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What's going on with {{Navbox}}?

All templates linked there (like {{Vehicles}}, {{Weapons}}, {{Broker neighborhoods}}) show up with messed up template links (the "v • d • e" links on the upper left corner), yet that template hadn't been changed for months (Did a wiki software change cause this?). This needs to be looked into ASAP. - ZS 04:53, 15 August 2011 (BST)

Looks better now. Saw the nifty revision UI too. Good work. - ZS 06:02, 15 August 2011 (BST)
It looks like {{Navbox}} will still show a "Error: No name provided" line if it's displayed together with other navigation boxes though (Infernus#See also). - ZS 06:17, 15 August 2011 (BST)

Thanks and question

Thanks for making me trusted. However, a random notice, the list of trusted users doesn't seem very trustworthy. If I go to , I only get a list of 5 people? I can't help but think there should be more people on that list. Amongst others, all the admins are missing from it. Not a huge thing and maybe it's just me but thought I'd ask you anyway. --Andreaz1 13:04, 17 August 2011 (BST)

Yeah, that explains everything. I had a look in the User Rights Log and couldn't understand why the list was missing people that seemingly should have been on it. Now I understand though, thanks! --Andreaz1 13:26, 17 August 2011 (BST)

Change Username

Hi Gboyers, can you change my username to Samsonius.--Mizu (talk) 00:07, 21 August 2011 (BST)

On second thought nevermind, sorry to bother you.--Mizu (talk) 21:21, 21 August 2011 (BST)
Okay, false alarm I didn't want to change it because of another user at Wikia has the same username, I am 100% sure I want it change my username into Salubri.--Mizu (talk) 07:20, 28 August 2011 (BST)


Hi Gboyers, I was wondering what kind of skin the Grand Theft Wiki has?--Mizu (talk) 00:46, 24 August 2011 (BST)


Earlier tonight, I made the catergory Category:LCPD, but when I added it to articles, only 1 of them showed up. Any way to fix this? Bacon777 11:48, 24 August 2011 (BST)

Image Problem

Hi Gboyers, do you know why the image type bmp. is illegal here?--Mizu (talk) 03:00, 27 August 2011 (BST)

I've been having problems with my laptop, every images I saved ends up a .BMP, and how do I convert it into PNG/JPG/SVG?--Mizu (talk) 03:02, 29 August 2011 (BST)
Thanks a bunch :),--Mizu (talk) 14:58, 29 August 2011 (BST)

The GTA Place Account

Hey GBoyers, My account on The GTA Place is MrLanceVanceDance.Also, feel free to talk to me via my talk page if theyou wish to discuss anything about the forum with me.Thanks.--MrLanceVanceDance 11:54, 27 August 2011 (BST)


Hey Gboyers, this sever you payed for, how much does it cost?--Mizu (talk) 04:38, 30 August 2011 (BST)

I see, just curious, knowing the money I was trying to create a Wiki just like this one.--Mizu (talk) 04:48, 30 August 2011 (BST)


Those accounts were created in order for me to contact you when I accidently change the skin of the Grand Theft Wiki in my preference.--Mizu (talk) 05:06, 30 August 2011 (BST)

Sorry about those accounts.--Mizu (talk) 05:36, 30 August 2011 (BST)


"In my opinion, their rules are rubbish and the staff are pretty awful", how are the rules of the GTA Wiki rubbish, we prefer to have a source for info that were not sure about, that makes sense, and the staff aren't awful at all. If you want a user like Greg then fine but I think you should do a little more research on him and why he was really blocked. The Tom 17:19, 30 August 2011 (BST)

The Tom

What is with him? Sticking his nose where it isn't wanted? I know we probably have a clash of personalities, but I can live with that, he scared someone's gonna bring him to task? Shouldn't be a moderator if that's his attitude, Gboyers thank you for your reply to me also, could you kindly tell The Tom to go and make love to himself and not put his nastiness where it's not wanted, him, Dan the Man 1983 and McJeff, they are like rats, I don't need them looking into me like I'm some sort of Ameba! It's internet bullying! Gregallz5

Sorry force of habit, been on their site too long, I got it from them, I thought that their website was this one with a different name, didn't know that they copied and pasted it, wow they were intelligent init?! Gregallz

What's their page and what's it all about and what's the beef between this one and the other one? Gregallz5

Could you kindly please tell The Tom that Maria Hickment and I share a flat with each other and have two lap tops so of course we're gonna have the same IP and not make me sound like someone with an altered ego! Gregallz5 22:46, 1 September 2011 (BST)

Yeah all I said was that I'm a book writer, I ghost wrote the last two Martina Cole books and the Keeping It Real book for Grace Dent's Diary of a Chav series, if it pleases or offends him, he'd just have to either A) get over it or B) not like that. Gregallz5 12:16, 2 September 2011 (BST)


Hey Gboyers. I probably should have introduced myself sooner, for obvious reasons... you probably know who I am, I'm a bureaucrat on the other GTAWikia. Talking to you and trying to come to some sort of understanding is something I've been meaning to do for a while but kept putting off because I know a lot of people here are angry at wikia and have a low opinion of the staff on my "imposter wiki".

