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==Naming changes==
==Naming changes==


I would like to recommend that this article be moved to either [[Grand Theft Auto (series)]] or [[Grand Theft Auto series]] and that the article [[Grand Theft Auto 1]] be moved right here, [[Grand Theft Auto]]. The original Grand Theft Auto does not have number "1" as the suffix, hence my recommendation. Any objections? --[[User:Chief of Staff|Legion]] 01:12, 30 April 2007 (BST)
I would like to recommend that this article be moved to either [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto (series)]] or [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto series]] and that the article [[Grand Theft Auto 1]] be moved right here, [[Grand Theft Auto]]. The original Grand Theft Auto does not have number "1" as the suffix, hence my recommendation. Any objections? --[[User:Chief of Staff|Legion]] 01:12, 30 April 2007 (BST)


:I object. I chose to do it this way because [[GTA]] is what we do all the way through the site to tell people about Grand Theft Auto (the series) and what it is and what is in it. Grand Theft Auto (series) isn't as simple. Not as many people want to view the page about GTA1, but that is still easy to find because it is known as "GTA1" because it's the first GTA. Also, if we are referring to which game [[Liberty City]] was featured in, saying "Grand Theft Auto" is slightly confusing (they're all featured in GTAs), so we say it was in GTA1. Just keeps things all the same having it as "Grand Theft Auto, known as GTA 1." Yes - technically you are right, however I would choose to use [[Grand Theft Auto (game)]] for GTA1 rather than move [[GTA]]. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[Sysop|Admin]]) [[User talk:Xenon|talk]] 07:27, 30 April 2007 (BST)
:I object. I chose to do it this way because [[Grand Theft Auto|GTA]] is what we do all the way through the site to tell people about Grand Theft Auto (the series) and what it is and what is in it. Grand Theft Auto (series) isn't as simple. Not as many people want to view the page about GTA1, but that is still easy to find because it is known as "GTA1" because it's the first GTA. Also, if we are referring to which game [[Liberty City]] was featured in, saying "Grand Theft Auto" is slightly confusing (they're all featured in GTAs), so we say it was in GTA1. Just keeps things all the same having it as "Grand Theft Auto, known as GTA 1." Yes - technically you are right, however I would choose to use [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto (game)]] for GTA1 rather than move [[Grand Theft Auto|GTA]]. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[Sysop|Admin]]) [[User talk:Xenon|talk]] 07:27, 30 April 2007 (BST)


::Sounds like you're suggesting this page ought to be turned into a disambiguation page with links to one for series and one for game....? Or are you suggesting that this page ought to stay and the article about original Grand Theft Auto ought to be moved to [[Grand Theft Auto (game)]]? --[[User:Chief of Staff|Legion]] 08:40, 30 April 2007 (BST)
::Sounds like you're suggesting this page ought to be turned into a disambiguation page with links to one for series and one for game....? Or are you suggesting that this page ought to stay and the article about original Grand Theft Auto ought to be moved to [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto (game)]]? --[[User:Chief of Staff|Legion]] 08:40, 30 April 2007 (BST)


:I think we should just leave it as it is, where [[GTA]] refers to ''all'' GTA games, and where [[GTA 1]] refers to the first GTA game. That's simple enough for everyone to understand, and easy enough to find what you want. The "do you mean..." line at the top is good enough to redirect people who make a mistake. I don't want to say "The GTA Series" every time I say "GTA" on this wiki. I veto any changes. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[Sysop|Admin]]) [[User talk:Xenon|talk]] 08:58, 30 April 2007 (BST)
:I think we should just leave it as it is, where [[Grand Theft Auto|GTA]] refers to ''all'' GTA games, and where [[Grand Theft Auto 1|GTA 1]] refers to the first GTA game. That's simple enough for everyone to understand, and easy enough to find what you want. The "do you mean..." line at the top is good enough to redirect people who make a mistake. I don't want to say "The GTA Series" every time I say "GTA" on this wiki. I veto any changes. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[Sysop|Admin]]) [[User talk:Xenon|talk]] 08:58, 30 April 2007 (BST)


Okay, understood. This red link you gave me, [[Grand Theft Auto (game)]].... does this need to be redirect or something? Thanks. --[[User:Chief of Staff|Legion]] 13:14, 30 April 2007 (BST)
Okay, understood. This red link you gave me, [[Grand Theft Auto|Grand Theft Auto (game)]].... does this need to be redirect or something? Thanks. --[[User:Chief of Staff|Legion]] 13:14, 30 April 2007 (BST)
 
You can redirect it to [[Grand Theft Auto]]. Unless Xenon wants to redirect it to somewhere else. [[User:George|George]] 08:42, 1 May 2007 (BST)
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I think it should be called "grand theft auto series" to prevent confusion with "GTA1" [[User:MiloBellic|MiloBellic]] 02:39, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
I totally agree, this should be moved to "Grand Theft Auto series". --[[User:DT-boy|DT-boy]] 14:16, 25 October 2010 (BST)
 
