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:{{Rebut}}GTA4 has three delays, and a huge updates.  Not the mention GTA4 is the first game to use the Euphoria system.  GTA has had huge improvements here.  All gripes on this page just complain about how little minigames there are.  Most minigames in GTASA were ignored by most players.
:{{Rebut}}GTA4 has three delays, and a huge updates.  Not the mention GTA4 is the first game to use the Euphoria system.  GTA has had huge improvements here.  All gripes on this page just complain about how little minigames there are.  Most minigames in GTASA were ignored by most players.
::{{Gripe}}Ignored by most players? where do you get that? GTA IV is a complete disgrace to realism by the sheer fact alone you kill about 100 people and the cops could never get you, even when you walk around in plane sight right afterwards.
::{{Gripe}}Ignored by most players? where do you get that? GTA IV is a complete disgrace to realism by the sheer fact alone you kill about 100 people and the cops could never get you, even when you walk around in plane sight right afterwards.
:::{{Rebut}} ok how about you kill less than 20 people and you will get a 6 star wanted level (That would happen in the real life) and when you can't escape and the police shoot you a lot and you die, but how you like so much the realism you die forever (that would happen in the real life) and you lost all your progress and start a new story and do all over againg, do you like it? it's that enough realism?  
:::{{Rebut}} ok how about you kill less than 20 people and you will get a 6 star wanted level (That would happen in the real life) and when you can't escape and the police shoot you a lot and you die, but how you like so much the realism you die forever (that would happen in the real life) and you lost all your progress and you have to start a new story and do all over again, do you like it? it's that enough realism?  
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{{Gripe}}Aiming is difficult when slow-mo is activated during driving and flying thanks to the cinematic angles.
{{Gripe}}Aiming is difficult when slow-mo is activated during driving and flying thanks to the cinematic angles.
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:::{{Rebut}}Isn't everything that can be done in GTA4 illegal?  And who would want to spend 30K on a car that they can just steal?
:::{{Rebut}}Isn't everything that can be done in GTA4 illegal?  And who would want to spend 30K on a car that they can just steal?
::::{{Gripe}}Purchasing would be a good way to include personalization: if you could choose sertain specifications for a car, paintjobs, engine types, and options to create cars unique cars that aren't found on the street.
::::{{Gripe}}Purchasing would be a good way to include personalization: if you could choose sertain specifications for a car, paintjobs, engine types, and options to create cars unique cars that aren't found on the street.
:::::{{Rebut}}1. why buy if you can steal it, everything in this game is illegal and agaisnt the law. 2. you put a gripe where doesn't fit, the car tunning or modding is in Vehicles Gripes there will be answer your question.
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{{Gripe}} Somethings in the game bothers me since they are transitioning GTA games to be more realistic.  Whats the purpose of all those big buildings and you can't access them or destroy them. And how come when you blow up people they fly backward or upward? From what I've seen when you shoot a rocket or throw a grenade at somebody, limbs suppose to come off...i mean in previous GTA games when you shoot somebody in the head with a powerful weapon it disappears. Wassup with that?
{{Gripe}} Somethings in the game bothers me since they are transitioning GTA games to be more realistic.  Whats the purpose of all those big buildings and you can't access them or destroy them. And how come when you blow up people they fly backward or upward? From what I've seen when you shoot a rocket or throw a grenade at somebody, limbs suppose to come off...i mean in previous GTA games when you shoot somebody in the head with a powerful weapon it disappears. Wassup with that?
:{{Rebut}} They wanted to keep the M Rating on this game. GTA IV looks much more realistic as Vice City or SA did. In fact, Vice City and SA looked a bit like a comic to me.
:{{Rebut}} They wanted to keep the M Rating on this game. GTA IV looks much more realistic as Vice City or SA did. In fact, Vice City and SA looked a bit like a comic to me.
::{{Gripe}}Well in real life these things do happen, why change something to be more real like m aking the hand-brake screw you up so much but take away real-life stuff like limbs being ripped off when the game is ment to be violent from the start, not a drive-test simulator.
::{{Gripe}}Well in real life these things do happen, why change something to be more real like m aking the hand-brake screw you up so much but take away real-life stuff like limbs being ripped off when the game is ment to be violent from the start, not a drive-test simulator.
:::{{Rebut}}that gripe is already answer above. You blow up a building you break the game.
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{{Gripe}} How come you can't play basketball on the courts in Algonquin?
{{Gripe}} How come you can't play basketball on the courts in Algonquin?
:{{Rebut}}For me, playing basketball was just an useless timekiller, like the arcade games or the gym. It doesn't really alter the gameplay.
:{{Rebut}}For me, playing basketball was just an useless timekiller, like the arcade games or the gym. It doesn't really alter the gameplay.
::{{Gripe}} there are still arcades in this game, why keep the simple video-games-within-a-video-game but loose the more creative minigames?