First, much more so than when I started on that other wiki as an administrator, I understand and sympathize with your guys take on it. It's just that when your users make vandalism runs over on the other place, like User:Tommy-Vercetti did here it gets you into a fight mentality. I also think it's a little much to call all the staff over on the other place awful. WikisEditor was desysopped for the plagiarism and I've been strictly watching to make sure GTAWikia editors don't copy info from Grand Theft Wiki. as 4 the computance role u dnt have users over here whu writ liek this and get basic facts rong all tha tyme. I mean, I've seen you mention how much you hate that rule regularly, but we don't go around abusing it. In fact we've yet to block anyone for incompetence, it's just a safeguard against truly awful editors. Wikipedia itself sometimes bans editors due to competence, so it's not like it's a rule that we and only we have.

Anyway I came here today because of the way Gregallz5 has been causing trouble over here, thought I'd tell you the full story of what happened with him since he and Tom didn't. On the Gregallz5 account he got two warnings for incivility, then a three day block for calling someone a "stupid prick" in an edit summary. He immediately made a new account, GBTheWriter, and admitted it was him on its user page and "slagged off" the staff who blocked him, which I indefinitely blocked and extended the block on Gregallz5 to 2 weeks for block evasion. He then made a third account, TheRealLondonDeal doing the same thing he did on the second, which caused us to block Gregallz5 indefinitely. He made the Maria account, Tom asked for a checkuser from Wikia's staff and it came back positive, then it was blocked too.

So that's about it. You obviously don't have to agree with my opinions on running a wiki or my decision to edit the Wikia-hosted GTA Wiki, but I would ask you to please get my side on things before just writing me off as "awful". McJeff 21:27, 2 September 2011 (BST)


Hi Gboyers, I just thought I'd let you know that I've resigned as Bureaucrat of the GTA Wiki, I doubt you'll care too much but I thought I'd let you know just in case you needed to contact the GTA Wiki about something in the future. The Tom 23:57, 2 September 2011 (BST)

Couple things

First I made a page on GTA Wikia called GTA Wikia: Community split. I know you guys feel that the Wikia version is illegitimate and even illegal and so it's inadequate, but it's a long shot fairer than pretending nothing happened. I tried to represent your views as fairly and neutrally on that page as I could.

As for MrLanceVanceDance, he did leave two actual links to the Wikia website, on the talk pages of Bunnyjoke and Crescendospectredragon (the two recently desysopped users) apologizing for their alleged mistreatment and asking them to come over here. Bunnyjoke's debatable I suppose, the thought that C-dragon was mistreated is laughable since he never contributed and claimed it was because there was "nothing for him to do". However I disagree that not including a link makes what he did not spam, anyway. McJeff 20:12, 3 September 2011 (BST)

Left you a response on my talk page since probably multiple people are going to want to participate in that conversation and switching pages to follow a long conversation can get confusing. McJeff 05:07, 4 September 2011 (BST)

"Mizu101" is an impersonator

Hey man I'm sorry to trouble you with more drama but this is kind of important I think.

The user "Mizu101" on this wiki is impersonating a "Mizu101" who is still active on Wikia, and the culprit behind it is a user who's been in a nearly two-years-long ongoing dispute with me (it all started because I blocked him on Bully Wiki after I caught him anonymously vandalizing my userpage there). His primary username on Wikia last time I checked is 4th Hale, he's also The Quiet Man, Seth Tomasino, Old West, Goodfellas90, and probably a few others. I didn't go into further detail here because 4th Hale does this to amuse himself and I try to deny trolls attention, but if you need the details on the situation I can give them to you. I've also already informed the real Mizu101 on Wikia. Jeff (talk this way) / (stalk this way) 05:37, 4 September 2011 (BST)

