Talk:Weapons in GTA IV - Revision history

ZombLee: /* Glock 17 or 22 */

2011-05-30T05:51:06Z

Glock 17 or 22

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	::Reason being that, even if you're right (you probably are) that such extended mags are available, it's pretty silly to expect that every single one of the hundreds of Glocks found in Liberty City has a non-standard magazine, so it doesn't really work as a handwave. --[[User:MattyDienhoff\|'''<font color="midnightblue">MattyDienhoff</font>''']] <sup>«[[User_talk:MattyDienhoff\|<font color="lightslategrey">talk</font>]]»</sup> 06:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)		::Reason being that, even if you're right (you probably are) that such extended mags are available, it's pretty silly to expect that every single one of the hundreds of Glocks found in Liberty City has a non-standard magazine, so it doesn't really work as a handwave. --[[User:MattyDienhoff\|'''<font color="midnightblue">MattyDienhoff</font>''']] <sup>«[[User_talk:MattyDienhoff\|<font color="lightslategrey">talk</font>]]»</sup> 06:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

	:~~And in~~ The Ballad of Gay Tony, the Glock is called "9mm", so it wouldn't make sense if it was a 22.--[[User:ZombLee\|ZombLee]] 06:49, 30 May 2011 (BST)		:In The Ballad of Gay Tony, the Glock is called "9mm", so it wouldn't make sense if it was a 22. --[[User:ZombLee\|ZombLee]] 06:49, 30 May 2011 (BST)

	== AK47 and M4A1 damage? ==		== AK47 and M4A1 damage? ==

ZombLee: →Glock 17 or 22

2011-05-30T05:49:36Z

→Glock 17 or 22

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	::Reason being that, even if you're right (you probably are) that such extended mags are available, it's pretty silly to expect that every single one of the hundreds of Glocks found in Liberty City has a non-standard magazine, so it doesn't really work as a handwave. --[[User:MattyDienhoff\|'''<font color="midnightblue">MattyDienhoff</font>''']] <sup>«[[User_talk:MattyDienhoff\|<font color="lightslategrey">talk</font>]]»</sup> 06:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)		::Reason being that, even if you're right (you probably are) that such extended mags are available, it's pretty silly to expect that every single one of the hundreds of Glocks found in Liberty City has a non-standard magazine, so it doesn't really work as a handwave. --[[User:MattyDienhoff\|'''<font color="midnightblue">MattyDienhoff</font>''']] <sup>«[[User_talk:MattyDienhoff\|<font color="lightslategrey">talk</font>]]»</sup> 06:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

			:And in The Ballad of Gay Tony, the Glock is called "9mm", so it wouldn't make sense if it was a 22.--[[User:ZombLee\|ZombLee]] 06:49, 30 May 2011 (BST)
	== AK47 and M4A1 damage? ==		== AK47 and M4A1 damage? ==

MattyDienhoff at 06:37, 26 July 2010

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	:Are you sure he wasn't talking about the CZ-75? Besides, there's a picture on the Weapons page that shows it as a Glock 22 (althought it entirely possible Rockstar still made it a 9mm. There very bad at weapons)-[[User:Mdietz007\|Mdietz007]] 01:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)		:Are you sure he wasn't talking about the CZ-75? Besides, there's a picture on the Weapons page that shows it as a Glock 22 (althought it entirely possible Rockstar still made it a 9mm. There very bad at weapons)-[[User:Mdietz007\|Mdietz007]] 01:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

			::I agree that it's a Glock 22 with somewhat incorrect stats. One note, I removed this sentence which someone added to the article recently:

			:::''Extended 17 round magazines are available for the G22 from Glock.''

			::Reason being that, even if you're right (you probably are) that such extended mags are available, it's pretty silly to expect that every single one of the hundreds of Glocks found in Liberty City has a non-standard magazine, so it doesn't really work as a handwave. --[[User:MattyDienhoff\|'''<font color="midnightblue">MattyDienhoff</font>''']] <sup>«[[User_talk:MattyDienhoff\|<font color="lightslategrey">talk</font>]]»</sup> 06:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

	== AK47 and M4A1 damage? ==		== AK47 and M4A1 damage? ==
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	:In my opinion it IS wrong. However the M4 fires slower then then tha AK which might have sparked this statement to be written. --'''''[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' 09:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)		:In my opinion it IS wrong. However the M4 fires slower then then tha AK which might have sparked this statement to be written. --'''''[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' 09:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

			::Looking at the WeaponInfo.xml, it seems that in single player there is very little difference between the M4 and the AK. They have the same damage, very similar accuracy, and the same rate of fire. The only significant difference is range. The M4 has a target range of 65 to the AK's 55. --[[User:MattyDienhoff\|'''<font color="midnightblue">MattyDienhoff</font>''']] <sup>«[[User_talk:MattyDienhoff\|<font color="lightslategrey">talk</font>]]»</sup> 06:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

	== Stun Hits ==		== Stun Hits ==

Chimpso: Reverted edits by Saintsrow2fan95 (talk | block) to last version by Stebner603

2010-07-05T06:29:45Z

Reverted edits by Saintsrow2fan95 (talk | block) to last version by Stebner603

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	Should the caliber descriptions be changed?		Should the caliber descriptions be changed?

