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I deleted the images because there is no need for them. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 00:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
I deleted the images because there is no need for them. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 00:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)


== [[:Image:Sanchez (GTAVC) (Trial by Dirt).png]] ==
==[[:Image:Sanchez-GTAVC-TrialByDirt-front.png]]==


Mind reuploading this image? Some recent server update deleted the full image for some reason. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
Mind reuploading this image? Some recent server update deleted the full image for some reason. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)


I just reuploaded it, and am doing the same for other images that got deleted too. And whenever you are on here does the recent activity board say hours instead of minutes?--
I just reuploaded it, and am doing the same for other images that got deleted too.  
[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:03, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 21:03, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
==[http://gta.wikia.com/User_talk:0ComeKillLah#Vehicles Re:Vehicles]==
==[http://gta.wikia.com/User_talk:0ComeKillLah#Vehicles Re:Vehicles]==
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:ZS, it's better on yours. |[[User:0ComeKillLah|0ComeKillLah, Meh]]|[[User talk:0ComeKillLah|Talk to me!]]| 13:01, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
:ZS, it's better on yours. |[[User:0ComeKillLah|0ComeKillLah, Meh]]|[[User talk:0ComeKillLah|Talk to me!]]| 13:01, February 3, 2010 (UTC)
== Images ==
:How do you get your images of vehicles. I see how you could in GTA San Andreas, but not in the other GTA Era games.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 05:52, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
:Made use of hidden features in the games. Angle and picture quality are also important. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:51, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
What do you mean by hidden features in the games? And did those two [[Mesa]] images, and the wrecked [[Idaho]] look better than what they would have on the TV monitor?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:24, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
:One word: [[Replay]]s. And unless you have hardware to screencap console games, you're always going to end up using a camcorder or a camera to take pictures, which almost certainly results in piss poor quality. That's the downside of using console games to take pictures.<p>Don't forget to optimize your graphic settings in the PC version GTASA. Use a "1280x1024x32" resolution. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:56, October 27, 2009 (UTC)
:Could you take a look at these two images for me, and tell which one looks better in quality? --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 00:16, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
[[File:Idaho_(San_Andreas)_(Wreck).jpg|thumb]]
[[File:Idaho (San Andreas) (wrecked).jpg|thumb]]
:[[:Image:Idaho (San Andreas) (Wreck).jpg]]. And remember to turn on anti-aliasing as well. JPG pictures made from the game are blurry, and AA helps smooth that out a bit. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 08:34, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
:I tried to turn on anti-aliasing but it won't do it. Do I have to do something else with the display to get it to work?
:It might be a graphics card thing. Either your graphics card doesn't support AA (because it's old), or you need to find the newest driver for the graphics card. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:18, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
:I think he's trying to change the setting by clicking. You use the mouse wheel then click to set it. Sorry if this wasn't the problem--[[User:Thescarydude|Thescarydude]] 19:22, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
:Where would I find the newest driver?
:If you know the model and make of your graphics card, you have no trouble Googling it. Just search for "driver (insert graphics card name)". You can find out the GC's name by accessing the System's properties in the Control Panel. Or ask around in GTAForums. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
:OK I got the anti-aliasing to work, what number do I set it to? 1, 2, or 3? Also does the higher number make it clearer. Also it slows down gameplay, is there anything to make it to where it doesn't do this?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 18:53, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:The higher the number, the better the AA. And it does slow down gameplay a bit, but only if you're running it on a computer that's around 3 years old or more. If it does reduce framerates, just turn on AA only when you want to take a picture; turn it off when you don't need it. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 19:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:One more thing, would it be wise to use widescreen, and do you need high visual fx quality?
:Avoid widescreen. From what I've seen, the widescreen setting is usually meant for widescreen monitors (i.e. those that don't use [[wp:4:3|4:3]] as opposed to [[wp:16:9|16:9]]); in reality, the actual number of pixels displayed is still the same, so screencapped images of a widescreen GTA game usually results in the images appearing thinner than usual. As for visual FX, usually you might want to make the most out of the game's graphical capabilities, although lower settings also means that you don't have to deal with blades of grass obstructing the tires of certain vehicles parked on an empty plain; also, vehicle shadows in lower visual FX do look better because it's darker than those in higher visual FX. It still depends on you though. Do you want better graphics (as intended by the developers), or better presentation? - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 19:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:Well I finally got the hardware, I'm using Fraps, and I'm using a 1400x900 screen resolution. But for some reason blips on the [[Radar]] appear smaller but just the square ones. Why is that?
:Not sure about that, I suppose it's the resolution. If you can go up to 1600x1200, it might work. Otherwise, scale down to 1280x1024. And 1400x900 is a widescreen resolution; it's not 4:3. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 10:02, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think that my laptop supports anti-aliasing. Does it only work on desktop computers?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 22:05, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
:Graphics card-related issue. Depends on which GC you're using. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 09:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:Are video cards things can come with your computer? Because I can't get any updates for mine, Intel (R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile. So I'm going to try to switch to an Nvidia driver. --[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 23:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Gallery55.jpg|thumb]]
:And could you tell me what this is? It's those little lines or something. Is that the MIP mapping?--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 20:52, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:34, 7 February 2010

