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		<title>Gboyers: moved Talk:GTA IV Gripes/Weapons to Community talk:GTA IV Gripes/Weapons</title>
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		<updated>2010-10-13T17:53:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/Talk:GTA_IV_Gripes/Weapons&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:GTA IV Gripes/Weapons&quot;&gt;Talk:GTA IV Gripes/Weapons&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/Community_talk:GTA_IV_Gripes/Weapons&quot; title=&quot;Community talk:GTA IV Gripes/Weapons&quot;&gt;Community talk:GTA IV Gripes/Weapons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:53, 13 October 2010&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Gboyers</name></author>
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		<title>Gboyers: /* realistic, not realistic, realistic, not realistic? */</title>
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		<updated>2009-12-29T17:35:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;realistic, not realistic, realistic, not realistic?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hi all, i have been reading these gripes for a while and i&amp;#039;m not sure theyre very useful at all. It seems a bit hypocritical that in one gripe a person might ask &amp;quot;why cant i &amp;#039;X&amp;#039;&amp;quot; (where X is some feature that was in a past version) to which the rebuttal is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;always&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;quot;its been made more realistic&amp;quot;. But then, in the next gripe, someone asks something such as &amp;#039;whydont i die when i ride off a skyscraper on a motorbike&amp;#039; to which the rebuttal is &amp;#039;because its a game and not realistic&amp;#039;. Isnt this more than a bit hypocritical? Doesnt this make the gripes totally useless? Just a thought, isnt there any way we can tidy this up? [[User:Braindigitalis|Braindigitalis]] 17:12, December 29, 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hi all, i have been reading these gripes for a while and i&amp;#039;m not sure theyre very useful at all. It seems a bit hypocritical that in one gripe a person might ask &amp;quot;why cant i &amp;#039;X&amp;#039;&amp;quot; (where X is some feature that was in a past version) to which the rebuttal is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;always&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;quot;its been made more realistic&amp;quot;. But then, in the next gripe, someone asks something such as &amp;#039;whydont i die when i ride off a skyscraper on a motorbike&amp;#039; to which the rebuttal is &amp;#039;because its a game and not realistic&amp;#039;. Isnt this more than a bit hypocritical? Doesnt this make the gripes totally useless? Just a thought, isnt there any way we can tidy this up? [[User:Braindigitalis|Braindigitalis]] 17:12, December 29, 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I agree entirely - there is a huge spectrum of GTA players here. There are those that just like to have fun, do crazy stuff, use cheats etc; and there are those that insist on being precise and accurate about everything and making the game as realistic as possible. It&#039;s difficult to cater for all of these. The gripes system was made to keep opinion out of the rest of the wiki - giving people a platform to vent their frustrations rather than incorporate it into the factual articles. The thousands of gripes listed here prove that there needs to be somewhere for people to express them; and people can read through if they want. The only useful way to clean this up would to be have something like a poll of the most-wanted features. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:35, December 29, 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>gtw&gt;Braindigitalis: Created page with &#039;= realistic, not realistic, realistic, not realistic? =  Hi all, i have been reading these gripes for a while and i&#039;m not sure theyre very useful at all. It seems a bit hypocriti…&#039;</title>
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		<updated>2009-12-29T17:12:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;= realistic, not realistic, realistic, not realistic? =  Hi all, i have been reading these gripes for a while and i&amp;#039;m not sure theyre very useful at all. It seems a bit hypocriti…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;= realistic, not realistic, realistic, not realistic? =&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi all, i have been reading these gripes for a while and i&amp;#039;m not sure theyre very useful at all. It seems a bit hypocritical that in one gripe a person might ask &amp;quot;why cant i &amp;#039;X&amp;#039;&amp;quot; (where X is some feature that was in a past version) to which the rebuttal is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;always&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;quot;its been made more realistic&amp;quot;. But then, in the next gripe, someone asks something such as &amp;#039;whydont i die when i ride off a skyscraper on a motorbike&amp;#039; to which the rebuttal is &amp;#039;because its a game and not realistic&amp;#039;. Isnt this more than a bit hypocritical? Doesnt this make the gripes totally useless? Just a thought, isnt there any way we can tidy this up? [[User:Braindigitalis|Braindigitalis]] 17:12, December 29, 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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