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Is Luis' association with the gang ever stated? It seems like Armando and Henrique just work for themselves. [[User:Hugo Stiglitz|Hugo Stiglitz]] 04:36, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
Is Luis' association with the gang ever stated? It seems like Armando and Henrique just work for themselves. [[User:Hugo Stiglitz|Hugo Stiglitz]] 04:36, December 29, 2009 (UTC)


His association with the Northwood Domicans is something from his past, as he used to work for Oscar and [[Alonso Gomez]], but was arrested, during the events of The Ballad of Gay Tony, Luis only works with the NDs through [[Armando]] and [[Henrique Bardas]], but then they disban from the NDs and start their own drug buisiniess, hence the minigame [[Drug Wars]]. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 23:53, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
His association with the Northwood Domicans is something from his past, as he used to work for Oscar and [[Alonso Gomez]], but was arrested, during the events of The Ballad of Gay Tony, Luis only works with the NDs through [[Armando Torres|Armando]] and [[Henrique Bardas]], but then they disban from the NDs and start their own drug buisiniess, hence the minigame [[Drug Wars]]. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 23:53, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
==Also Known As:==
==Also Known As:==
I just wanted to state that '''Mr. Big Shot '''and '''Captain Downtown '''are '''NOT '''nicknames for Luis, they're simply insults that are only said one time in the storyline by Armando. Neither of them are a considered alias. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 02:04, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
I just wanted to state that '''Mr. Big Shot '''and '''Captain Downtown '''are '''NOT '''nicknames for Luis, they're simply insults that are only said one time in the storyline by Armando. Neither of them are a considered alias. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 02:04, February 1, 2010 (UTC)


But Lou can't be a nickname too, it's just mistake of Mori and something like gay slang of Tony. Armando called Luis Captain Downtown and Mr Big Shot few times during the game and could called him like this in conversations with some street criminals and Henrique. I'm pretty sure they call him like this between each other. It's nickname of Luis given by haters. And Lou is just personal reference of Tony. Nobody on the streets know Luis as Lou. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 02:24, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
But Lou can't be a nickname too, it's just mistake of Mori and something like gay slang of Tony. Armando called Luis Captain Downtown and Mr Big Shot few times during the game and could called him like this in conversations with some street criminals and Henrique. I'm pretty sure they call him like this between each other. It's nickname of Luis given by haters. And Lou is just personal reference of Tony. Nobody on the streets know Luis as Lou. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 02:24, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
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And you know, I don't think, that we have to arguing about this kind of fact. We have to put as much as possible information about Luis on this page, so there is no need to delete something. Especially if this is not absolutely wrong and has opportunity for arguing. Thanks in advance. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 02:37, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
And you know, I don't think, that we have to arguing about this kind of fact. We have to put as much as possible information about Luis on this page, so there is no need to delete something. Especially if this is not absolutely wrong and has opportunity for arguing. Thanks in advance. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 02:37, February 1, 2010 (UTC)


:Alright, I'll try to explain this in the most simple way possible. "Mr. Big Shot" and "Captain Downtown" are insults BECAUSE Armando is insinuating that Luis thinks himself a big shot, and thinks he's better then Armando and Henrique. [[Vlad Glebov]] calls [[Niko Bellic]] a yokel many times, and yokel is not a nickname. For example, if I called you '''Mr. Argumentive '''on occasion, that wouldn't be your nickname, that would be an insult, because all you do is fuel these arguments. Also, neither you, nor anyone else has any idea what Armando and Henrique call Luis behind his back, so there is no evidence of that in any way, you're just looking for things to add. Now onto "L", "Lou", and "Louie". Take [[Carl Johnson]] for example. He is also known as [[Carl Johnson|CJ]], because it's an alias. [[Gay Tony]] calls Luis "Lou" for short, but when he says "Lou" he's still talking '''to''' [[Luis Fernando Lopez]], '''not insulting '''him. Armando and Henrique call him "L" for short, and foriegn people (Such as [[Yusuf Amir]] and [[Ray Bulgarin]]) call him Louis, because they're under the assumption that is his name, therefore he is also known as that. So if there are any words in here you didn't understand, look them up, and quit arguing with me about these things, I'm getting tired of it. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 02:56, February 1, 2010 (UTC)


[arguments removed]


