Talk:The Lost and Damned

Expansion

How is the episode accessed (through phone, separately from the game etc.)? How much of the episode is integrated into the main game (vehicles, etc.)? Anything else that should be documented? I would do it myself, but I own a PS3, not a 360! Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 11:40, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

When you first download the DLC, when you start up GTA IV it will give you an option to play TLAD. After this point, every time you load up GTA IV, it will load the latest save made (whether it be vanilla (original) GTA IV or TLAD). After the first time I mentioned, to get to TLAD from the original, you must press Start, go to Game and then select either Load (if you already have a TLAD save) or New (it will give you the option to start a new GTA IV or TLAD game). All TLAD game saves are marked with a 'TLAD -' at the beginning. The only material that passes over from the TLAD to the original is the new music implemented into the current radio stations. --Aussiebushmatt 12:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Setting

On this article, whoever edtited it got the year wrong. If it takes place at the same time as GTA IV then you should change it to say 2008.


Text messages

This game was obviously intended for HD TVs... can someone please post the text messages, either on the mission pages or on a subpage here and I'll put 'em in appropriate places? I can't read a word of most of 'em on my TV  :( --GuildKnightTalk2me 01:22, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I have a 27 inch semi-HD/SD TV and it is near impossible to read the phone messages or the lower right hand corner items (street names, car names, etc. --The Vercetti 18:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Why not on PS3?

Is there a reason given why its not on the PS3? If there is I would expect that reason to be in the article. And is this game just as long as the original missions for GTA IV? AJUK 19:00, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Months, if not over a year, before GTA IV was released Microsoft paid Rockstar Games for two downloadable episodes (the first of which is The Lost and Damned), which is why TLAD is only available on the Xbox 360. A-Dust 19:40, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned

I don't know why this hasn't crossed my mind till now, but shouldn't this expansion actually be referred to as "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned" and "GTA IV: The Lost and Damned"? --GuildKnightTalk2me 04:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

That is also what I was thinking.I don't know if this really matters but I have seen other games do that such as Saints Row 2: Ultor Exposed that just came out a few days ago.-User:BloodyGTA
Yes, technically speaking it seems to be "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned". However, that is not what it is known as. On here we have a culture of usability, rather than anal technical accuracy. If everyone wants this page to be called GTA IV: The Lost and Damned, then fair enough. But I'm not having stupidly long page names for no reason (a la List of Vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories or Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned (expansion pack) or anything of the sort. Gboyers talk 22:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree with just keeping it as The Lost and Damned. That just makes it easier for other page names, like Characters in The Lost and Damned instead of Characters in GTA IV: The Lost and Damned. The only thing that I think we need to make a decision on is how the information is sorted. Some things have their own article for TLAD, others have a section in the article about the same thing in the main game, and others have both. Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 01:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
That makes perfect sense. It's only the title of this article that I imagine seeing changed to "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned", and "The Lost and Damned" redirect to here. All other things can just refer to "The Lost and Damned", it's just that it looks so awkward and out of place in a list of games... which is obviously the reason I changed the display of the sidebar. Anyway, no big deal either way, I just thought I'd see what everyone else thinks.
As far as what TLAD content gets it's own page, most pages seem to go by the guidelines of: if the TLAD material on the subject is enough for an entire article, make it a separate article; if not, add the TLAD info to the GTA IV article for the same subject. --GuildKnightTalk2me 02:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Just to be consistent with the main articles of all the games, I believe the title of this article should be named "Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned." All others, being also consistent with all other articles, can be kept short "The Lost and Damned."--Spaceeinstein 02:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

With game names we expand the "GTA" into "Grand Theft Auto". That would be a reason for us having "Grand Theft Auto" instead of "GTA", but not instead of nothing. Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned is far too long, and not what the game needs to be known as. I say we keep it simple. Gboyers talk 03:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The Ps3 Rumour?

Apparently, some people are saying that Microsoft only signed a 6-month exclusive contract with Rock*, which means that it could be coming to Ps3 in August. Has anyone heard anything about it? It would make sense, this time Microsoft getting in there first just as Sony did with San Andreas, it was a timed exclusive to the Ps2. And also, Rock* would want to be able to make as much money as possible, not just from the X-box fans but also the Ps3 fans...--LuisFernandoLopez 10:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The money that Microsoft paid for the exclusivity of the DLC might have been more than the sales from the amount of people who would buy it on PS3? However, the "time-exclusivity" rumour is known by many people and is discussed here and here. Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 05:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
It better be on PS3... Ess-Tee 05:41, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree, but the best place for this discussion is in one of the two forums I just linked to, because talk pages are for discussing changes to the article, Thanks! Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 05:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)