	:That's certainly a valid point if both weapons use the same ammunition in-game, but are rated for different calibers. I would suggest simply making a note in both descriptions that they use the same ammunition, despite the barrels being of a different radius. I think it's best to leave the caliber descriptions as they are (assuming they are correct), as there are many people (you included) that seem to know their weapons ''very'' well, and would certainly notice such a discrpenacy. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio\|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)		:That's certainly a valid point if both weapons use the same ammunition in-game, but are rated for different calibers. I would suggest simply making a note in both descriptions that they use the same ammunition, despite the barrels being of a different radius. I think it's best to leave the caliber descriptions as they are (assuming they are correct), as there are many people (you included) that seem to know their weapons ''very'' well, and would certainly notice such a discrpenacy. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio\|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
	::You mentioned Eganio that the first person to post here (couldn't find user name) knows their weapons. I was reading it asking myself ''How does he possibilly know this''. I use names like machine gun, pistol, sniper rifle, and thing that has 2 handles but you hold it in one hand. Seriousley, to me you need to own weapons to know that much. LOL. I guess I can't help on this talk page. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest gta fan ever]] 08:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)		::You mentioned Eganio that the first person to post here (couldn't find user name) knows their weapons. I was reading it asking myself ''How does he possibilly know this''. I use names like machine gun, pistol, sniper rifle, and thing that has 2 handles but you hold it in one hand. Seriousley, to me you need to own weapons to know that much. LOL. I guess I can't help on this talk page. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest gta fan ever]] 08:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

	The fact that that both weapons share calibers is probably a mistake on Rockstar's part, and maybe as a gameplay aid, so the player doesnt have to buy 570 rounds of ammo over again. The 416 is 5.56mm and the AKM-47 (the AK-47 ingame is an AKM, because I spotted the characteristic indentation above the mag well, a sign that its an AKM) is 7.62x39. I doubt they share calibers, being two weapons from different countries. As for the HK416s abundance, like another member said, its probably an M4 with HK416 receiver and sight module attached. Would explain its appearance and fact that its found everywhere in the city -- [[User:MasterChief117\|MasterChief117]] 00:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)		The fact that that both weapons share calibers is probably a mistake on Rockstar's part, and maybe as a gameplay aid, so the player doesnt have to buy 570 rounds of ammo over again. The 416 is 5.56mm and the AKM-47 (the AK-47 ingame is an AKM, because I spotted the characteristic indentation above the mag well, a sign that its an AKM) is 7.62x39. I doubt they share calibers, being two weapons from different countries. As for the HK416s abundance, like another member said, its probably an M4 with HK416 receiver and sight module attached. Would explain its appearance and fact that its found everywhere in the city -- [[User:MasterChief117\|MasterChief117]] 00:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
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	I know, I was just wondering if anyone knew the exact times one can use the stun punch. ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 20:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC))		I know, I was just wondering if anyone knew the exact times one can use the stun punch. ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 20:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC))
	~~==Where have all the good times gone?==~~
	~~No chainsaw, minigun, flamethrower, fire extingwisher, tear gas, golf club, pool cue, sword, remote bombs and not even a nightstick (which is not over the top), Why?~~

gtw>Saintsrow2fan95 at 05:30, 5 July 2010

2010-07-05T05:30:39Z

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	Should the caliber descriptions be changed?		Should the caliber descriptions be changed?

	:That's certainly a valid point if both weapons use the same ammunition in-game, but are rated for different calibers. I would suggest simply making a note in both descriptions that they use the same ammunition, despite the barrels being of a different radius. I think it's best to leave the caliber descriptions as they are (assuming they are correct), as there are many people (you included) that seem to know their weapons ''very'' well, and would certainly notice such a discrpenacy. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio\|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)		:That's certainly a valid point if both weapons use the same ammunition in-game, but are rated for different calibers. I would suggest simply making a note in both descriptions that they use the same ammunition, despite the barrels being of a different radius. I think it's best to leave the caliber descriptions as they are (assuming they are correct), as there are many people (you included) that seem to know their weapons ''very'' well, and would certainly notice such a discrpenacy. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio\|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio\|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
	::You mentioned Eganio that the first person to post here (couldn't find user name) knows their weapons. I was reading it asking myself ''How does he possibilly know this''. I use names like machine gun, pistol, sniper rifle, and thing that has 2 handles but you hold it in one hand. Seriousley, to me you need to own weapons to know that much. LOL. I guess I can't help on this talk page. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest gta fan ever]] 08:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)		::You mentioned Eganio that the first person to post here (couldn't find user name) knows their weapons. I was reading it asking myself ''How does he possibilly know this''. I use names like machine gun, pistol, sniper rifle, and thing that has 2 handles but you hold it in one hand. Seriousley, to me you need to own weapons to know that much. LOL. I guess I can't help on this talk page. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever\|Biggest gta fan ever]] 08:12, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

