Talk:Sabre

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Design In GTA IV

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Just to clear up that the Sabre isn't based on a Cutlass, if you look at the side profile, you can see the lines on the sides look those of an 80s Monte Carlo SS (the back of the greenhouse leans forward much more though and the lines mimic the ones on the Sabre GT more) while the Cutlass has more formal lines. The rear is closer to the Monte Carlo in general design and also with the little spoiler. I see what Crwpitman said about the taillights being like a Buick Century but I think that is a coincidence (especially since the ones on the Sabre are taller (kinda like the Monte Carlo), it's like saying the taillights from the FIB Buffalo are from an Opel Vectra, sure they look similar but, not enough (does that make any sense?). It's just a result of a improvised design. And the Sabre being manufactured by Declasse even further suggests it is a Monte Carlo. --Thescarydude 16:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

My only suggestion that it bears resemblance to the Cutlass is that it's an evolution to the Sabre, which was based off the Cutlass. The Cutlass and Monte Carlo shared very similar rooflines at that period in time. I personally think it looks a bit more Cutlass like, as the 3/4 windows are narrower, like the Cutlass. But there is a lot of Monte Carlo in the design, specifically the monochromatic treatment and the longer trunk. But the overall design seems to have a Buick/Olds look to it, IMO, and I don't think the Century taillights are completely random (there was a Century notchback coupe of that period, but the it's flat sided without the kick-up around the rear wheels). Plus there's the Buick Century Turbo Coupe, which (although a fastback) shares a lot of similar design features, such as the lack of chrome, air dam and decklid spoiler. Besides - what's wrong with saying it isn't 100% Monte Carlo?

Plus I think it's pretty obvious that GTA brands don't exactly follow their real life counterparts. Just look at the Vapid brand. Or how the minivan is one brand, but the identical cab is in another. Crwpitman 18:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)crwpitman

That makes sense. But a couple weeks ago I realized that the sides of the Sabre GT had less of a resemblance to a 1970 Cutlass than I originally thought Since the sides of the Stallion has creases like the '70 Cutlass. So I thought Chevelle since it is made by Declasse (I no the brands don't exactly follow their counterparts, but there are always subtle influences), the 1968 and '69 Chevelle have smoother lines on the sides like the GT. So I think them being by Declasse suggests they have some Chevrolet influence. Anyways I think the smaller windows on the regular Sabre are just a result of the lean of the C-pillar, if you did that (just the lean) it with the Cutlass wouldn't look as aggressive as the Monte Carlo SS. Just for fun here's a cheap Photoshop edit :D.

Oh and about the Minivan, the rebadging happens in real-life (Ex. Dodge Caravan and Chrysler Voyager)--Thescarydude 19:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)