:Alright, I'll try to explain this in the most simple way possible. "Mr. Big Shot" and "Captain Downtown" are insults BECAUSE Armando is insinuating that Luis thinks himself a big shot, and thinks he's better then Armando and Henrique. [[Vlad Glebov]] calls [[Niko Bellic]] a yokel many times, and yokel is not a nickname. For example, if I called you '''Mr. Argumentive '''on occasion, that wouldn't be your nickname, that would be an insult, because all you do is fuel these arguments. Also, neither you, nor anyone else has any idea what Armando and Henrique call Luis behind his back, so there is no evidence of that in any way, you're just looking for things to add. Now onto "L", "Lou", and "Louie". Take [[Carl Johnson]] for example. He is also known as [[CJ]], because it's an alias. [[Gay Tony]] calls Luis "Lou" for short, but when he says "Lou" he's still talking '''to''' [[Luis Fernando Lopez]], '''not insulting '''him. Armando and Henrique call him "L" for short, and foriegn people (Such as [[Yusuf Amir]] and [[Ray Bulgarin]]) call him Louis, because they're under the assumption that is his name, therefore he is also known as that. So if there are any words in here you didn't understand, look them up, and quit arguing with me about these things, I'm getting tired of it. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 02:56, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
Edit wars are completely against the policy of GTW, so I'm glad you have taken it to the talk page. However, arguing really doesn't help the situation in any way. Personal insults doesn't help decide what to put on the wiki page, so just STOP as soon as the argument descends into that and get [[Staff]] to step in. For those of you who are not now blocked, I strongly suggest you reach a compromise. For example, mentioning the sort-of-nicknames in the Trivia section rather than the first sentence. This keeps the wiki clean and tidy, accurate, and containing all the information everyone wants. Do this to all the articles you guys have been fighting over. If any further wars or arguments happen, further action will be taken. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
 


If you will call me Mr. Argumentive all the time, it will be my nickname for all GTWiki users, because it shows my style of work with GTWiki. Just as "Mr Big Shot" shows style and kind of Luis' criminal work. It looks like nickname more, than just mistake of Ray or Yusuf. This is the street name of Luis, not just spelling misunderstanding. There are many situations in the world's history, when nickname was given because of insult. Look at Ethelred the Unready. He was king of England and he wasn't ready for this, so history remembers him as Ethelred the Unready. Luis was just a hoodlum, but became a big time, when left friends behind. Streets will remember him as Captain Downtown. What's your problem, man? If you tired to arguing and deleting - stop do it and make us both little more happy. Much love. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 03:09, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
: This site isn't so much as an encyclopedia as it is an insult board for immaturity to thrive on. I understand why, because a lot of kids see this as a game they can learn bad words and bad behavior from. It feels to me like there's alot of censorship going on that's sprouted out of ignorance. If you have a problem or you're uncomfortable with the amount of AKAs and nicknames the 3 protagonists from Grand Theft Auto IV have, perhaps you should take a step back and revert to editting the GTA3 articles, where the protagonist didn't have a real name, only AKAs and nicknames.[[User:D16x|D16x]] 18:52, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


:Wow, I can't handle trying to explain things to you because obviously you have the thickest skull of anyone I've ever met. I'll make this in bold so maybe your stupidity can comprehend the message. Are you ready? Read closely. '''Here's a quote from you: '''"If you will call me Mr. Argumentive all the time, it will be my nickname". '''I called you Mr. Argumentive once, therefore it's not your nickname. Armando doesn't call Luis Mr. Bigshot and Captain Downtown all the time. Therefore it's not a nickname nor an alias. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. '''I don't understand how you can't understand this... I'm baffled. Or maybe you're not an idiot, maybe you're just continuously trying to anger me so I can slip a cuss word at you and get my banned? Or maybe you want these edit wars to happen to get my kicked off. Grow up kid. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 03:26, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
== His "tiny hose"? ==
: I should add the fact that now we both look like lifeless losers for arguing about something so dumb. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 03:27, February 1, 2010 (UTC)


Okay, I am so confused about how people in the game constantly say that he has a tiny penis. I have two reasons that go against this.
1) he screws women a lot and constant intercorse can cause your junk to grow
2) as popular culture says, black men have larger hoses than white men
So, really, I don't know where they're all getting this idea from!!


