Talk:Grand Theft Auto World - Revision history

A-Dust at 21:07, 18 February 2011

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	''"[New York City] is an environment we felt had never been done to the level we were envisioning it in a video game. From looking at all of the locations, this was the one that really stood out to us, and really had that impact. It has all of these iconic things that you couldn't put into a game before."''		''"[New York City] is an environment we felt had never been done to the level we were envisioning it in a video game. From looking at all of the locations, this was the one that really stood out to us, and really had that impact. It has all of these iconic things that you couldn't put into a game before."''

	Those two quotes from [[Dan Houser]] talk about making a new city from scratch. There is nothing to suggest that GTA IV is simply an upgraded Liberty City - all the areas of the city are totally new and different, there's the new layout, new buildings, different bridges, even a different scale of the city. If it were [[Portland Island]], [[Staunton Island]] and [[Shoreside Vale]], then yes it would be the same city. But Broker, Algonquin, Dukes, Bohan and Alderney is nothing to do with the GTA III Liberty City. [[User:Xenon\|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon\|?]]) 08:13, 9 June 2007 (BST)		Those two quotes from [[Dan Houser]] talk about making a new city from scratch. There is nothing to suggest that GTA IV is simply an upgraded Liberty City - all the areas of the city are totally new and different, there's the new layout, new buildings, different bridges, even a different scale of the city. If it were [[Portland\|Portland Island]], [[Staunton Island]] and [[Shoreside Vale]], then yes it would be the same city. But Broker, Algonquin, Dukes, Bohan and Alderney is nothing to do with the GTA III Liberty City. [[User:Xenon\|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon\|?]]) 08:13, 9 June 2007 (BST)

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A-Dust at 22:10, 9 September 2010

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	With regards to [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Auto_World&diff=9561&oldid=9501 this edit], I think the [[Liberty City in GTA IV]] is totally diffent to the one in [[GTA III]] and [[GTA LCS]]. This is not just an upgrade (like [[GTA3]]>[[LCS]], or [[~~GTAVC~~\|VC]]>[[VCS]]), it is a totally new city. It is certainly based on the same thing (New York City) and undoubtedly contains a lot of references to the past, but I am struggling to justify saying it is merely "different". That makes me think of perhaps a new area to the city and new buildings etc. What we actually have is a totally different map, made from scratch, new district names ([[Algonquin]] etc) and what appears to be no physical connection to the old Liberty City. [[User:Xenon\|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon\|?]]) 18:57, 8 June 2007 (BST)		With regards to [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Auto_World&diff=9561&oldid=9501 this edit], I think the [[Liberty City in GTA IV]] is totally diffent to the one in [[Grand Theft Auto III\|GTA III]] and [[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories\|GTA LCS]]. This is not just an upgrade (like [[Grand Theft Auto III\|GTA3]]>[[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories\|LCS]], or [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City\|VC]]>[[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories\|VCS]]), it is a totally new city. It is certainly based on the same thing (New York City) and undoubtedly contains a lot of references to the past, but I am struggling to justify saying it is merely "different". That makes me think of perhaps a new area to the city and new buildings etc. What we actually have is a totally different map, made from scratch, new district names ([[Algonquin]] etc) and what appears to be no physical connection to the old Liberty City. [[User:Xenon\|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon\|?]]) 18:57, 8 June 2007 (BST)

	:Yes, but i believe that Rockstar already confirmed that this is the same [[Liberty City]]. [[User:George\|George]] 03:54, 9 June 2007 (BST)		:Yes, but i believe that Rockstar already confirmed that this is the same [[Liberty City]]. [[User:George\|George]] 03:54, 9 June 2007 (BST)

Ghost Leader: /* San Durango */

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	So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego\|San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)		So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego\|San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have relocated a Mexico City equivalent to Baja California and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)		* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have relocated a Mexico City equivalent to Baja California and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
			* I would imagine Los Santos has enough of a Latino population to make a San Diego-based city redundant. [[User:Ghost Leader\|Ghost Leader]] 02:03, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Tornmuscle: /* Cottonmouth */

