Talk:The Lost and Damned - Revision history

A-Dust at 22:18, 19 February 2011

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	:That is also what I was thinking.I don't know if this really matters but I have seen other games do that such as '''Saints Row 2: Ultor Exposed''' that just came out a few days ago.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]		:That is also what I was thinking.I don't know if this really matters but I have seen other games do that such as '''Saints Row 2: Ultor Exposed''' that just came out a few days ago.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]

	::Yes, technically speaking it seems to be "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned". However, that is not what it is known as. On here we have a culture of [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=GTA_San_Andreas&redirect=no usability], rather than anal technical [[Big Smoke\|accuracy]]. If everyone wants this page to be called [[GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]], then fair enough. But I'm not having stupidly long page names for no reason (a la [[List of Vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]] or [[Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned (expansion pack)]] or anything of the sort. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 22:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)		::Yes, technically speaking it seems to be "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned". However, that is not what it is known as. On here we have a culture of [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=GTA_San_Andreas&redirect=no usability], rather than anal technical [[Big Smoke\|accuracy]]. If everyone wants this page to be called [[The Lost and Damned\|GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]], then fair enough. But I'm not having stupidly long page names for no reason (a la [[List of Vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]] or [[Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned (expansion pack)]] or anything of the sort. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 22:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

	:::I agree with just keeping it as ''The Lost and Damned''. That just makes it easier for other page names, like [[Characters in The Lost and Damned]] instead of [[Characters in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]]. The only thing that I think we need to make a decision on is how the information is sorted. Some things have their own article for TLAD, others have a section in the article about the same thing in the main game, and others have both. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)		:::I agree with just keeping it as ''The Lost and Damned''. That just makes it easier for other page names, like [[Characters in The Lost and Damned]] instead of [[Characters in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]]. The only thing that I think we need to make a decision on is how the information is sorted. Some things have their own article for TLAD, others have a section in the article about the same thing in the main game, and others have both. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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	Okay, the second and third are just a little, little bit longer. But the difference is milliscule. So, if you think that the second and third are long, then by that logic every article should be like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''. That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)		Okay, the second and third are just a little, little bit longer. But the difference is milliscule. So, if you think that the second and third are long, then by that logic every article should be like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''. That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

	:[[Vice City]] refers to the city and not the [[~~GTA~~ Vice City\|game]]. So ''Vehicles in Vice City'' would not be correct. However, in this case, [[Vehicles in The Lost and Damned]] ''is'' correct, so it's best to keep it simple, no? Also, most people know TLAD simply as ''the Lost and Damned'', and not [[Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned]] '''[[User:JFletcher\|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher\|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 01:15, 26 October 2010 (BST)		:[[Vice City]] refers to the city and not the [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City\|game]]. So ''Vehicles in Vice City'' would not be correct. However, in this case, [[Vehicles in The Lost and Damned]] ''is'' correct, so it's best to keep it simple, no? Also, most people know TLAD simply as ''the Lost and Damned'', and not [[The Lost and Damned\|Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned]] '''[[User:JFletcher\|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher\|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 01:15, 26 October 2010 (BST)

	== The Ps3 Rumour? ==		== The Ps3 Rumour? ==

Spaceeinstein: /* "Peter Pan" synopsis */ new section

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"Peter Pan" synopsis: new section

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	I don't think so, it's just a game bug or glitch, same happened to me. [[User:Fairnick68\|Fairnick68]] 14:45, June 29, 2010 (UTC)		I don't think so, it's just a game bug or glitch, same happened to me. [[User:Fairnick68\|Fairnick68]] 14:45, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

			== "Peter Pan" synopsis ==

			I am not aware of any connections between this and Peter Pan. Can someone explain? That section doesn't make any sense to me.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein\|spaceeinstein]]''' 01:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

JFletcher: /* Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned */ Spelling

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Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned: Spelling

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	Okay, the second and third are just a little, little bit longer. But the difference is milliscule. So, if you think that the second and third are long, then by that logic every article should be like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''. That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)		Okay, the second and third are just a little, little bit longer. But the difference is milliscule. So, if you think that the second and third are long, then by that logic every article should be like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''. That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