Wow, man, there is no need to be so angry! You called me stupid, idiot, lifeless loser, dumb, kid and all these insults have not no evidence, just like all your notes! Man, you just like to beat down on novice in this portal, I see it. No disrespect, but you got to chill out. We are in discussion topic, but I can't see no discussion in your messages, it's just tryings of angry man to offend me. In real life you got to be hit for all this words, but this is just internet and the best way to solve this problem is stop arguing for me and go relax for you. Sorry, man, but I'll keep edit this article. No discussions with you no more, you're just one rough person. I know, you act like cool guy because everyone here know and respect you and I can understand it. But this way for discussions is the shortest way to lose all your respect. Think about it, man, and stop shout. Peace and love. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 03:38, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
:Do you really believe that every single black man in the world has a large "hose"? Popular culture says on average there's a slight trend. It's entirely possible that Louis is lacking in the trouser department. I'd trust the people he's slept with more than an average. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:08, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
"I'd trust the people he's slept with more than an average." - Exactly. Actually, Luis is more hispanic, than african-american. There are few mentions of his tiny hose in game, so it starts to look freaky for me. I think, that we gotta write about it in trivia section.[[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 23:43, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


And you know, I will not edit this article no more. I can see your point, so you might be right. If this is so important for you - I can understand it and go away. My point is just a point and your point is part of your life. I just like GTA and try to put all information together. You disagree - OK. Delete it and forgot. I'm nobody to destroy your nervous system. But please, man, don't try to do something like that with some other novice, not me. Somebody could be really shocked. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 03:44, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
1) I hear steroids do funny things to your balls. 2) He's Dominican, not black.[[User:ChanJaoming|ChanJaoming]] 23:47, February 17, 2010 (UTC)


:I'm just having a bad week. I know I shouldn't get so angry about a GTA Wiki article, but my bad mood doesn't help. So I apoligize for that. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 04:01, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
It is made clear that he has a small hose, either by steroids or natural, Joni asks "do steroids shrink your balls or were they always like that? She sometimes says things complimeting Luis' upper body, but then saying "shame about the little man." As well as a few others.


I think it is safe to say that he has small genitals - i dont recall one mention of his penis that is a compliment in size. Funny talk guys though XD [[User:Raggi Boy|Raggi Boy]]


The different between discussion and arguing is mood. Don't let your emotions in editing GTWiki, it ends bad. Be wise and keep your heart hot and your mind cool, like in KGB. Good luck. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 15:02, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
==Luis is the least favorite character?==


:Thanks Ghandi. Now for future references in future articles, try and understand that not "as much information as possible" should be put into the articles, (I'm talking about the [[Henrique Bardas]] page. Because if that was so, then every article would be full of worthless nonsense. Once you can learn to properly edit an article, I'll respect you more. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 02:18, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
I still can't believe this. He definitely was my favorite character, with Niko being a VERY, VERY close second. Johnny kinda sucked. He was just a complete a**hole.


I would still like to see this poll on the trivia page. Maybe it's on GTA Wiki. Ah well, I'll go look for it. [[User:88FanNASCAR|88FanNASCAR]] 21:00, February 22, 2010 (EST)


Thanks God I don't give a crap about respect of a man, who exchanges his life to trolling and arguing. Can you keep your attitude for yourself and don't bother me no more with your really important advices? Never thought, that canadians boors would teach me editing. Wow. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 15:06, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
:This talk page is for discussing the article, rather than the character. Any gameplay or opinion discussions should go into the [[Forum]]. However, I will put a poll on the main page to find out :) [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:04, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
:
:1. Niko (epic)
:2. Luis
:3. Johnny


:Ok, first of all Grand Theft AJ ''is'' correct those are just insults, not nicknames. However, that seems to have been made clear already, which is why I can't understand the resoan that this discussion has devolved back into personal attacks - which leads me to my second point; despite my previous warning, it seems as though both of you are still completely incapable of discussing anything in a civil manner. Again, there is '''no need''' to resort to petty insults to get your side of the argument across, especially over something as trivial as this. If I have to warn either of you for a third time, I will have no option but to block the two of you. - [[User:Hardrock182|Hardrock182]] 16:36, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
==About the Carjacking Statement at the End of Trivia==
Sorry Hardrock, it's just, I tried a civil approach, nothing insulting or anything, but this other user continues to ignite these arguments on different types of articles with me. At first I always revert edits a couple times, then when they're revereted back, I start a Talk section about it, and I've tried to explain to this Orto Dogge user on a few occasions my thoughts on a subject (being it something that should be removed or added.) Now, even after explaining my side throughly, and civil-like, he continued to just outright deny my accusations with nonsensical retaliations that have no substantial basis, and revert the edit again. After a few hours of him continuing this, I finally just lost my temper, I know I shouldn't have dragged the argument on as long as it did, but it seems impossible to just get a simple point through to this person, and it just really angered me. So I apoligize to you (Hardrock) for that. And Orta Dogge, I don't appreciate you dissing me for being Canadian, no need to bring nationalilty into an argument... [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 21:24, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
I think the information there is wrong, since Niko carjacks drivers by just aiming a gun at them if he has one equipped, instead of using the normal pulling the driver out of the car thing. --[[User:PBello|PBello]] 01:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)