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	:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)		:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
	:It is a part of the GTA world, but this city wasn't mentioned so far in the GTA Series, however, San Fierro, San Andreas, Carcer City and Vice City were mentioned in Manhunt 2.--[[User:Mackomontana\|Mackomontana]] 21:26, December 27, 2009 (UTC)		:It is a part of the GTA world, but this city wasn't mentioned so far in the GTA Series, however, San Fierro, San Andreas, Carcer City and Vice City were mentioned in Manhunt 2.--[[User:Mackomontana\|Mackomontana]] 21:26, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
			It should be given a brief mention at the bottom of the page, as it does refrence the GTA games, even if the GTA games havn't yet mentioned it.--[[User:Tornmuscle\|Tornmuscle]] 22:14, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

	== San Durango ==		== San Durango ==

gtw>Mackomontana at 21:26, 27 December 2009

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	Cottonmouth should also be a location in the GTA world as it is the setting of Manhunt 2. [[User:Carlosvc92\|Carlosvc92]] 03:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)		Cottonmouth should also be a location in the GTA world as it is the setting of Manhunt 2. [[User:Carlosvc92\|Carlosvc92]] 03:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
	:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)		:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
	:It is a part of the GTA world, but this city wasn't mentioned so far in the GTA Series, however, San Fierro, San Andreas, Carcer City and Vice City were mentioned in Manhunt 2.		:It is a part of the GTA world, but this city wasn't mentioned so far in the GTA Series, however, San Fierro, San Andreas, Carcer City and Vice City were mentioned in Manhunt 2.--[[User:Mackomontana\|Mackomontana]] 21:26, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

	== San Durango ==		== San Durango ==

gtw>Mackomontana at 21:25, 27 December 2009

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	Cottonmouth should also be a location in the GTA world as it is the setting of Manhunt 2. [[User:Carlosvc92\|Carlosvc92]] 03:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)		Cottonmouth should also be a location in the GTA world as it is the setting of Manhunt 2. [[User:Carlosvc92\|Carlosvc92]] 03:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
	:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)		:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
			:It is a part of the GTA world, but this city wasn't mentioned so far in the GTA Series, however, San Fierro, San Andreas, Carcer City and Vice City were mentioned in Manhunt 2.

	== San Durango ==		== San Durango ==

gtw>ENG: /* San Durango */

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San Durango

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	So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)		So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego\|San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have relocated a Mexico City equivalent to Baja California and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)		* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have relocated a Mexico City equivalent to Baja California and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

gtw>Samadriel: /* San Durango */

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	So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)		So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have ~~invented~~ a ~~relocated~~ Mexico City equivalent and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)		* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have relocated a Mexico City equivalent to Baja California and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

gtw>Samadriel: /* San Durango */

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	So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)		So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
			* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have invented a relocated Mexico City equivalent and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

gtw>ENG: /* San Durango */ new section

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	Cottonmouth should also be a location in the GTA world as it is the setting of Manhunt 2. [[User:Carlosvc92\|Carlosvc92]] 03:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)		Cottonmouth should also be a location in the GTA world as it is the setting of Manhunt 2. [[User:Carlosvc92\|Carlosvc92]] 03:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
	:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)		:Which makes it totally irrelevant?[[User:Ess-Tee\|Ess-Tee]] 16:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

			== San Durango ==

			So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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	So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego\|San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)		So, what is YOUR take on why RockStar didn't include a city directly based on [[Wikipedia:San Diego\|San Diego]]? If it is bigger than San Francisco, why didn't they deem San Diego important enough to model a GTA city after it? --[[User:ENG\|ENG]] 20:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
	* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have relocated a Mexico City equivalent to Baja California and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)		* They considered San Francisco more culturally distinctive and internationally recognisable? Like it matters anyway. If population was so important, they could just as easily have relocated a Mexico City equivalent to Baja California and made it the southernmost location -- more people than New York, there. --[[User:Samadriel\|Samadriel]] 02:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
			* I would imagine Los Santos has enough of a Latino population to make a San Diego-based city redundant. [[User:Ghost Leader\|Ghost Leader]] 02:03, March 14, 2010 (UTC)