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== Question about mission infoboxes ==
{{infobox mission
|name = Wrong Side of the Tracks
|image = WrongSideoftheTracks-GTASA.jpg
|size = 400x400px
|caption = [[Carl Johnson]] and [[Big Smoke]] talking about the meeting between the [[Los Santos Vagos]] and the [[San Fierro Rifa]] at [[Unity Station]].
|game = SA
|for = [[Big Smoke]]
|location = [[Idlewood]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]]
|target = [[Los Santos Vagos]] gangsters
|reward = Respect
|unlocks = [[Just Business]]
|unlockedby = [[Running Dog]]
}}
{{also|See also [[Wong Side of the Tracks]]- a side-mission in [[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]]}}
'''Wrong Side of the Tracks''' is a mission in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]] given to [[protagonist]] [[Carl Johnson|Carl "CJ" Johnson]] by secondary antagonist and high-ranking Grove Street Families member [[Big Smoke|Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris]], under inspiration from the primarily antagonistic C.R.A.S.H. team, from his [[Big Smoke's House|house]] in [[Idlewood]], [[Los Santos in GTA III Era|Los Santos]].


I know your talk page says that you aren't taking part in discussions, but I feel that I should ask you this question since I see  you online more than any of the members of staff.
==Mission==
Carl visits Smoke after some time, where again, C.R.A.S.H. officers [[Frank Tenpenny]] and [[Eddie Pulaski]] are seen leaving the house, this time from the garage, where Smoke is also seen. Carl has a brief argument with the two and then turns to Smoke, who asks him for help to drive him to [[Unity Station]].


I've been going around and doing some maintenance on some of the mission pages (mostly fixing the YouTube video links), but I have been wondering, should vehicle mission/odd-job pages (such as [[Patriot Playground]]) have mission infoboxes? If so, should a "Time limit" tag be added to the mission infobox template to show the time limit if applicable? Let me know. Thanks! [[User:Alleypuppy|Alleypuppy]] ([[User talk:Alleypuppy|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Alleypuppy|edits]]) 18:48, 15 December 2013 (GMT)
Once there, Carl and Smoke proceed, on the latter's instructions, to witness a meeting between the [[Los Santos Vagos]] and the [[San Fierro Rifa]]. Feeling cheated as the meeting gets over, Smoke asks Carl to help him chase and cap down the Vagos, which they do with the help of a Sanchez parked nearby. Finally, they manage to kill the Vagos, and Carl drives Smoke back to Idlewood, wherein, on the way back, they have a conversation about the drug problem in the city.


== Re:Re:Question about mission infoboxes ==
==Script==
'''(''Carl is outside Smoke's house. Tenpenny and Pulaski come out of Smoke's garage with Smoke still inside it as they greet Carl.'')'''
             
'''Tenpenny''': Hey, Carl, keeping busy, I hope.
                                                       
'''CJ''': You know me, Officer Tenpenny.
                                                       
'''Tenpenny''': Yeah, I know you, Carl. I know everything about you.
                                           
'''CJ''':  Don't touch me. (''murmurs'') Get you pig hands off me...
                                                         
'''Tenpenny''': That's right, Carl, I got my eye on you.   
                                           
'''CJ''': And? Like I give a fuck.                           
                       
'''Pulaski''': We're watching you, Carl! (''throws his cigarette at Carl.'')
                                 
'''CJ''': Mother-fucker!


{{Reply|Alleypuppy|Re:Question about mission infoboxes}}
'''(''Tenpenny and Pulaski leave. Smoke comes out of his garage.'')'''
Thanks for your reply! I feel that those would be great additions to the mission infobox. Special vehicles is something that I have not thought about, but could be very useful. I see that [[User:gboyers]] has already updated the infobox with these suggestions (Thanks!). I'll let you know if I have any more suggestions. [[User:Alleypuppy|Alleypuppy]] ([[User talk:Alleypuppy|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Alleypuppy|edits]]) 05:27, 16 December 2013 (GMT)


== Renaming an Image ==
'''Big Smoke''': What was that all about, baby?
                       
'''CJ''': You tell me.
                       
'''Big Smoke''': Aw hell, man, they got their nose in everything. Can't shit without Tenpenny taking an interest. The hell with him.
                       
