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Gboyers: Promoting & Archiving

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Promoting & Archiving

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	I do agree that ZS is a good and usefull member of this wiki. I vote for promotion. [[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]] 11:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)		*I do agree that ZS is a good and usefull member of this wiki. I vote for promotion. [[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]] 11:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

			*I'm happy to offer ZS a promotion directly to [[Administrator]], as he has shown that he understands the sensitive issues that administrators are exposed to, he has demonstrated useful tasks he would use with those tools, and his commitment to this project shows he can be trusted with them. If this doesn't work, we can think about it again, but I wish him the best of luck! [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 18:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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	*[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]] 11:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)		*[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]] 11:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
	*~~'''~~[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]~~'''~~		*[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]
			*[[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 18:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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Spaceeinstein: /* Votes */ I support

2009-07-01T16:00:02Z

Votes: I support

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			*'''[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]'''

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Gboyers: More questions :)

2009-07-01T14:42:28Z

Gboyers: /* Questions */

2009-07-01T14:40:40Z

Questions

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	:Not really. There isn't much left to say that isn't already mentioned. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)		:Not really. There isn't much left to say that isn't already mentioned. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

			Do you have any experience of moderating another website, or any similar experience that would prove your abilities? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 14:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


			You correctly identify most of the problems a new member has, so what would you have GTW do differently to help eliminate those problems, or stop the lack of skills being a problem? Simply providing detailed guides in a hidden help section isn't enough. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 14:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


			You mention the "messy" policy making on Wikipedia. As you should be aware, policy on GTW is undemocratic, but people are more than welcome to submit suggestions and help us work on ideas, and we take a lot of comments made in the field. How would you change this to produce the "best" policies, keep everything consistent, and make policy accessible to uninterested members? Please don't take this as a jibe, but I genuinely think it would be better if more people were involved in this side of the wiki. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 14:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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ZS at 13:25, 1 July 2009

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			::Sure, I'll accept the nomination. It could prove to be be beneficial to this wiki. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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ZS at 13:22, 1 July 2009

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			What do you think is the hardest thing for new editors to get the hang of (whether a technical skill, a policy or just the way we do things here); how would you spot they were having difficulty; and how would you help them? Maybe explain what was the hardest thing you've had to learn whilst being here? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:One has to assume that most new editors may not have been exposed to other wikis prior, so they may have neither the know-how of wiki editing, nor an understanding of standards in wiki. Fine and well, give the editor some advice and starter guides, and they should improve and become a productive member of this wiki.

	~~What do you think is the hardest thing for new~~ editors ~~to get the hang~~ of (~~whether a technical skill~~, ~~a policy~~ or ~~just the way we do things here~~); ~~how would you spot they were having difficulty; and how would~~ you ~~help them? Maybe explain~~ what ~~was~~ the ~~hardest thing you~~'~~ve had~~ to ~~learn whilst being here? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}~~		:It's also common to encounter writing that could be better, suggesting that certain editors may not have a strong command of language (either because they are still insufficiently educated, or they are not native English speakers); in cases like these, the best course of action is to copyedit the hell out of the text (if you can make out what the writing actually means), because it's not always beneficial to advice said editors on language.

