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The point of an edit summary is to quickly explain what you did in that edit (eg removed spam, fixed a link) so that you don't have to go and check the diff log to see exactly what you did. Making you go to another page to figure out wtf you mean defeats the object of that. It is also helpful if you want to explain why you did something (removed link ''because'' on wrong page or spam etc). Prize for the first person to fully translate the acronyms I used above. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[Sysop|Admin]]) [[User talk:Xenon|talk]] 02:00, 29 April 2007 (BST)
The point of an edit summary is to quickly explain what you did in that edit (eg removed spam, fixed a link) so that you don't have to go and check the diff log to see exactly what you did. Making you go to another page to figure out wtf you mean defeats the object of that. It is also helpful if you want to explain why you did something (removed link ''because'' on wrong page or spam etc). Prize for the first person to fully translate the acronyms I used above. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[Sysop|Admin]]) [[User talk:Xenon|talk]] 02:00, 29 April 2007 (BST)
:There are some of those acronyms for which I immediately recognizes... CiC would be Commander-in-Chief, I believe. CO is Commanding Officer. I don't know what other acroynms are, though some seems to be familiar to me but what it stands for, I forgot. IFF seems to be vaguely closer to that of EFF, which is Electronic Frontier Foundation or something similar. Hence, I sucks at remembering lot of stuff. :P
:Anyway, yeah, I see your point now. I just am trying to make sure that my edit summary doesn't get too long. To illustrate this dilemma I am facing, I have already gotten complaints, both on-line and in real life, that my usual writings are too long... even my college professors expressed their concerns about my writings... my essays there were unexpectedly too long for them when they have other essays to review and grade.... I don't recall how many pages it was but it was certainly too many pages in my case. :/ --[[User:Chief of Staff|Legion]] 02:17, 29 April 2007 (BST)

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Hello

Hi Chief of Staff, welcome to Grand Theft Wiki, about your site working with this site, you would have to talk to Xenon about that, who owns the site, if you have any questions about this site just ask me, user:xenon, or user:47, thanks. George 17:33, 27 April 2007 (BST)

Actually, I don't technically "own" the site I hails from. My guess is that, given the fact it's hosted on wikia.com, the owner would be Wikimedia Foundation, the very same one that owns and operates Wikipedia, Wiktionary, et cetera. So, I was only offering the "gesture" but that I don't have authorization to discuss those matters on their behalf. For that matters, I think it's up to our administrators, which would be Thai420, for English version anyway.
We understand. Although Wikia was set up by the same people as the Wikimedia Foundation - it is a separate company and not part of Wikimedia (which is non profit).

Categories

Just read your comment as I was about to type one here. Our categorization system is simple but it works for us. I appreciate you trying to help, but remember that these two sites have grown up differently. For example, what would go in the Geography category? We don't have many articles on the landscape of the games other than specific locations. If you have any suggestions, we'll discuss them - that's how stuff is done here. Xenon (Admin) talk 19:56, 27 April 2007 (BST)

Ah, okay, I understand. I will try my best adapting to this whole new, ahem, "landscape". :P But, thanks. I appreciate it. :) --Legion 19:59, 27 April 2007 (BST)

These are quite big changes (editing lots of pages), so discussion is really required. How is this for a suggestion: Category:Locations stores all the categories I list here; Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas stores every single location in GTA San Andreas (every village and district), same with Category:Locations in GTA Vice City and Category:Locations in GTA III and Category:Locations in GTA Liberty City Stories and Category:Locations in GTA Vice City Stories and Category:Locations in GTA IV and Category:Locations in GTA1 and Category:Locations in GTA2. If a location is in more than one game (eg Washington Beach) then it can go in more than one category (VC and VCS). We can even use Category:Cities to list only the actual cities (but these don't need to be categories). The only slight problem is that Bohan won't be in a Liberty City category, because there is more than one Liberty City - it'll just be in the GTA IV category. We don't need cities and geography and stuff. Feel free to use this system here now. Xenon (Admin) talk 20:10, 27 April 2007 (BST)