'''CJ''': Yeah, I guess. What's really up?
                       
'''Big Smoke''': Hey, thinking of taking a little ride. Three deep mentioned a little something that might put us deeper in the game.
                       
'''CJ''': A'ight, I'm down. (''they get in the car'') Where to, Smoke?


Hello A-Dust,
'''Big Smoke''': Unity Station!
                       
'''(''Carl and Smoke pull up at Unity Station.'')'''


Sorry to keep bothering you on here, but I have a question. Is it possible for you to rename an image? I uploaded an image and accidentally pressed the Enter key before I had the change to name if properly. The file is named '''Police_Buffalo_Rear.jpg'''. I would like for it to be named '''PoliceBuffalo-GTAV-Rear.jpg'''.
'''CJ''': What we looking for, Smoke?


Thanks a lot! [[User:Alleypuppy|Alleypuppy]] ([[User talk:Alleypuppy|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Alleypuppy|edits]]) 05:03, 6 January 2014 (GMT)
'''Big Smoke''': Some Vagos cats meeting some San Fierro Rifa, cutting some kind of deal.
                       
'''CJ''': San Fierro? I thought Northern Mexicans don't mix with Los Santos eses.
                       
'''Big Smoke''': Shit, you got me.


== Re: GTA Online ==
'''CJ''': That look like them!


{{reply|IanPhoenix|GTA Online}}
'''Big Smoke''': Mother-fuckers clocked us!
I'll gladly do what I can. It's kinda tough with everything geared towards GTA V, it's not always easy to add mention to GTA Online. New things like the content updates are easier because they're tailored towards GTA Online first. '''[[User:IanPhoenix|Ian Phoenix]]<sup>''[[User talk:IanPhoenix|talk]]''</sup>''' 22:02, 13 April 2014 (BST)


== Categories ==
'''(''Four Vagos gang members jump on top of a train leaving the station.'')'''


Is there any way you can somehow count your adding categories to all the pictures as a minor edit? You're taking up pages and pages of the Recent Edits with this nonsense and if it continues there's going to be hundreds of pages to scroll through to find any of the edits that are more important. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] ([[User talk:Grand Theft AJ|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Grand Theft AJ|edits]]) 13:30, 10 May 2014 (BST)
'''Big Smoke''': We got to get these fools! (''they start chasing the Vagos on a Sanchez'') C'mon CJ, we gotta ice these fools. Roll up on them, CJ, so I can get a shot! (''if they proceed past the railway crossing in Jefferson'') Aww, look, the train! (''after crossing through the tunnel, if needed'') Take that path on the right!


==Scripts==
'''(''Smoke manages to kill the Vagos. They now head back to his house.'')'''
Hi. I see you are also working on scripts and I need some input on something. I am working an unused dialogue page and was wondering if they should have a place in their respective pages? Either this or one page for all of it but that would be a very long page. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 01:56, 7 October 2014 (BST)


:I have just went through the recent edits and seen you want to make sub-categories for scripts. Good idea but I think the categories should be named something different such as "Scripts for GTA San Andreas" or something like that. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 05:28, 17 April 2015 (BST)
'''CJ''': Was it always like this?


::Looks good. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 03:39, 20 April 2015 (BST)
'''Big Smoke''': Was what always like this?


== Changing GrandTheftWiki Username ==
'''CJ''': Always fucked up around here? Or is it because of the drugs?


Hi A-Dust,
'''Big Smoke''': Ae, ae, don't ask a wise man, friend, ask a fool!


This isn't exactly a GTA-related question, but is it possible for me to change my username on this site? I couldn't find anything about it in the help files. I'd prefer not to make a new account as I'd like to preserve my contribution history.
'''CJ''': That's what I was doing.
I asked this question on [[User:gboyers|gboyers]]'s page a little while back, but it seems he hasn't been active recently.


Thank you! [[User:Alleypuppy|Alleypuppy]] ([[User talk:Alleypuppy|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Alleypuppy|edits]]) 21:39, 3 May 2015 (BST)
'''Big Smoke''': Well, if you making this thing personal, I ain't sticking on it no more.


== Re:ReChanging GrandTheftWiki Username ==
'''(''Carl and Smoke are outside Smoke's house.'')'''