:I understand your view, but I still disagree. Most people associate "Grand Theft Auto" with the series of games and the franchise, rather than the 1998 game "Grand Theft Auto". Whenever I refer to that first game, I would ''always'' say GTA 1, never GTA. Everyone understands this. Anyone looking for the GTA 1 game who comes to this page would understand and easily find the correct page. If we changed it, we would confuse more people (who were looking for the series but found the first game) than leaving it as it currently is. Also, it is much easier to type <nowiki>[[GTA]] or [[Grand Theft Auto]] than [[Grand Theft Auto (series)]] every time, and [[GTA 1]] or [[Grand Theft Auto 1]] is not much harder</nowiki>. However, I do take your point that some people may expect to find the GTA 1 game here. This is why the disambiguation is right at the top of the page. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] 19:48, 25 October 2010 (BST)
 
== Can we improve this page ==
 
People searching for Grand Theft Auto on a search engine will often end up on this page before any other. How can we improve this page (the first thing they see) to ensure they find/visit other parts of the wiki? Currently it's just boring text and a few random links scattered around, and not a very good first impression. Any thoughts? [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 09:03, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
:One thing we can do is ditch the general navbox at the bottom, since it's redundant (because we already have the contents section; that template should be intended for other articles with don't have this support), making it short and less confusing to newbies. Images for links in the content section would also draw in readers better (as the [[w:c:fallout:Main Page|Fallout]] and [[w:c:halflife:Main Page|Half-Life]] wikis have demonstrated). - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:21, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:48, 25 October 2010

Naming changes

I would like to recommend that this article be moved to either Grand Theft Auto (series) or Grand Theft Auto series and that the article Grand Theft Auto 1 be moved right here, Grand Theft Auto. The original Grand Theft Auto does not have number "1" as the suffix, hence my recommendation. Any objections? --Legion 01:12, 30 April 2007 (BST)

I object. I chose to do it this way because GTA is what we do all the way through the site to tell people about Grand Theft Auto (the series) and what it is and what is in it. Grand Theft Auto (series) isn't as simple. Not as many people want to view the page about GTA1, but that is still easy to find because it is known as "GTA1" because it's the first GTA. Also, if we are referring to which game Liberty City was featured in, saying "Grand Theft Auto" is slightly confusing (they're all featured in GTAs), so we say it was in GTA1. Just keeps things all the same having it as "Grand Theft Auto, known as GTA 1." Yes - technically you are right, however I would choose to use Grand Theft Auto (game) for GTA1 rather than move GTA. Xenon (Admin) talk 07:27, 30 April 2007 (BST)
Sounds like you're suggesting this page ought to be turned into a disambiguation page with links to one for series and one for game....? Or are you suggesting that this page ought to stay and the article about original Grand Theft Auto ought to be moved to Grand Theft Auto (game)? --Legion 08:40, 30 April 2007 (BST)
I think we should just leave it as it is, where GTA refers to all GTA games, and where GTA 1 refers to the first GTA game. That's simple enough for everyone to understand, and easy enough to find what you want. The "do you mean..." line at the top is good enough to redirect people who make a mistake. I don't want to say "The GTA Series" every time I say "GTA" on this wiki. I veto any changes. Xenon (Admin) talk 08:58, 30 April 2007 (BST)

Okay, understood. This red link you gave me, Grand Theft Auto (game).... does this need to be redirect or something? Thanks. --Legion 13:14, 30 April 2007 (BST)

You can redirect it to Grand Theft Auto. Unless Xenon wants to redirect it to somewhere else. George 08:42, 1 May 2007 (BST)


I think it should be called "grand theft auto series" to prevent confusion with "GTA1" MiloBellic 02:39, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

I totally agree, this should be moved to "Grand Theft Auto series". --DT-boy 14:16, 25 October 2010 (BST)

I understand your view, but I still disagree. Most people associate "Grand Theft Auto" with the series of games and the franchise, rather than the 1998 game "Grand Theft Auto". Whenever I refer to that first game, I would always say GTA 1, never GTA. Everyone understands this. Anyone looking for the GTA 1 game who comes to this page would understand and easily find the correct page. If we changed it, we would confuse more people (who were looking for the series but found the first game) than leaving it as it currently is. Also, it is much easier to type [[GTA]] or [[Grand Theft Auto]] than [[Grand Theft Auto (series)]] every time, and [[GTA 1]] or [[Grand Theft Auto 1]] is not much harder. However, I do take your point that some people may expect to find the GTA 1 game here. This is why the disambiguation is right at the top of the page. Gboyers 19:48, 25 October 2010 (BST)

Can we improve this page

People searching for Grand Theft Auto on a search engine will often end up on this page before any other. How can we improve this page (the first thing they see) to ensure they find/visit other parts of the wiki? Currently it's just boring text and a few random links scattered around, and not a very good first impression. Any thoughts? Gboyers talk 09:03, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

One thing we can do is ditch the general navbox at the bottom, since it's redundant (because we already have the contents section; that template should be intended for other articles with don't have this support), making it short and less confusing to newbies. Images for links in the content section would also draw in readers better (as the Fallout and Half-Life wikis have demonstrated). - ZS 10:21, November 26, 2009 (UTC)