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This is the official Grand Theft Wiki GTA IV Gripes list.

For now, this page is open to everybody. If there is any abuse of this page it will be locked, and all submissions will have to go through the Discussion page.

The "Gripes" on this page are intended to warn new players of things they may not like about the game.

The "Rebuts" on this page are intended to explain to new players why some gripes may not be a "gripe" for all players.

Please do not repeat other people's gripes. Also, no silly/stupid/idiotic/explicit/racist gripes or rebuttals.

How To Gripe

  • Find the appropriate sub-page for your gripe.
  • Make sure your gripe hasn't already been mentioned.
  • Start a gripe with {{Gripe}}, then follow with your gripe.

How To Rebut Gripes

  • Rebuttals to gripes should be directly underneath the gripe.
  • Start your rebuttal with :{{Rebut}}, then follow with your rebuttal.
  • Rebuttals should address reasons it is not a valid gripe, and should not accuse the gripe of being "silly" or "stupid."

Gripe RebutReturning characters are completely absent, such as Claude Speed, El Burro, 8-Ball or even Toni Cipriani. There is little explanation why Rockstar Games did not return older characters from the past GTA eras.

RebutThere is an Easter Egg that shows the previous protagonists along with "R.I.P."

RebutWhere is the location to this easter egg?

RebutCheck the link above
RebutGo watch tv, apparently CJ is on there

RebutPicture please?

RebutHe probably means San Andreas. Clips of CJ driving various cars around Los Santos Airport, like the Hotring Racer, appear in the TV program "I'm Rich".

Gripe RebutPedestrian conversations are repetitive and are no where near as funny as they used to be.

RebutIsn't the game supposed to be more serious? I mean come on, the games based in poor, old, drug and crime filled New York. Nothing funny about that. But i do agree they aren't as funny as prior games but I understand why Rockstar did that.

Gripe RebutSome of the characters are downright painful and tedious. i.e. Brucie, Dwayne etc.

RebutThat's just opinion. I like Brucie's style in the game. Dwayne is very depressed though.

Gripe RebutEven after she died, you still have to go on a date with Kate.

RebutI think that was just a very bad glitch. or Niko Bellic's into necrophilia!

Gripe RebutThe girlfriends are just annoying. Michelle is alright up until you find out she's undercover, so then you loose one of two sane girlfriends. Then at the end of the game you loose Kate who's the other sane one. Either she gets killed or just won't pick up the phone and you basically never hear from her again. This leaves you with the three girls online, and they've all got severe issues. Kiki annoys me as she's a pretentious lawyer type who gets on your case about wearing nice clothes, Carmen is self absorbed and refers to herself in the third person, and Alex is the equivalent of dating Paris Hilton.