	:[[Vice City]] refers to the city and not the [[GTA Vice City\|game]]. So ''Vehicles in Vice City'' would not be correct. However, in this case, [[Vehicles in The Lost and Damned]] ''is'' correct, so it's best to keep it simple, no? Also, most people know TLAD ~~siply~~ as ''the Lost and Damned'', and not [[Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned]] '''[[User:JFletcher\|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher\|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 01:15, 26 October 2010 (BST)		:[[Vice City]] refers to the city and not the [[GTA Vice City\|game]]. So ''Vehicles in Vice City'' would not be correct. However, in this case, [[Vehicles in The Lost and Damned]] ''is'' correct, so it's best to keep it simple, no? Also, most people know TLAD simply as ''the Lost and Damned'', and not [[Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned]] '''[[User:JFletcher\|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher\|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 01:15, 26 October 2010 (BST)

	== The Ps3 Rumour? ==		== The Ps3 Rumour? ==

JFletcher: /* Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned */ Reply

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Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned: Reply

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	Okay, the second and third are just a little, little bit longer. But the difference is milliscule. So, if you think that the second and third are long, then by that logic every article should be like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''. That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)		Okay, the second and third are just a little, little bit longer. But the difference is milliscule. So, if you think that the second and third are long, then by that logic every article should be like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''. That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

			:[[Vice City]] refers to the city and not the [[GTA Vice City\|game]]. So ''Vehicles in Vice City'' would not be correct. However, in this case, [[Vehicles in The Lost and Damned]] ''is'' correct, so it's best to keep it simple, no? Also, most people know TLAD siply as ''the Lost and Damned'', and not [[Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned]] '''[[User:JFletcher\|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher\|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 01:15, 26 October 2010 (BST)

	== The Ps3 Rumour? ==		== The Ps3 Rumour? ==

A-Dust at 13:39, 22 September 2010

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	Whomever wrote that the disk is also exclusive to X-Box, please can you post a link where an official actually states this because you can't put that there unless it actually is exclusive. --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 19:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)		Whomever wrote that the disk is also exclusive to X-Box, please can you post a link where an official actually states this because you can't put that there unless it actually is exclusive. --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 19:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

	:The games (both [[TLAD]] and [[BOGT]]) are exclusive to [[Xbox]]. That means any disk with those games on must only be available for Xbox. It's not just a case of ''allowing'' it to work on [[PS3]], they have to edit it and compile a completely separate version which works completely differently. That's quite a big deal, and launching either of these DLCs for PS3 would be big news - with a big advertising campaign. That has not happened. They would not miss out on the massive opportunity and 'sneak' a PS3 release out. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 20:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)		:The games (both [[The Lost and Damned\|TLAD]] and [[The Ballad of Gay Tony\|BOGT]]) are exclusive to [[Xbox]]. That means any disk with those games on must only be available for Xbox. It's not just a case of ''allowing'' it to work on [[PS3]], they have to edit it and compile a completely separate version which works completely differently. That's quite a big deal, and launching either of these DLCs for PS3 would be big news - with a big advertising campaign. That has not happened. They would not miss out on the massive opportunity and 'sneak' a PS3 release out. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 20:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

	::That could've been part of the contract, that R* could not release this information.--[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 14:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)		::That could've been part of the contract, that R* could not release this information.--[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 14:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

A-Dust at 11:33, 9 September 2010

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	:That is also what I was thinking.I don't know if this really matters but I have seen other games do that such as '''Saints Row 2: Ultor Exposed''' that just came out a few days ago.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]		:That is also what I was thinking.I don't know if this really matters but I have seen other games do that such as '''Saints Row 2: Ultor Exposed''' that just came out a few days ago.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]

	::Yes, technically speaking it seems to be "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned". However, that is not what it is known as. On here we have a culture of [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=GTA_San_Andreas&redirect=no usability], rather than anal technical [[~~Melvin Harris~~\|accuracy]]. If everyone wants this page to be called [[GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]], then fair enough. But I'm not having stupidly long page names for no reason (a la [[List of Vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]] or [[Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned (expansion pack)]] or anything of the sort. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 22:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)		::Yes, technically speaking it seems to be "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned". However, that is not what it is known as. On here we have a culture of [http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=GTA_San_Andreas&redirect=no usability], rather than anal technical [[Big Smoke\|accuracy]]. If everyone wants this page to be called [[GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]], then fair enough. But I'm not having stupidly long page names for no reason (a la [[List of Vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]] or [[Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned (expansion pack)]] or anything of the sort. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 22:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