{{Reply|Alleypuppy|Re:Changing GrandTheftWiki Username}}
'''Big Smoke''': Hey, you better clear out, CJ. I don't want those C.R.A.S.H. fools trying to pull you into some shit!
Awesome, thank you! I'd like my new username to be '''thehambone'''. [[User:Alleypuppy|Alleypuppy]] ([[User talk:Alleypuppy|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Alleypuppy|edits]]) 02:03, 4 May 2015 (BST)
                       
'''CJ''': Alright, homie. You be careful with those cats. I'm gonna see you later.
                       
==Reward==
The reward for this mission is respect, and the mission [[Just Business]] is unlocked.
 
== Walkthrough Tip ==
 
Make your way to Unity Station with Smoke. When you get there, some Los Santos Vagos members will hop on the top of the train as it rides off. Quickly, jump on the [[Sanchez]] provided for you. Chase the train and ride up next to it and Smoke will start to shoot the gang members. Make sure all the gang members are killed before they reach the Frederick Bridge. After they are all dead, drive Smoke back to Los Santos and the mission will be complete.
 
== Trivia ==
* In the beta, the mission was supposedly to grab a package after the Los Santos Vagos are killed but it was cut before release. The same way, the beat had dialogue about Carl questioning Smoke over the package, which would have almost exposed his betrayal.
* Oddly, in the mission [[Local Liquor Store]], Carl complains about [[Catalina]] shooting so close to his ear, but he doesn't do it to Smoke, presumably as he is closer to Smoke and the fact that Smoke generally aims the gun higher, limiting the noise.
* The name of the mission may be based on the phrase "[http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/the+wrong+side+of+the+tracks the wrong side of the tracks]", meaning a poor area of a city.
* If the player abandons the Sanchez after killing the Vagos, it will still appear in the mission's final cutscene.
* This mission is infamous among gamers for being extremely difficult. Smoke's mission failure line "All we had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!" has become a bit of an Internet meme as a result. In the popular video game ''Minecraft'' exists a splash screen which says "Follow the train, CJ!".
 
==Gallery==
<gallery width="auto" perrow="2" style="font-size:95%; padding:0;" widths="250">
File:WrongSideoftheTracks-GTASA3.png|The [[Los Santos Vagos]] attempt to escape by riding on top of the [[Brown Streak]] train, with [[Carl Johnson]] and [[Big Smoke]] running for a vehicle to chase them with.
File:WrongSideoftheTracks-GTASA2.jpg|[[Carl Johnson]] using a [[Sanchez]] to chase the [[Los Santos Vagos]] gangsters on the [[Brown Streak]] train, whilst [[Big Smoke]] attempts to kill them
</gallery>
 
== See also ==
*[[Wong Side of the Tracks]]- a side-mission in [[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]] with a similar name
 
==Video walkthrough==
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Mission
Wrong Side of the Tracks
Carl Johnson and Big Smoke talking about the meeting between the Los Santos Vagos and the San Fierro Rifa at Unity Station.
Carl Johnson and Big Smoke talking about the meeting between the Los Santos Vagos and the San Fierro Rifa at Unity Station.

Carl Johnson and Big Smoke talking about the meeting between the Los Santos Vagos and the San Fierro Rifa at Unity Station.
Game GTA San Andreas
For Big Smoke
Target Los Santos Vagos gangsters
Location Idlewood, Los Santos
Reward Respect
Unlocks Just Business
Unlocked by Running Dog
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See also Wong Side of the Tracks- a side-mission in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

Wrong Side of the Tracks is a mission in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas given to protagonist Carl "CJ" Johnson by secondary antagonist and high-ranking Grove Street Families member Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris, under inspiration from the primarily antagonistic C.R.A.S.H. team, from his house in Idlewood, Los Santos.

Mission

Carl visits Smoke after some time, where again, C.R.A.S.H. officers Frank Tenpenny and Eddie Pulaski are seen leaving the house, this time from the garage, where Smoke is also seen. Carl has a brief argument with the two and then turns to Smoke, who asks him for help to drive him to Unity Station.