== Nationality ==


Everyone says he is Hispanic and from the Dominican Republic, but does Luis ever say that?
Because I think he might be African American. His facial features look like they might be an African American's (from what I can make out), and, once when I crashed him into a car, he said: "African-American coming through, motherfucker!". So, what do you think? [[User:Eden1023|Eden1023]] 13:50 - July 19, 2011 (GMT)


Stop complaining and be a man, Celine. [[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 22:03, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
:Declaring oneself African Americans or Hispanic isn't declaring a nationality, it's declaring an ethnicity. Luis is from the Dominican Republic, therefore he is Dominican. If you meant ethnicity and blur the line between the terms nationality and ethnicity, then Luis still considered himself [http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps3/987734-grand-theft-auto-iv-the-ballad-of-gay-tony/faqs/59779 Dominican].--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]'''

Latest revision as of 13:30, 29 July 2011

Trinity

Couldn't "Impossible Trinity" also infer that you've dealt with the diamonds thrice? That Thing There 12:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

  • No, you deal with the diamonds four times in GTA 4 and twice in TLAD. Liberi Fatali37 03:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

Reason for rollbacking is that content was not related to Luis. It just shows that the window/roof is accessible.--spaceeinstein 01:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Improvement with new updates

We need a new picture of Luis, preferably a close-shot of his face. Also, update this page as soon as new information is available. Liberi Fatali37 06:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Luis Fernando Lopez is a Colombian race walker?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Fernando_Lopez

Luis Fernando López (born 3 June 1979 in Pasto Narino) is a Colombian race walker.

I guess his man is based on him.

Luis and the Military

Just wanted to clear something up that I deleted from the page... Luis was never in the military. The photos on the walls in his apartment are of his father. Luis's mother mentions that his father had been in the military, further more in an email Luis receives from his sister she asks if he still has those photos on the wall of their father.

--Mafioso86 07:24, November 5, 2009 (UTC)Mafioso86

Northwood Dominicans

Is Luis' association with the gang ever stated? It seems like Armando and Henrique just work for themselves. Hugo Stiglitz 04:36, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

His association with the Northwood Domicans is something from his past, as he used to work for Oscar and Alonso Gomez, but was arrested, during the events of The Ballad of Gay Tony, Luis only works with the NDs through Armando and Henrique Bardas, but then they disban from the NDs and start their own drug buisiniess, hence the minigame Drug Wars. Grand Theft AJ 23:53, December 29, 2009 (UTC)

Also Known As:

I just wanted to state that Mr. Big Shot and Captain Downtown are NOT nicknames for Luis, they're simply insults that are only said one time in the storyline by Armando. Neither of them are a considered alias. Grand Theft AJ 02:04, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

But Lou can't be a nickname too, it's just mistake of Mori and something like gay slang of Tony. Armando called Luis Captain Downtown and Mr Big Shot few times during the game and could called him like this in conversations with some street criminals and Henrique. I'm pretty sure they call him like this between each other. It's nickname of Luis given by haters. And Lou is just personal reference of Tony. Nobody on the streets know Luis as Lou. Orto Dogge 02:24, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

And you know, I don't think, that we have to arguing about this kind of fact. We have to put as much as possible information about Luis on this page, so there is no need to delete something. Especially if this is not absolutely wrong and has opportunity for arguing. Thanks in advance. Orto Dogge 02:37, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'll try to explain this in the most simple way possible. "Mr. Big Shot" and "Captain Downtown" are insults BECAUSE Armando is insinuating that Luis thinks himself a big shot, and thinks he's better then Armando and Henrique. Vlad Glebov calls Niko Bellic a yokel many times, and yokel is not a nickname. For example, if I called you Mr. Argumentive on occasion, that wouldn't be your nickname, that would be an insult, because all you do is fuel these arguments. Also, neither you, nor anyone else has any idea what Armando and Henrique call Luis behind his back, so there is no evidence of that in any way, you're just looking for things to add. Now onto "L", "Lou", and "Louie". Take Carl Johnson for example. He is also known as CJ, because it's an alias. Gay Tony calls Luis "Lou" for short, but when he says "Lou" he's still talking to Luis Fernando Lopez, not insulting him. Armando and Henrique call him "L" for short, and foriegn people (Such as Yusuf Amir and Ray Bulgarin) call him Louis, because they're under the assumption that is his name, therefore he is also known as that. So if there are any words in here you didn't understand, look them up, and quit arguing with me about these things, I'm getting tired of it. Grand Theft AJ 02:56, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

