Talk:Liberty City in GTA IV Era

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Infobox

I know a lot of people like to use infoboxes for everything, but I'm beginning to see them used on a few too many pages. I use them where they replace a large amount of text that is easier displayed in a table - such as numeric data, and large collections of important facts.

The the mayor, population and motto is a very small amount of information, and is a lot easier to express in a sentence - which also gives you the opportunity to expand and explain Alderney State and City (and there might be more cities later). People don't come to this page purely to find any of that information, so there's no point putting it in a prominent infobox (information box).

  • {{infobox mission}} shows a good selection of basic facts (who, where, when, reward, unlocks, unlocked by, fail) which people want to know quickly without reading through too much text - a perfect use of an infobox.
  • {{Infobox gang}} has a lot of little facts, which is good - but only for big gangs.
  • The infobox on Patriot only shows how many doors (slightly useful), the games it is in (useful), and what the vehicle is based on (not useful) - that doesn't warrant a whole infobox to me (which is why I never made one for businesses).
  • {{infobox places}} only shows location (which will often be multiple) and associated people (which varies wildly), and again this would be much better in a sentence or two, as I have mentioned before.
  • {{infobox character}} is potentially useful, but only for a few people for whom we have a lot of information.

There is no specific policy on use of infoboxes, so what do you think? Gboyers talk 10:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I can understand your reasoning, but I actually like the idea of infoboxes for pages. It allows for a consistency, so that (if we establish consistent use of infoboxes across similar pages) all character pages would be immediately identified as characters, all businesses could immediately be identified as businesses, etc. It shouldn't be monotonous, but, for example, the number of doors should be in exactly the same place on all pages, no matter which vehicle or game. Don't get me wrong, we still need the sentence-form description, and I actually don't think the infobox should replace any information at all (at least on the types of pages I'm thinking about), only organize some of it so that it's in a uniform location on the pages across the wiki. Just my initial thoughts. --GuildKnightTalk2me 04:40, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Motto

I thought that Liberty City in GTA III Era was the "Worst Place in America". Isn't LC in IV just "The Land of Opportunity?" Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 05:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I've neber heard the first one in IV. Not sure if the second one is the "official" motto, or just what it is known as by a few people. Perhaps there is another nickname like a variation on the "Big Apple"? Gboyers talk 05:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, you're right. I've heard Land of Opportunity in the real world, just referring to America in general. I can't recall anything else used in IV, but I think if we used the second it would be better then the first (and current). Thoughts? Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 05:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Don't write anything unless you can explain where you got it from, and why it is applicable - Gboyers talk 05:29, 8 January 2009 (UTC)