I am not impersonating anyone, however since you brought up this trouble, I would like my username to be change.--Mizu (talk) 08:00, 4 September 2011 (BST)
Hello. I am Mizu101 from Wikia. As in, this one. Jeff contacted me on Wikia about this, as he has said. This 4th Hale (I'd prefer not to call him Mizu101) is a person who previously contacted a Wikia staff member in order to get my account on Wikia. After he was able to do this, he began changing a lot of things. When I contacted the same Wikia staff member, he apologized and said he made a big mistake and he gave me my account back after about 3 days. 4th Hale later admitted via e-mail that he had hacked my account. I later told the sysop at Bully Fanon Wiki about this. 4th Hale was globally blocked from Wikia for approximately a month, then somehow got unblocked (I don't know how).
Anyway, in our e-mail conversation, he said he really liked the username Mizu101. I just noticed yesterday that he had been using the username here and Wikipedia. I do have a problem with this. I do not care if he uses Mizu101 on other types of websites, but on wiki-based websites (such as this), people assume that a Mizu101 here is the same person as a Mizu101 on Wikia. And I would not like my reputation to be affected by 4th Hale. RealMizu101 14:33, 4 September 2011 (BST)
Also, based on this, I don't hate Wikia, I am not an Athiest, I am not 16, I don't own a PS3, I don't use Internet Explorer, my favorite game is not Bully (though I do like it), and if he does actually follow the Grand Theft Wiki Rules, he would not have missed number 5 which says "No sock-puppetry or user impersonation". RealMizu101 14:44, 4 September 2011 (BST)
And there's another person with the same username for goodness sake I am not impersonating anyone. as I said before since someone had just started this trouble and I am willing to have my username change.--Mizu (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2011 (BST)
You need to learn to read other people's messages before posting your own. I said "I do not care if he uses Mizu101 on other types of websites..." Yeah, there is a Twitter account Mizu101 and a YouTube account Mizu101, neither which are me, but they are not wiki-based websites. RealMizu101 16:11, 4 September 2011 (BST)
My last message was to McJeff.--Mizu (talk) 16:56, 4 September 2011 (BST)
That doesn't make my message irrelevant. RealMizu101 17:27, 4 September 2011 (BST)
Using Mizu's username may not necessarily be impersonation, but copying his avatar, signature, and even the "senior editor" banner he first posted on Bully Wiki a few years ago [1] is extremely bizarre. Of course, just about everything that 4th Hale has done over the last 2 years has been rather bizarre. Jeff (talk this way) / (stalk this way) 17:45, 4 September 2011 (BST)
1. He doesn't own that avatar, anyone can have it.
2. My sig is by far more different, in fact a user in Wikia had a similar situtation.
3. Yes everything I've done is bizzare.
4. I know you don't care on those other Mizu's on twitter and Youtube, however nobody owns a username--Mizu (talk) 18:02, 4 September 2011 (BST)

Okay guys, let's roll it back. The "real" Mizu101 (from Wikia) has never edited on GTW or GTAWiki, either before or after the move/split. This means that no contributions have been wrongly assigned to the "fake" Mizu101, who only registered here in July. Even though the "real" Mizu101 feels that they should be able to use their username on any wiki site, has has shown no intention to edit either GTW/GTAWiki, and as far as I am concerned, there has been no user impersonation.

  • For the "fake" Mizu101 (registered on GTW, with various accounts on Wikia), yes I'm happy to change your username here, but I will only do this once. I have already warned you that you are not permitted to use any multiple accounts, so I hope never to see any. Of course any imersonation of other users is very serious, but I see no evidence of it on this site. (What happens on Wikia is nothing to do with us). That said, we do always have the right to remove you if we feel necessary, but I believe we are much fairer than at Wikia (not lenient, but fair). What would you like your account renaming to?
  • For the "real" Mizu101 (registered on Wikia, but here is User:RealMizu101), I understand your position, but you've never edited on this wiki or the GTA Wiki, so although you possess the account on Wikia, you have no claim to it or any of the edits made by it here. The "fake" Mizu101 has agreed to change his username, so hopefully there will be no issues of 'impersonation' or 'copying' either. You're welcome to edit here, but I'd prefer it if nobody used the Mizu101 username, to avoid any confusion. I am not prepared to rename your account to Mizu101, as all of the edits made on this site under the Mizu101 name were made by the "fake" Mizu101, not you; and that would just make more confusion.
  • Jeff - thanks for the heads-up, but just to point out that this site is not a subsidiary of Wikia, and users on Wikia are not automatically entitled to the same username here. The only exception is where they made edits before the split, which were then imported into GTW under their username, and it's important that those edits as shown as theirs (not an imposters). That does not apply in this situation as Mizu101 never made any edits.