			:My experience with Wikipedia certainly isn't entirely compatible with this wiki. With a different wiki comes different policies and guidelines, which result in some degree of confusion, particularly with the issue of article titles (capitalization and use of bracketed disambiguation). I'll adapt, but I'm still committed to supply some opinions with regards to minor issues such as the aforementioned standards for titles. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Becoming staff isn't a reward for good edits, it's a job and a respoinsibility. How do you feel you could help us, and why should we promote you to become a Moderator? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Becoming staff isn't a reward for good edits, it's a job and a respoinsibility. How do you feel you could help us, and why should we promote you to become a Moderator? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:My primary contributions are concentrated on the ground, performing actual edits on articles, setting standards on layouts (using standardized sections and tables), article naming, image uploads and management. I'm not too fond being occupied with actual discussions on policies, especially with bad experience involving Wikipedia's messy policy making, but I can provide thoughts on any upcoming guidelines if I feel the need to comment on them. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Are there any little [[Grand Theft Wiki:Tasks\|tasks]], jobs or vendettas you perform around the wiki that you are particularly proud of? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Are there any little [[Grand Theft Wiki:Tasks\|tasks]], jobs or vendettas you perform around the wiki that you are particularly proud of? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:Images. Mostly images. Given I have a computer specially built to run GTA IV and knowledge on how to take these screenshots, I have the means to provide this wiki high-quality pictures from nearly all GTA games, except GTAA. Visual description of a topic, as is the quality of the images, are important, and lots of others images here are lacking in these regards. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Could you give one example of what you think is one of the best pages on this wiki, and a brief explanation of why you chose that. It should probably be an informational article, but you could use a list or category or similar if you explain why. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Could you give one example of what you think is one of the best pages on this wiki, and a brief explanation of why you chose that. It should probably be an informational article, but you could use a list or category or similar if you explain why. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:[[Communication]]. The article sufficiently covers aspects of equipment used for communication in all GTA games without bias in favor of newer, non-topdown based GTA games. In addition, specific images are provided for all known equipment, providing a mostly complete visualization of the topic. It's not perfect, but it's still one of the best articles around.

			:[[Banshee]], [[Stallion]] and [[Manana]] are good example of how a vehicle's page should be. Sections on specific topics are properly sorted, and sufficient images are included. Nearly all renditions are covered, although coverage on GTAA is not complete. Of course, I'll choose the layout of the article based on the length of the article. In some cases, when the page is too short, sections may not be required. But images are definitely mandatory. As mentioned, they're not perfect, but still very good. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Do you have any questions about the wiki, its staff or the role of a Moderator, or any final comments before we make our decision? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Do you have any questions about the wiki, its staff or the role of a Moderator, or any final comments before we make our decision? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:Not really. There isn't much left to say that isn't already mentioned. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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Chimpso at 11:58, 29 June 2009

2009-06-29T11:58:40Z

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			I do agree that ZS is a good and usefull member of this wiki. I vote for promotion. [[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]] 11:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

	==Votes==		==Votes==
	:''This section is for any user to formally list whether they are in favour of this promotion or not. Simply sign your name on a bullet point, add any comments into the comments section. '''This is NOT a vote''', but the results will be taken into consideration by the Managers. Remember, this is not whether you like the user, but whether they would be a good member of staff.''		:''This section is for any user to formally list whether they are in favour of this promotion or not. Simply sign your name on a bullet point, add any comments into the comments section. '''This is NOT a vote''', but the results will be taken into consideration by the Managers. Remember, this is not whether you like the user, but whether they would be a good member of staff.''
	'''Users in support of this promotion:'''		'''Users in support of this promotion:'''
	*~~...~~		*[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]] 11:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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	You mention the "messy" policy making on Wikipedia. As you should be aware, policy on GTW is undemocratic, but people are more than welcome to submit suggestions and help us work on ideas, and we take a lot of comments made in the field. How would you change this to produce the "best" policies, keep everything consistent, and make policy accessible to uninterested members? Please don't take this as a jibe, but I genuinely think it would be better if more people were involved in this side of the wiki. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 14:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)		You mention the "messy" policy making on Wikipedia. As you should be aware, policy on GTW is undemocratic, but people are more than welcome to submit suggestions and help us work on ideas, and we take a lot of comments made in the field. How would you change this to produce the "best" policies, keep everything consistent, and make policy accessible to uninterested members? Please don't take this as a jibe, but I genuinely think it would be better if more people were involved in this side of the wiki. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 14:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


			What would you do differently if you were given moderator/sysop status, rights and tools? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup>


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			What do you think is the hardest thing for new editors to get the hang of (whether a technical skill, a policy or just the way we do things here); how would you spot they were having difficulty; and how would you help them? Maybe explain what was the hardest thing you've had to learn whilst being here? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:One has to assume that most new editors may not have been exposed to other wikis prior, so they may have neither the know-how of wiki editing, nor an understanding of standards in wiki. Fine and well, give the editor some advice and starter guides, and they should improve and become a productive member of this wiki.