[arguments removed]

Edit wars are completely against the policy of GTW, so I'm glad you have taken it to the talk page. However, arguing really doesn't help the situation in any way. Personal insults doesn't help decide what to put on the wiki page, so just STOP as soon as the argument descends into that and get Staff to step in. For those of you who are not now blocked, I strongly suggest you reach a compromise. For example, mentioning the sort-of-nicknames in the Trivia section rather than the first sentence. This keeps the wiki clean and tidy, accurate, and containing all the information everyone wants. Do this to all the articles you guys have been fighting over. If any further wars or arguments happen, further action will be taken. Gboyers talk 02:06, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

This site isn't so much as an encyclopedia as it is an insult board for immaturity to thrive on. I understand why, because a lot of kids see this as a game they can learn bad words and bad behavior from. It feels to me like there's alot of censorship going on that's sprouted out of ignorance. If you have a problem or you're uncomfortable with the amount of AKAs and nicknames the 3 protagonists from Grand Theft Auto IV have, perhaps you should take a step back and revert to editting the GTA3 articles, where the protagonist didn't have a real name, only AKAs and nicknames.D16x 18:52, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

His "tiny hose"?

Okay, I am so confused about how people in the game constantly say that he has a tiny penis. I have two reasons that go against this. 1) he screws women a lot and constant intercorse can cause your junk to grow 2) as popular culture says, black men have larger hoses than white men So, really, I don't know where they're all getting this idea from!!

Do you really believe that every single black man in the world has a large "hose"? Popular culture says on average there's a slight trend. It's entirely possible that Louis is lacking in the trouser department. I'd trust the people he's slept with more than an average. Gboyers talk 23:08, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

"I'd trust the people he's slept with more than an average." - Exactly. Actually, Luis is more hispanic, than african-american. There are few mentions of his tiny hose in game, so it starts to look freaky for me. I think, that we gotta write about it in trivia section.Orto Dogge 23:43, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

1) I hear steroids do funny things to your balls. 2) He's Dominican, not black.ChanJaoming 23:47, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

It is made clear that he has a small hose, either by steroids or natural, Joni asks "do steroids shrink your balls or were they always like that? She sometimes says things complimeting Luis' upper body, but then saying "shame about the little man." As well as a few others.

I think it is safe to say that he has small genitals - i dont recall one mention of his penis that is a compliment in size. Funny talk guys though XD Raggi Boy

Luis is the least favorite character?

I still can't believe this. He definitely was my favorite character, with Niko being a VERY, VERY close second. Johnny kinda sucked. He was just a complete a**hole.

I would still like to see this poll on the trivia page. Maybe it's on GTA Wiki. Ah well, I'll go look for it. 88FanNASCAR 21:00, February 22, 2010 (EST)

This talk page is for discussing the article, rather than the character. Any gameplay or opinion discussions should go into the Forum. However, I will put a poll on the main page to find out :) Gboyers talk 02:04, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
1. Niko (epic)
2. Luis
3. Johnny

About the Carjacking Statement at the End of Trivia

I think the information there is wrong, since Niko carjacks drivers by just aiming a gun at them if he has one equipped, instead of using the normal pulling the driver out of the car thing. --PBello 01:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Nationality

Everyone says he is Hispanic and from the Dominican Republic, but does Luis ever say that? Because I think he might be African American. His facial features look like they might be an African American's (from what I can make out), and, once when I crashed him into a car, he said: "African-American coming through, motherfucker!". So, what do you think? Eden1023 13:50 - July 19, 2011 (GMT)

Declaring oneself African Americans or Hispanic isn't declaring a nationality, it's declaring an ethnicity. Luis is from the Dominican Republic, therefore he is Dominican. If you meant ethnicity and blur the line between the terms nationality and ethnicity, then Luis still considered himself Dominican.--spaceeinstein