If you have any questions, let me know, but this is NOT the place to discuss the Wikia site, usernames on Wikia, blocks on Wikia or actions by their staff. This is a place to write about GTA games, and anyone who is here solely to disrupt, isn't welcome. gboyers talk 18:20, 4 September 2011 (BST)

I will not waste any more of your time then. I have no intention of editing here. I don't care if my username is changed, but I would prefer Mizu101 to not be used at all. RealMizu101 19:03, 4 September 2011 (BST)
Can you merge this account with my other one User:4th hale, knowing you have the rights.--Mizu (talk) 04:10, 5 September 2011 (BST)

Edit Request

Hey Gboyers,I have noticed that some of the pages (like the Move from Wikia page) have errors or need to be updated, but I cannot edit it. I was wondering if you can please give the inspectors the right to edit all pages on this wiki, except for pages limited to managers and/or executive managers only. --MrLanceVanceDance 10:52, 7 September 2011 (BST)

New Users

Hey Gboyers, I have got a suggestion for you regarding the new users of Grand Theft Wiki. Every time a new user account is created, include the box containing the rules of Grand Theft Wiki on the welcome template that you put on every new user's talk page. That way, you can inform them of the rules before they break them. Thoughts?--MrLanceVanceDance 10:59, 7 September 2011 (BST)

RE: Blocking

I think the blocking system is fine the way it is. I asked that question because I didn't want Grand Theft Wiki to be a harsh wiki at blocking, like what Wikia's GTA Wiki has become. My suggestion is that we should use a three-strike policy against spammers and vandals. So that way, the vandals/spammers have a chance to redeem themselves and actually help our cause, rather than go against us. That will then give us a forgiving and accepting reputation. Also, another thing, are the spammers, by any chance, from the same IP adress or are they completely different people?--MrLanceVanceDance 13:47, 14 September 2011 (BST)

No, I think Grand Theft WIki's blocking policy is fine the way it is and I agree with what you have said. However, are the recent spammers, by any chance, from the same IP adress or are they completely different people?--MrLanceVanceDance 06:55, 16 September 2011 (BST)

Edit summaries

Hey, just wondering if you know why the Edit Summaries on the recent changes page has decided to go missing? I've looked through my preferences but I haven't found anything to make them come back. --Andreaz1 16:42, 16 September 2011 (BST)

They re-appeared again yesterday, massive thanks for the help. (Again...) :) I have to say I don't know many people who listen to and are active within their community as much as you are, huge, massive and all other appropriate adjectives praise for that, thanks! --Andreaz1 20:54, 21 September 2011 (BST)


Why I can't upload an avatar? When I try to, I get this error:

Warning: Missing argument 1 for SpecialUploadAvatar::loadRequest(), called in /home/gtw/public_html/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php on line 177 and defined in /home/gtw/public_html/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/SpecialUploadAvatar.php on line 35

Fatal error: Call to a member function getUpload() on a non-object in /home/gtw/public_html/includes/upload/UploadFromFile.php on line 21

TheReaperHoldsOurHearts 16:02, 17 September 2011 (BST)


Are you sure we can have him here, he basicly cyber bully anyone.--4th hale (talk) 02:53, 21 September 2011 (BST)

Do keep this is mind that I don't seek out any trouble Gboyers!, since he reported my recent activities, I would like for you to know about his behaviour as so right here, that is all.--4th hale (talk) 19:36, 21 September 2011 (BST)
At this point I have to suggest that it does not appear to me that 4th hale has any intentions of editing this wiki constructively. Although there are a few minor edits in his early history to article trivia sections, he hasn't done any editing besides user talk pages since the beginning of August. His interactions consisted of celebrating some vandalism that User:Tommy-Vercetti did over on wikia, dealing with the whole Mizu101 situation. And - after having been inactive for two weeks - coming straight out of the blue to try and start more trouble with me. And trying to get Gregallz5 started back up.
Before you say it, I agree with you that people should be given a chance to start at a new wiki with a blank slate. And you're free to not care about or even not want to hear about his history on Wikia. But "trying to instigate a fight between two users and/or block-shopping on a user whom he has prior disagreement with" both sound like things that are against the rules here. Specifically, on Grand Theft Wiki:Behaviour, where it says that "hatred campaigns" are specifically not tolerated. Jeff (talk this way) / (stalk this way) 15:37, 22 September 2011 (BST)
Well Greg basicly isn't my conern, in fact I haven't got a clue what he said on my talk page, I'll admit my behaviour has been disruptive and so to McJeff and Gboyers I apologise. 4th hale (talk) 17:39, 22 September 2011 (BST)