	~~What do you think is the hardest thing for new~~ editors ~~to get the hang~~ of (~~whether a technical skill~~, ~~a policy~~ or ~~just the way we do things here~~); ~~how would you spot they were having difficulty; and how would~~ you ~~help them? Maybe explain~~ what ~~was~~ the ~~hardest thing you~~'~~ve had~~ to ~~learn whilst being here? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}~~		:It's also common to encounter writing that could be better, suggesting that certain editors may not have a strong command of language (either because they are still insufficiently educated, or they are not native English speakers); in cases like these, the best course of action is to copyedit the hell out of the text (if you can make out what the writing actually means), because it's not always beneficial to advice said editors on language.

			:My experience with Wikipedia certainly isn't entirely compatible with this wiki. With a different wiki comes different policies and guidelines, which result in some degree of confusion, particularly with the issue of article titles (capitalization and use of bracketed disambiguation). I'll adapt, but I'm still committed to supply some opinions with regards to minor issues such as the aforementioned standards for titles. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Becoming staff isn't a reward for good edits, it's a job and a respoinsibility. How do you feel you could help us, and why should we promote you to become a Moderator? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Becoming staff isn't a reward for good edits, it's a job and a respoinsibility. How do you feel you could help us, and why should we promote you to become a Moderator? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:My primary contributions are concentrated on the ground, performing actual edits on articles, setting standards on layouts (using standardized sections and tables), article naming, image uploads and management. I'm not too fond being occupied with actual discussions on policies, especially with bad experience involving Wikipedia's messy policy making, but I can provide thoughts on any upcoming guidelines if I feel the need to comment on them. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Are there any little [[Grand Theft Wiki:Tasks\|tasks]], jobs or vendettas you perform around the wiki that you are particularly proud of? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Are there any little [[Grand Theft Wiki:Tasks\|tasks]], jobs or vendettas you perform around the wiki that you are particularly proud of? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:Images. Mostly images. Given I have a computer specially built to run GTA IV and knowledge on how to take these screenshots, I have the means to provide this wiki high-quality pictures from nearly all GTA games, except GTAA. Visual description of a topic, as is the quality of the images, are important, and lots of others images here are lacking in these regards. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Could you give one example of what you think is one of the best pages on this wiki, and a brief explanation of why you chose that. It should probably be an informational article, but you could use a list or category or similar if you explain why. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Could you give one example of what you think is one of the best pages on this wiki, and a brief explanation of why you chose that. It should probably be an informational article, but you could use a list or category or similar if you explain why. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:[[Communication]]. The article sufficiently covers aspects of equipment used for communication in all GTA games without bias in favor of newer, non-topdown based GTA games. In addition, specific images are provided for all known equipment, providing a mostly complete visualization of the topic. It's not perfect, but it's still one of the best articles around.

			:[[Banshee]], [[Stallion]] and [[Manana]] are good example of how a vehicle's page should be. Sections on specific topics are properly sorted, and sufficient images are included. Nearly all renditions are covered, although coverage on GTAA is not complete. Of course, I'll choose the layout of the article based on the length of the article. In some cases, when the page is too short, sections may not be required. But images are definitely mandatory. As mentioned, they're not perfect, but still very good. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

	Do you have any questions about the wiki, its staff or the role of a Moderator, or any final comments before we make our decision? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}		Do you have any questions about the wiki, its staff or the role of a Moderator, or any final comments before we make our decision? [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> {{#time:H:i, j F Y\|{{CURRENTTIME}} {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}

			:Not really. There isn't much left to say that isn't already mentioned. - [[User:ZS\|ZS]] 13:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

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