::{{Gripe}} there are still arcades in this game, why keep the simple video-games-within-a-video-game but loose the more creative minigames?
:::{{Rebut}} Because doesn't AFFECTS the gameplay, also i wouldn't see niko playing basketball he will be terrible.
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{{Gripe}}Wouldnt it be nice if you could destroy those bridges and cause havoc? All you have to do is drive off to a differnt area and come back and the bridge would be right there. But not only the bridges, the buildings as well.
{{Gripe}}Wouldnt it be nice if you could destroy those bridges and cause havoc? All you have to do is drive off to a differnt area and come back and the bridge would be right there. But not only the bridges, the buildings as well.
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:::{{Rebut}}It's not important to gameplay and it would be rather annoying after some time, or even deadly in a police chase.
:::{{Rebut}}It's not important to gameplay and it would be rather annoying after some time, or even deadly in a police chase.
::::{{Gripe}}Of coarse it would be deadly ''just like in real life'', there are annoying things in the game based off realism that they did keep, like the insanely annoying hand-brake
::::{{Gripe}}Of coarse it would be deadly ''just like in real life'', there are annoying things in the game based off realism that they did keep, like the insanely annoying hand-brake
::::{{DOESN'T AFFECTS THE GAMEPLAY}}
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{{Gripe}}You can't order anything at Tw@ internet. There is nothing you can do to purchase anything, except ringtones (which plays a small part to this feature).
{{Gripe}}You can't order anything at Tw@ internet. There is nothing you can do to purchase anything, except ringtones (which plays a small part to this feature).
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:::{{Rebut}}Why would you want to spend all of your hard earned money on stuff you will never use again?
:::{{Rebut}}Why would you want to spend all of your hard earned money on stuff you will never use again?
::::{{Gripe}} why keep the unlimited amount of money you have sitting uselessly as a figure in the corner of your screen?
::::{{Gripe}} why keep the unlimited amount of money you have sitting uselessly as a figure in the corner of your screen?
:::::{{Rebut}} Because niko want's to make money so he can't get in broke and he must not waste all his money in useleess stuff, the main story line has to end by you being rich and all "useless" money it's what niko needs to live his life.
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{{Gripe}}The ability to operate cranes (like in [[GTA: SA]]) is no longer possible, which means you can't lift vehicles with magnets, or hit vehicles or peds with wrecking balls.
{{Gripe}}The ability to operate cranes (like in [[GTA: SA]]) is no longer possible, which means you can't lift vehicles with magnets, or hit vehicles or peds with wrecking balls.
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:::{{Rebut}}And the point of doing that is what?  Nothing.
:::{{Rebut}}And the point of doing that is what?  Nothing.
::::{{Gripe}} he just said FUN what games are ment to be not drive-test/murder simulators
::::{{Gripe}} he just said FUN what games are ment to be not drive-test/murder simulators
:::::{{Rebut}} If that it's fun, it's make me sad that some people like that, and this page it's about GAMEPLAY not fun.
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{{Gripe}} the choppers handled better in GTA:SA
{{Gripe}} the choppers handled better in GTA:SA
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:{{Rebut}}First, flying planes was taken out because Liberty City can be traveled incredibly fast with even a helicopter, in a plane, you would be gone very fast.  Second, all GTA games are like that, that is the point, help your allies, kill your enemies.  Third, that last gripe doesn't make any sense.  I was barely able to understand the first two.
:{{Rebut}}First, flying planes was taken out because Liberty City can be traveled incredibly fast with even a helicopter, in a plane, you would be gone very fast.  Second, all GTA games are like that, that is the point, help your allies, kill your enemies.  Third, that last gripe doesn't make any sense.  I was barely able to understand the first two.
::{{Gripe}}The third Gripe is completely valid streetlights can fall over by you just tapping them but a tree no more then 2 inches in diameter can stop an tank or any other vehicle dead in its tracks bearing down at it at speeds 100mph+!!!
::{{Gripe}}The third Gripe is completely valid streetlights can fall over by you just tapping them but a tree no more then 2 inches in diameter can stop an tank or any other vehicle dead in its tracks bearing down at it at speeds 100mph+!!!
:::{{Rebut}} Are you serious?? you two have to get some english lessons.
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{{Gripe}}There is a deplorable selection of hats(filthy trucker cap, or silly winter Russian hats in a warm liberty City environment), you can't change Nikos hair at all, you cant shave his ratty, scummy beard. All of which are perfectly possible in short amounts of time in "real life" except growing longer hair.
{{Gripe}}There is a deplorable selection of hats(filthy trucker cap, or silly winter Russian hats in a warm liberty City environment), you can't change Nikos hair at all, you cant shave his ratty, scummy beard. All of which are perfectly possible in short amounts of time in "real life" except growing longer hair.
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