Okay, those suggestions are quite good so I'll get to them soon. Also, where is this place we can use to propose and discuss categories? I think it'd be best to have a central location for that kind of discussion. I am quite literally an 'idea generator' so my pool of ideas are just waiting to be unleashed. Thanks, once again. :P --Legion 20:28, 27 April 2007 (BST) (forgot to add my signature o-o)

That is a very good thing to be. Just remember that there are other people with ideas and things round here too :P - I would say use the Community Portal for ideas and discussion (its not used for anything else). Anything particularly massive should definitely be discussed there first, and although most things can go through me, I would like to try and get this community to be a bit more self-sufficient. People like yourself are a central part of that. Although it would be nice if you could stick to adding/fixing content more than totally reorganising us just yet :) - We have loads of red links that need blueifying too. Xenon (Admin) talk 20:37, 27 April 2007 (BST)

I also want to add that we have rather excessive amount of uncategorized pages and uncategorized categories, both of which can be found via Special pages. In addition, I would like to recommend creating Districts categories for each of cities respectively, if possible. As for Locations categories for each cities, normally I would have used "Places" instead of "Locations" in its place within naming of those categories but I guess that's alright.
I am just a stickler for organization stuff. I once joked back at GTAWiki that I might as well be their "Director of Categorizations". lol :P --Legion 20:28, 27 April 2007 (BST)

Organisation is my middle name. No, really... Anyway, the uncategorized stuff should be categorized, BUT we don't need billions of different types of categories yet. Start off by making sure EVERY article is in ONE category, THEN diversify them. There is no need for a category for each district, simple because there are almost no articles that would fit in there. If Category:Locations in GTA San Andreas gets too big, then we'll look at making one for each City. Although for GTA IV, we might need one for each borough - not yet though (because there's no content). Having billions of empty categories just makes the site look empty - we want to have a handful of full categories :) Xenon (Admin) talk 20:39, 27 April 2007 (BST)

Stuff

I've never seen anybody work as quick as you :P - things are running smoother already, especially now we agree on what you're doing. Not too keen on the acronyms MTC and ILC - we'll stick with typo, links, sp, grammar etc for the edit summary - other people need to be able to understand it. I'm a big fan of acronyms myself (this is getting spooky) but I don't use them on other people. If we need the CAG at CIC with the CO and XO (2ic) RFN because IFF on DRADIS is recording CBDR... nobody has a clue what I'm on about. Keep up the good work. Xenon (Admin) talk 00:36, 29 April 2007 (BST)

Ah, thanks. I was kind of trying to be quick and efficient. Time is money, as some would say. Basically, time is spent like money. Time is like another currency. I have plentiful of times, especially given that I don't have job or education to attend, although that will change in either May or June, when I will be leaving for Texas for, uh, "rehabilitation". :P
I'll try to keep edit summary more simplified while avoiding possible confusion, especially with acronyms. I was also considering using code or something and refers those reading edit summary to code system chart or whatever. Like Code Blue or whatever. I later decided against that... lol. :P
Again, thanks. --Legion 01:23, 29 April 2007 (BST)

The point of an edit summary is to quickly explain what you did in that edit (eg removed spam, fixed a link) so that you don't have to go and check the diff log to see exactly what you did. Making you go to another page to figure out wtf you mean defeats the object of that. It is also helpful if you want to explain why you did something (removed link because on wrong page or spam etc). Prize for the first person to fully translate the acronyms I used above. Xenon (Admin) talk 02:00, 29 April 2007 (BST)

There are some of those acronyms for which I immediately recognizes... CiC would be Commander-in-Chief, I believe. CO is Commanding Officer. I don't know what other acroynms are, though some seems to be familiar to me but what it stands for, I forgot. IFF seems to be vaguely closer to that of EFF, which is Electronic Frontier Foundation or something similar. Hence, I sucks at remembering lot of stuff. :P
Anyway, yeah, I see your point now. I just am trying to make sure that my edit summary doesn't get too long. To illustrate this dilemma I am facing, I have already gotten complaints, both on-line and in real life, that my usual writings are too long... even my college professors expressed their concerns about my writings... my essays there were unexpectedly too long for them when they have other essays to review and grade.... I don't recall how many pages it was but it was certainly too many pages in my case. :/ --Legion 02:17, 29 April 2007 (BST)