	:::I agree with just keeping it as ''The Lost and Damned''. That just makes it easier for other page names, like [[Characters in The Lost and Damned]] instead of [[Characters in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]]. The only thing that I think we need to make a decision on is how the information is sorted. Some things have their own article for TLAD, others have a section in the article about the same thing in the main game, and others have both. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)		:::I agree with just keeping it as ''The Lost and Damned''. That just makes it easier for other page names, like [[Characters in The Lost and Damned]] instead of [[Characters in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]]. The only thing that I think we need to make a decision on is how the information is sorted. Some things have their own article for TLAD, others have a section in the article about the same thing in the main game, and others have both. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Original Light: /* Invisble bowling and bikers */

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Invisble bowling and bikers

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	When I play Lost and damned the bowling bal and pins are not there and sometimes Johnny Biker Buddies are invisble when I hang out with them...is this because i deltes the dlc when I bought the episodes game disk? [[User:T-888\|T-888]] 15:30, March 17, 2010 (UTC)		When I play Lost and damned the bowling bal and pins are not there and sometimes Johnny Biker Buddies are invisble when I hang out with them...is this because i deltes the dlc when I bought the episodes game disk? [[User:T-888\|T-888]] 15:30, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

			I don't think so, it's just a game bug or glitch, same happened to me. [[User:Fairnick68\|Fairnick68]] 14:45, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Master Sima Yi at 17:37, 27 April 2010

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	So, the ~~last one is the longest~~, ~~I agree~~. But the difference is milliscule~~. And the second one is even shorter than the first one~~. So, if you think that the second and third are long, ~~why not make~~ every article like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''? That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)		Okay, the second and third are just a little, little bit longer. But the difference is milliscule. So, if you think that the second and third are long, then by that logic every article should be like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''. That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

	== The Ps3 Rumour? ==		== The Ps3 Rumour? ==

Master Sima Yi at 17:34, 27 April 2010

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	== Text messages ==		== Text messages ==
	This game was obviously intended for HD TVs... can someone please post the text messages, either on the mission pages or on a subpage here and I'll put 'em in appropriate places? I can't read a word of most of 'em on my TV :( --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight\|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight\|Talk2me]]</sup> 01:22, 9 March 2009 (UTC)		This game was obviously intended for HD TVs... can someone please post the text messages, either on the mission pages or on a subpage here and I'll put 'em in appropriate places? I can't read a word of most of 'em on my TV :( --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight\|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight\|Talk2me]]</sup> 01:22, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

	I agree. I have a 27 inch semi-HD/SD TV and it is near impossible to read the phone messages or the lower right hand corner items (street names, car names, etc. --[[User: Modern day Vercetti\|The Vercetti]] 18:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)		I agree. I have a 27 inch semi-HD/SD TV and it is near impossible to read the phone messages or the lower right hand corner items (street names, car names, etc. --[[User: Modern day Vercetti\|The Vercetti]] 18:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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	==Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned==		==Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned==
	I don't know why this hasn't crossed my mind till now, but shouldn't this expansion actually be referred to as "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned" and "GTA IV: The Lost and Damned"? --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight\|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight\|Talk2me]]</sup> 04:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)		I don't know why this hasn't crossed my mind till now, but shouldn't this expansion actually be referred to as "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned" and "GTA IV: The Lost and Damned"? --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight\|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight\|Talk2me]]</sup> 04:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

	:That is also what I was thinking.I don't know if this really matters but I have seen other games do that such as '''Saints Row 2: Ultor Exposed''' that just came out a few days ago.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]		:That is also what I was thinking.I don't know if this really matters but I have seen other games do that such as '''Saints Row 2: Ultor Exposed''' that just came out a few days ago.-[[User:BloodyGTA]]
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	:::I agree with just keeping it as ''The Lost and Damned''. That just makes it easier for other page names, like [[Characters in The Lost and Damned]] instead of [[Characters in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]]. The only thing that I think we need to make a decision on is how the information is sorted. Some things have their own article for TLAD, others have a section in the article about the same thing in the main game, and others have both. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)		:::I agree with just keeping it as ''The Lost and Damned''. That just makes it easier for other page names, like [[Characters in The Lost and Damned]] instead of [[Characters in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned]]. The only thing that I think we need to make a decision on is how the information is sorted. Some things have their own article for TLAD, others have a section in the article about the same thing in the main game, and others have both. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

