long? Perhaps "Removed Content", or we just go with the long name and rely on redirects? Gboyers 20:27, 25 October 2010 (BST)

I support renaming to "prerelease changes". "Prerelease content" won't cover stuff that were drawn on paper before it was implemented in the game (like 8-Ball's name). "Removed content" won't cover the stuff that wasn't removed in the final version but just hidden and can still be accessed with simple techniques (like the Brickade).--spaceeinstein 20:35, 25 October 2010 (BST)

Well "Prerelease Content" covers anything written for, or used in, any pre-release version of the game - whether an unused character or removed feature. "Changes" implies that something was made and working, but then later removed/disabled, which would exclude any designed-but-unused content. Perhaps we should agree the point of this page before we try and decide on a name? Gboyers 20:43, 25 October 2010 (BST)

"Prerelease Content" sounds okay, but maybe we should keep "Beta Releases" as a redirect? Sgt. S.S. 21:08, 25 October 2010 (BST)

Of course all redirects will work, and this page will be redirected. I just meant people could casually link to Beta instead of having to type the full title every time. Gboyers 21:45, 25 October 2010 (BST)

Prelease makes it sound like a trailer or something like that, beta releases sound better in my opinion. Jackass2010 08:28, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps, but "beta releases" makes it sound like an official beta version that was released. These things could be planned features that were never made, or things seen in trailers that changed before final release. Perhaps "beta content" or "unused content" would be best? Gboyers 17:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I support the name "Cut Content" so that pages with "Beta *" can be changed to "Cut *".--spaceeinstein 20:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

K9 dog in IV

Im just wondering is there any proof of the K9 dog for the LCPD?