Once there, Carl and Smoke proceed, on the latter's instructions, to witness a meeting between the Los Santos Vagos and the San Fierro Rifa. Feeling cheated as the meeting gets over, Smoke asks Carl to help him chase and cap down the Vagos, which they do with the help of a Sanchez parked nearby. Finally, they manage to kill the Vagos, and Carl drives Smoke back to Idlewood, wherein, on the way back, they have a conversation about the drug problem in the city.

Script

(Carl is outside Smoke's house. Tenpenny and Pulaski come out of Smoke's garage with Smoke still inside it as they greet Carl.)

Tenpenny: Hey, Carl, keeping busy, I hope.

CJ: You know me, Officer Tenpenny.

Tenpenny: Yeah, I know you, Carl. I know everything about you.

CJ: Don't touch me. (murmurs) Get you pig hands off me...

Tenpenny: That's right, Carl, I got my eye on you.

CJ: And? Like I give a fuck.

Pulaski: We're watching you, Carl! (throws his cigarette at Carl.)

CJ: Mother-fucker!

(Tenpenny and Pulaski leave. Smoke comes out of his garage.)

Big Smoke: What was that all about, baby?

CJ: You tell me.

Big Smoke: Aw hell, man, they got their nose in everything. Can't shit without Tenpenny taking an interest. The hell with him.

CJ: Yeah, I guess. What's really up?

Big Smoke: Hey, thinking of taking a little ride. Three deep mentioned a little something that might put us deeper in the game.

CJ: A'ight, I'm down. (they get in the car) Where to, Smoke?

Big Smoke: Unity Station!

(Carl and Smoke pull up at Unity Station.)

CJ: What we looking for, Smoke?

Big Smoke: Some Vagos cats meeting some San Fierro Rifa, cutting some kind of deal.

CJ: San Fierro? I thought Northern Mexicans don't mix with Los Santos eses.

Big Smoke: Shit, you got me.

CJ: That look like them!

Big Smoke: Mother-fuckers clocked us!

(Four Vagos gang members jump on top of a train leaving the station.)

Big Smoke: We got to get these fools! (they start chasing the Vagos on a Sanchez) C'mon CJ, we gotta ice these fools. Roll up on them, CJ, so I can get a shot! (if they proceed past the railway crossing in Jefferson) Aww, look, the train! (after crossing through the tunnel, if needed) Take that path on the right!

(Smoke manages to kill the Vagos. They now head back to his house.)

CJ: Was it always like this?

Big Smoke: Was what always like this?

CJ: Always fucked up around here? Or is it because of the drugs?

Big Smoke: Ae, ae, don't ask a wise man, friend, ask a fool!

CJ: That's what I was doing.

Big Smoke: Well, if you making this thing personal, I ain't sticking on it no more.

(Carl and Smoke are outside Smoke's house.)

Big Smoke: Hey, you better clear out, CJ. I don't want those C.R.A.S.H. fools trying to pull you into some shit!

CJ: Alright, homie. You be careful with those cats. I'm gonna see you later.

Reward

The reward for this mission is respect, and the mission Just Business is unlocked.

Walkthrough Tip

Make your way to Unity Station with Smoke. When you get there, some Los Santos Vagos members will hop on the top of the train as it rides off. Quickly, jump on the Sanchez provided for you. Chase the train and ride up next to it and Smoke will start to shoot the gang members. Make sure all the gang members are killed before they reach the Frederick Bridge. After they are all dead, drive Smoke back to Los Santos and the mission will be complete.

Trivia

  • In the beta, the mission was supposedly to grab a package after the Los Santos Vagos are killed but it was cut before release. The same way, the beat had dialogue about Carl questioning Smoke over the package, which would have almost exposed his betrayal.
  • Oddly, in the mission Local Liquor Store, Carl complains about Catalina shooting so close to his ear, but he doesn't do it to Smoke, presumably as he is closer to Smoke and the fact that Smoke generally aims the gun higher, limiting the noise.
  • The name of the mission may be based on the phrase "the wrong side of the tracks", meaning a poor area of a city.
  • If the player abandons the Sanchez after killing the Vagos, it will still appear in the mission's final cutscene.
  • This mission is infamous among gamers for being extremely difficult. Smoke's mission failure line "All we had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!" has become a bit of an Internet meme as a result. In the popular video game Minecraft exists a splash screen which says "Follow the train, CJ!".

Gallery

See also

Video walkthrough

PC Version - GTASeriesVideos



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