	::::That makes perfect sense. It's only the title of this article that I imagine seeing changed to "'''Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned'''", and "The Lost and Damned" redirect to here. All other things can just refer to "The Lost and Damned", it's just that it looks so awkward and out of place in a list of games... which is obviously the reason I changed the display of the sidebar. Anyway, no big deal either way, I just thought I'd see what everyone else thinks.		::::That makes perfect sense. It's only the title of this article that I imagine seeing changed to "'''Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned'''", and "The Lost and Damned" redirect to here. All other things can just refer to "The Lost and Damned", it's just that it looks so awkward and out of place in a list of games... which is obviously the reason I changed the display of the sidebar. Anyway, no big deal either way, I just thought I'd see what everyone else thinks.
	::::As far as what TLAD content gets it's own page, most pages seem to go by the guidelines of: if the TLAD material on the subject is enough for an entire article, make it a separate article; if not, add the TLAD info to the GTA IV article for the same subject. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight\|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight\|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)		::::As far as what TLAD content gets it's own page, most pages seem to go by the guidelines of: if the TLAD material on the subject is enough for an entire article, make it a separate article; if not, add the TLAD info to the GTA IV article for the same subject. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight\|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight\|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

	Just to be consistent with the main articles of all the games, I believe the title of this article should be named "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned." All others, being also consistent with all other articles, can be kept short "The Lost and Damned."--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]''' 02:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)		Just to be consistent with the main articles of all the games, I believe the title of this article should be named "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned." All others, being also consistent with all other articles, can be kept short "The Lost and Damned."--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]''' 02:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
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	:With game names we ''expand'' the "GTA" into "Grand Theft Auto". That would be a reason for us having "Grand Theft Auto" instead of "GTA", but not instead of nothing. [[Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned]] is far too long, and not what the game needs to be known as. I say we keep it simple. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 03:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)		:With game names we ''expand'' the "GTA" into "Grand Theft Auto". That would be a reason for us having "Grand Theft Auto" instead of "GTA", but not instead of nothing. [[Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned]] is far too long, and not what the game needs to be known as. I say we keep it simple. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 03:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

	::Well, now the names has been changed to Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned, as seen on the EFLC disc. But still, the main article could still be named '''Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned''' instead of '''The Lost and Damned'''.		::Well, now the names has been changed to Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned, as seen on the EFLC disc. But still, the main article could still be named '''Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned''' instead of '''The Lost and Damned'''.


			Well, since I partially don't understand the things said above here (English is a foreign language to me), I'll just make my point here. It appears to me that you have problems with an article being named ''Vehicles in GTA The Lost and Damned'' or ''Vehicles in GTA The Ballad of Gay Tony'', but not with ''Vehicles in GTA Liberty City Stories''. Let's see article name is longer.

			*Vehicles in GTA Liberty City Stories
			*Vehicles in GTA The Lost and Damned
			*Vehicles in GTA The Ballad of Gay Tony

			So, the last one is the longest, I agree. But the difference is milliscule. And the second one is even shorter than the first one. So, if you think that the second and third are long, why not make every article like ''Vehicles in IV'' or ''Vehicles in Vice City''? That would be weird, wouldn't it? TLAD and TBoGT 'deserve' to have the 'GTA' part in the names of the articles related to them as much as any other GTA game. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 17:34, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

	== The Ps3 Rumour? ==		== The Ps3 Rumour? ==
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	::That could've been part of the contract, that R* could not release this information.--[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 14:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)		::That could've been part of the contract, that R* could not release this information.--[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 14:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

