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Handling line

I have made an experiment : I put the handling line named "SWAT" (in GTA IV) with another vehicle to show the way the handling is. And that vehicle was rather fast. So I've compared this handling line with some other lines, and I've discovered that the most resembling line was the Ambulance. Could a tank only weigh 2500 kgs ? Was that "SWAT" meant to be a SWAT Van ??--Loadingue 17:13, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it's a small SWAT truck based on an ambulance/box truck chassis, just typing "swat truck" on Google Images gets a few.--Thescarydude 17:27, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
So you're ageeing that "SWAT" is not referring to a tank ?--Loadingue 18:01, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
If what you say is true, yes.--Thescarydude 20:03, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
It is, so I'm going to remove the "Grand Theft Auto IV" section.--Loadingue 13:51, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Replace pictures

I think, when someone got time, should replace the pictures of the APC, they rip-off from other sides and bad quaility, unfortunately I have the PS3 version of TBoGT.

Error in first paragraph

The first paragraph states that the APC is "the first appearance of an armored land vehicle since Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas." This is incorrect because the Rhino appeared in LCS and VCS. Unless that sentence is referring to the SWAT Tank in GTASA, the statement is wrong. -- Rickissocool5 19:31, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

It could be more likely to be refering to the SWAT Tank, as a tank isn't strickly speaking a APC. VladdyBoy, Sept 15 2010

What the APC is based off.

I also believed the APC was based off a Cadillac Gage Commando variant, but with further research it's really based off the Soviet BRDM-2. It may still have some design characteristics from the Cadillac Gage Commando, but it definately resembles the BRDM-2 much more. Both vehicles are actually quite similar. -- User:CryptReaperDorian2

Id say that the APC was based on the Cadillac Gage Commando if you look closely you can see that the Cadillac Gage Commando has a small hatch like the APC at the back and it has that angled bent at the back as well as the large cannon on topSOLID KEn 10:15, July 5, 2010 (UTC)


Does the cheat work on the original version of GTA 4 - Matt98 18:41 11 July 2010

No,becaues there are no APC files in the Game


The 8th point in the trivia sectin makes very little sense. Could someone clean it up, please? Sgt. S.S. 11:22, 6 June 2011 (BST)