Talk:Ray Boccino

Trivia

While I don't believe Ray and Sergio Boccino have anything related to each other that last line about GTA3-era and GTA IV being unrelated making it impossible is kinda false. It's like saying Lazlow from the GTA3-era games is not the same as Lazlow in GTA4 just because the games are set in different 'universes'. That claim is just a made up opinion of somebody around here. --GTA 4 PC 20:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

The GTA III Era and the games connected to GTA IV are indeed different universes, which are not connected. Thus, Ray and Sergio can not be related. As for Lazlow, like everything else, is not the same person as the GTA III Era Lazlow. References will be made to the GTA III Era, as hidden easter eggs for players to recognise, but they are not canon with GTA IV. As for your last statement, that is false. GTA IV is a fresh start for the series, with nothing crossing over from GTA III Era games to GTA IV and its related games, hence why Liberty City was redesigned. Just look at this page, which states that 'While GTA: Vice City and GTA: San Andreas were considered to be part of the GTA III trilogy (same graphics engine, similar characters, similar mission style, etc.), Grand Theft Auto IV is considered a fresh start for the GTA series...'. A-Dust 21:36, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I know GTA4 was a brand new start for the series with new engine, "next gen" graphics and for current generation consoles (360/PS3). But there are still characters (minor or major) from the gta3 era mentioned on the radio and stuff, this is more than an easter egg. I think that statement I'm talking about is just extra and unneeded because it has never been confirmed. --GTA 4 PC 01:39, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

There are no connections between the GTA III Era and GTA IV and the references are just easter eggs. See here. A-Dust 02:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I disagree to a certain extent. Yes GTA IV is a fresh start, and it could probably be considered a different universe, but There are characters and brands (eg Sprunk) that cross over. They are related, but its not just "later". It's "different". Consider the two universes separate, but closely related - not just easter-eggs (although there are a lot). Because of the parallels between the universes, I don't see why we couldnt suggest links between characters - so long as it is clearly labelled as speculation. Gboyers ^talk 21:29, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that the brands and such that are the same are R* cutting corners by not taking the time to think up new brand names (and also for some reference). I think that we could have a "Did you mean" section, but I don't agree that they should be claimed as related. Thoughts? Biggest GTA Fan Ever^Talk 23:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I say we should just say it's near impossible or highly improbable for them to be related. HuangLee 15:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Uncertain Death

From page:

Some fans have said that if observed closely, (after Niko pulls up to start following Boccino) that when the men are shown in the scene entering their vehicles, Ray isn't present, he is not seen entering a car nor already being in one. This has led to a few fans speculating if this is an accident, or a sign that Boccino will be in a next Grand Theft Auto series game.

This is rubbish. He is in the back left seat of the white car. Its possible to check by drive-by shooting each occupant of the car, rather than blowing them up. -- Cheese ^{Talk to the Cheese} 20:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed.I played Pest Control just yesterday and I saw Ray jump out of his car when it was about to explode. HuangLee 15:08, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Bell's Arrests?

Does a list of Phil Bell's arrests belong here, since the article is about Ray? Dylnuge 00:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)