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:Remember that this isn't a vote. A decision should be made based on what is best for this wiki and its community, not the personal opinions of four people in this discussion. I would like to see someone answer Gboyers' earlier question about whether Americans understand "mobile phone". I know that everyone in Australia ''understands'' cell phone (because of American media), but if someone was to say something about their "cell phone", that would be unusual. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 08:22, 8 August 2011 (BST)
 
:Remember that this isn't a vote. A decision should be made based on what is best for this wiki and its community, not the personal opinions of four people in this discussion. I would like to see someone answer Gboyers' earlier question about whether Americans understand "mobile phone". I know that everyone in Australia ''understands'' cell phone (because of American media), but if someone was to say something about their "cell phone", that would be unusual. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 08:22, 8 August 2011 (BST)
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::Yes sorry I didn't make my point clear - four staff members is not "everybody", so I'd like to see more people contribute to this discussion (and answer my question). In the meantime, there's no ''harm'' in keeping this name, as we have [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Mobile_Phone&hidelinks=1 several redirects] in place anyway. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 08:25, 8 August 2011 (BST)

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How can we be certain that Niko starts off with a BitterSweet phone? The phones screen says badger, not bittersweet, and the phone looks completely different. It would also appear that the bittersweet is an advanced smartphone, but Nikos first phone is very basic, it was Romans old phone, and he isn't exactly rich. Hbriz 07:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree. --spaceeinstein 07:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

'Pickup' tag

DT-boy, I've already explained why the phone does not meet the Wiki's definition of "pickups" (see the Pickups article). I'm undoing that edit again. If a mod could weigh in on this, I'd appreciate it. Samadriel 13:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Name

With the article renamed, isn't the current name going to cause confusion on what constitutes a "phone"? What about public phones? - ZS 07:27, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I reckon that this article's name should be changed to "Mobile Phone" or "Cell Phone" as it is more specific and accurate of a name for this article, as "Phone" can refer to almost any type of phone like telephone, home phone, public telephone etc.--MrLanceVanceDance 08:54, 7 August 2011 (BST)

Agreed, I shall move it to Mobile Phone since that is the international term (Cell is just US/Canada), unless the game specifically calls it a cellphone? gboyers talk 11:55, 7 August 2011 (BST)

The games do call it cell phone as they should since the games are set in the US.--spaceeinstein 14:41, 7 August 2011 (BST)
That's fine if they do - but where do they call it that? The only thing I could think of were adverts. gboyers talk 16:13, 7 August 2011 (BST)
Mission prompts that tell you to get and use the cell phone.--spaceeinstein 22:05, 7 August 2011 (BST)
Fair enough, let's move it to Cell Phone then? gboyers talk 00:57, 8 August 2011 (BST)

I don't think that the article's name should be moved to "Cell Phone". Cell Phone is only used by the Americans while Mobile Phone is the universal term for this commnunication device. Also, we should not bias towards American English or American Terms, as the US is not the only place where GTA is played. If that was the case in which GTA was only played in America, we could use "Cell Phone" as the name but that isn't the case so we shouldn't.--MrLanceVanceDance 07:35, 8 August 2011 (BST)

That was my reason for moving it to Mobile Phone, but if the game specifically calls it a "cell phone" then we probably ought to stick to that. Out of interest though - do Americans understand the term "Mobile Phone" okay? Because the term "cell" is NEVER used in the UK, and most people would not understand it. If "mobile phone" is more universal, then that could again a better option than "cell". gboyers talk 07:42, 8 August 2011 (BST)
MrLVD, the policy says that there is no preference for spellings, etc, UNLESS the game uses a specific version, in which case, that should be used. So if the game calls it a cell phone, then that may be the more appropriate title. If not, then I agree that mobile phone is a more internationally accepted term. From memory, I'm pretty sure that the mission prompts just say use your phone or Use Niko's phone, but don't trust me on that. JFletcherTalk (formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever) 07:48, 8 August 2011 (BST)

The problem is that in the GTA III Era, "Cell Phone" is used but in the GTA IV Era, "Mobile Phone" or "Phone" is used. I am not sure what the public thinks is the best name for the article but I reckon "Mobile Phone" should be used as it is more recent.--MrLanceVanceDance 08:00, 8 August 2011 (BST)

Oh yeah, I entirely forgot about the GTA III Era phone, which you're right, does use cell phone. Remember that the redirect exists, so article naming isn't going to hinder anyone's ability to find the article. Perhaps more recent and more international are good arguments? JFletcherTalk (formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever) 08:04, 8 August 2011 (BST)

The two statements (More Recent and "More International") are good arguments and the major factors in this discussion. Since everybody except for Spaceeinstein wants the article name to stay as "Mobile Phone", I reckon the name should stand as it is. Any thoughts?--MrLanceVanceDance 08:12, 8 August 2011 (BST)

Since redirects all work, there's no rush to make a decision, so we'll leave as-is, to allow anyone to contribute to this discussion. If at any point there's enough justification/evidence for a move, we can move et easily enough. gboyers talk 08:18, 8 August 2011 (BST)

Agreed.--MrLanceVanceDance 08:20, 8 August 2011 (BST)

Remember that this isn't a vote. A decision should be made based on what is best for this wiki and its community, not the personal opinions of four people in this discussion. I would like to see someone answer Gboyers' earlier question about whether Americans understand "mobile phone". I know that everyone in Australia understands cell phone (because of American media), but if someone was to say something about their "cell phone", that would be unusual. JFletcherTalk (formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever) 08:22, 8 August 2011 (BST)
Yes sorry I didn't make my point clear - four staff members is not "everybody", so I'd like to see more people contribute to this discussion (and answer my question). In the meantime, there's no harm in keeping this name, as we have several redirects in place anyway. gboyers talk 08:25, 8 August 2011 (BST)