	:Er.. no. That doesn't make sense. The contract is an exclusivity contract. That means for a specified period of time, they can ONLY release it for Xbox 360, so that more people buy Xbox 360s instead of PS3s. As soon as that time limit ends, they can release it for PS3 (and they would have a lot of advertising to go with it, so that people would buy it). If Rockstar could release the game for PS3, that would defeat the point of the exclusivity contract. So either the exclusivity ends (and the DLCs then become completely available for PS3) or it continues (and it doesnt).<br style="line-height:0.5em">I don't know when the contract will end - if they end it soon, then people will know that all Rockstar's exclusivity contracts will eventually end, so (next time) they won't bother buying the first console, they'll just wait for the second one - damaging the exclusivity deal. If they leave it forever, people who currently have PS3s won't buy it ever. So they have to decide which to go with, and make a compromise. Just randomly quietly releasing the games on a disk for PS3 would be worse than both of those options (they get a lot less money from Microsoft because the exclusivity stops, and PS3 users dont know about it to buy it). If they DO make it available for PS3, then that will be big news and will not be hidden in a press release like this. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 15:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)		:Er.. no. That doesn't make sense. The contract is an exclusivity contract. That means for a specified period of time, they can ONLY release it for Xbox 360, so that more people buy Xbox 360s instead of PS3s. As soon as that time limit ends, they can release it for PS3 (and they would have a lot of advertising to go with it, so that people would buy it). If Rockstar could release the game for PS3, that would defeat the point of the exclusivity contract. So either the exclusivity ends (and the DLCs then become completely available for PS3) or it continues (and it doesnt).<br style="line-height:0.5em"/>I don't know when the contract will end - if they end it soon, then people will know that all Rockstar's exclusivity contracts will eventually end, so (next time) they won't bother buying the first console, they'll just wait for the second one - damaging the exclusivity deal. If they leave it forever, people who currently have PS3s won't buy it ever. So they have to decide which to go with, and make a compromise. Just randomly quietly releasing the games on a disk for PS3 would be worse than both of those options (they get a lot less money from Microsoft because the exclusivity stops, and PS3 users dont know about it to buy it). If they DO make it available for PS3, then that will be big news and will not be hidden in a press release like this. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 15:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

	== TLAD multiplayer compatibility issues with Episodes from Liberty City ==		== TLAD multiplayer compatibility issues with Episodes from Liberty City ==

gtw>T-888 at 15:30, 17 March 2010

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	:The policy here on Grand Theft Wiki is usability over 100% accuracy in terms of page naming. So, for example, we don't list Big Smoke as Melvin Harris, which is what the article should be for accuracy purposes. That is why the articles name is The Lost and Damned and why all links to the article should be listed as The Lost and Damned, and '''not''' Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned or GTA: The Lost and Damned. [[User:A-Dust\|A-Dust]] 23:44, December 22, 2009 (UTC)		:The policy here on Grand Theft Wiki is usability over 100% accuracy in terms of page naming. So, for example, we don't list Big Smoke as Melvin Harris, which is what the article should be for accuracy purposes. That is why the articles name is The Lost and Damned and why all links to the article should be listed as The Lost and Damned, and '''not''' Grand Theft Auto: The Lost and Damned or GTA: The Lost and Damned. [[User:A-Dust\|A-Dust]] 23:44, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

			==Invisble bowling and bikers==
			When I play Lost and damned the bowling bal and pins are not there and sometimes Johnny Biker Buddies are invisble when I hang out with them...is this because i deltes the dlc when I bought the episodes game disk? [[User:T-888\|T-888]] 15:30, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

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	Whomever wrote that the disk is also exclusive to X-Box, please can you post a link where an official actually states this because you can't put that there unless it actually is exclusive. --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 19:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)		Whomever wrote that the disk is also exclusive to X-Box, please can you post a link where an official actually states this because you can't put that there unless it actually is exclusive. --[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 19:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

	:The games (both [[TLAD]] and [[BOGT]]) are exclusive to [[Xbox]]. That means any disk with those games on must only be available for Xbox. It's not just a case of ''allowing'' it to work on [[PS3]], they have to edit it and compile a completely separate version which works completely differently. That's quite a big deal, and launching either of these DLCs for PS3 would be big news - with a big advertising campaign. That has not happened. They would not miss out on the massive opportunity and 'sneak' a PS3 release out. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 20:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)		:The games (both [[The Lost and Damned\|TLAD]] and [[The Ballad of Gay Tony\|BOGT]]) are exclusive to [[Xbox]]. That means any disk with those games on must only be available for Xbox. It's not just a case of ''allowing'' it to work on [[PS3]], they have to edit it and compile a completely separate version which works completely differently. That's quite a big deal, and launching either of these DLCs for PS3 would be big news - with a big advertising campaign. That has not happened. They would not miss out on the massive opportunity and 'sneak' a PS3 release out. [[User:Gboyers\|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers\|talk]]</sup> 20:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

	::That could've been part of the contract, that R* could not release this information.--[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 14:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)		::That could've been part of the contract, that R* could not release this information.--[[User:LuisFernandoLopez\|LuisFernandoLopez]] 14:59, 2 June 2009 (UTC)