	The fact that that both weapons share calibers is probably a mistake on Rockstar's part, and maybe as a gameplay aid, so the player doesnt have to buy 570 rounds of ammo over again. The 416 is 5.56mm and the AKM-47 (the AK-47 ingame is an AKM, because I spotted the characteristic indentation above the mag well, a sign that its an AKM) is 7.62x39. I doubt they share calibers, being two weapons from different countries. As for the HK416s abundance, like another member said, its probably an M4 with HK416 receiver and sight module attached. Would explain its appearance and fact that its found everywhere in the city -- [[User:MasterChief117\|MasterChief117]] 00:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)		The fact that that both weapons share calibers is probably a mistake on Rockstar's part, and maybe as a gameplay aid, so the player doesnt have to buy 570 rounds of ammo over again. The 416 is 5.56mm and the AKM-47 (the AK-47 ingame is an AKM, because I spotted the characteristic indentation above the mag well, a sign that its an AKM) is 7.62x39. I doubt they share calibers, being two weapons from different countries. As for the HK416s abundance, like another member said, its probably an M4 with HK416 receiver and sight module attached. Would explain its appearance and fact that its found everywhere in the city -- [[User:MasterChief117\|MasterChief117]] 00:52, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
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	I know, I was just wondering if anyone knew the exact times one can use the stun punch. ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 20:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC))		I know, I was just wondering if anyone knew the exact times one can use the stun punch. ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 20:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC))
			==Where have all the good times gone?==
			No chainsaw, minigun, flamethrower, fire extingwisher, tear gas, golf club, pool cue, sword, remote bombs and not even a nightstick (which is not over the top), Why?

gtw>Stebner603: /* Stun Hits */

2009-11-11T20:53:15Z

Stun Hits

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	:Stun punches are scripted. You can't use it during normal gameplay.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]''' 04:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)		:Stun punches are scripted. You can't use it during normal gameplay.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]''' 04:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

			I know, I was just wondering if anyone knew the exact times one can use the stun punch. ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 20:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC))

Spaceeinstein: /* Stun Hits */

2009-11-11T04:46:31Z

Stun Hits

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	I have only been able to find one time were Niko actually uses the stun punch, is there any other times when the option is available? ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 04:05, November 11, 2009 (UTC))		I have only been able to find one time were Niko actually uses the stun punch, is there any other times when the option is available? ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 04:05, November 11, 2009 (UTC))

			:Stun punches are scripted. You can't use it during normal gameplay.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein\|Spaceeinstein]]''' 04:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

gtw>Stebner603: /* Stun Hits */ new section

2009-11-11T04:05:25Z

Stun Hits: new section

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	:In my opinion it IS wrong. However the M4 fires slower then then tha AK which might have sparked this statement to be written. --'''''[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' 09:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)		:In my opinion it IS wrong. However the M4 fires slower then then tha AK which might have sparked this statement to be written. --'''''[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' 09:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

			== Stun Hits ==

			I have only been able to find one time were Niko actually uses the stun punch, is there any other times when the option is available? ([[User:Stebner603\|Stebner603]] 04:05, November 11, 2009 (UTC))

Chimpso: /* AK47 and M4A1 damage? */

2009-08-28T09:40:02Z

AK47 and M4A1 damage?

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	In the statistics, it says that both the AK47 and the M4A1 deal 30 damage, but in the descriptions it says that the M4A1 is more accurate but less powerful, and the AK47 is more powerful but less accurate. Is one of these wrong? [[User:ShakeZula7\|ShakeZula7]] 07:17, 20 August 2009 (UTC)		In the statistics, it says that both the AK47 and the M4A1 deal 30 damage, but in the descriptions it says that the M4A1 is more accurate but less powerful, and the AK47 is more powerful but less accurate. Is one of these wrong? [[User:ShakeZula7\|ShakeZula7]] 07:17, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

			:In my opinion it IS wrong. However the M4 fires slower then then tha AK which might have sparked this statement to be written. --'''''[[User:Chimpso\|Chimpso]]''''' ''Manager of [http://starskyandhutchgame.wikia.com/wiki/Starsky_and_Hutch_Game_Wiki Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki]'' 09:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

gtw>ShakeZula7: /* AK47 and M4A1 damage? */ new section

2009-08-20T07:17:50Z

AK47 and M4A1 damage?: new section

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	:Are you sure he wasn't talking about the CZ-75? Besides, there's a picture on the Weapons page that shows it as a Glock 22 (althought it entirely possible Rockstar still made it a 9mm. There very bad at weapons)-[[User:Mdietz007\|Mdietz007]] 01:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)		:Are you sure he wasn't talking about the CZ-75? Besides, there's a picture on the Weapons page that shows it as a Glock 22 (althought it entirely possible Rockstar still made it a 9mm. There very bad at weapons)-[[User:Mdietz007\|Mdietz007]] 01:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

			== AK47 and M4A1 damage? ==

			In the statistics, it says that both the AK47 and the M4A1 deal 30 damage, but in the descriptions it says that the M4A1 is more accurate but less powerful, and the AK47 is more powerful but less accurate. Is one of these wrong? [[User:ShakeZula7\|ShakeZula7]] 07:17, 20 August 2009 (UTC)