Welcome

Hi, welcome to Grand Theft Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User:Gta-mysteries page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- GuildKnight (Talk) 20:04, 27 April 2009

Shopfront articles

I must ask, do these shopfronts articles really need their own article? How many sentences can completely detail the shops, and how important are they as far as gameplay is concerned? Would a list of businesses be more efficient instead of a huge mess of very short articles? - ZS 09:38, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I have a question, would it help if the articles had more images? And how much space does an article take up?--Gta-mysteries 03:42, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Images can be provided and most solid articles must have at least 1,500 KB (roughly 3 paragraphs, each with at least two or three sentences, including, images, categories and formatting). By the looks of the topic you're covering, there simply isn't much to talk about aside their appearances in games and their address, because these businesses are otherwise useless as far as gameplay is concerned and are only there for show.

Managing these articles will be an unnecessary nightmare if every one of them has their own articles. Would it be more practical to sort them in alphabetical lists instead of crowding out the business categories and hampering maintenance? - ZS 09:10, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Other than the businesses what about the businesses I made for the empire building feature. Do those look ok?--Gta-mysteries 22:55, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Businesses involved in Empire Building can be listed under a specialized list because they have specialized roles (where they can be summed up in a description field on exactly what sort of business they are), but not individual articles, because they are only just that: An otherwise unusable shop with only a destructible interior to show. Start with a list; I'll like to see if the list works first before coming to a definite conclusion. - ZS 08:52, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

When you say start a list do you mean a list on the empire building page of on a separate page?--Gta-mysteries 02:42, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

You can put it in a separate page titled "List of businesses involved in Empire Building" or something. You can link it from the main Empire Building page, probably in the "See also" section. - ZS 14:03, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
I agree entirely that un-enterable unimportant shopfronts should not have their own articles. Nobody is ever going to want to look at those articles - why would anyone do that? And as ZS says, it's creating unnecessary content which will be difficult to manage. The content you've made is good, and should be put into a list or table, like Businesses in Los Santos and perhaps Shops in Los Santos - if it's a table you could have an image next to each one. If the shop is enterable, then sure, have a page if you think it needs one (as well as being in the list/table), and shove in a couple of screenshots - that's manageable. If it has a special function (like Empire Building), then put it in a special list for that. Gboyers talk 10:18, October 13, 2009 (UTC)

Redirects

Hello. May I ask you to please not create so many redirect pages. I mean L.C.P.D Directed to the LCPD page is fine. But redirects like Cop (clothing), The Exchange (III) and Benson (car) are completely unneeded. They clog up space and no one would search for these. So I wish for you not to make these pages. Good luck! --Chimpso 02:37, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Instead of the redirects would it be better to just edit the pages where the link is and put the right one in?--Gta-mysteries 03:16, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
Obviously, it would make more sense to correct the links themselves, than to create dozens of unnecessary redirects - especially given the fact that the vast majority of the redirects that you created were only linked to from - now redundant - talk page discussions. In future please just make sure that you know why the red links are there, as they may have only been suggestions for article names. Also, unlike Wikipedia, most of the time we try to avoid using article names with brackets in them - for example "Tug (GTA IV)" - the main reason being that nobody would willingly type that into the search box, that's why we use names like Tug Boat and Police Car. - Hardrock182 08:53, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Galleries

Just a quick reminder. When you add a "Gallery" section to an article, the last line of code should be "</gallery>", not "<gallery/>" - (notice the minor difference?) while the positioning of the "/" may seem irrelevant, it actually causes the categories on the article to disappear for some reason. So in future just make sure you use the correct code for galleries. Thanks. - Hardrock182 18:41, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Images

I deleted the images because there is no need for them. A-Dust 00:51, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Mind reuploading this image? Some recent server update deleted the full image for some reason. - ZS 10:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

I just reuploaded it, and am doing the same for other images that got deleted too. Gta-mysteries 21:03, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Your first reply: Could you get some pictures of some special vehicles from GTA San Andreas please. I can't do it myself because of my computer resolution. If so they are the green Pizza Boy from Ice Cold Killa, the green Packer from Cop Wheels, the SWAT Tank from End of the Line, the three Vortexes, and the BF Injection from Cut Throat Business, and the other two Campers in Jizzy. Thanks --Gta-mysteries 21:12, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the reply. As you know, there is a image in the SWAT truck article. And can you tell me each vehicle for each mission please?
|0ComeKillLah, Meh|Talk to me!| 05:54, January 22, 2010 (UTC)


Vehicle Mission
Pizza Boy Ice Cold Killa
Packer Cop Wheels
Campers Jizzy
Vortexes Cut Throat Business
BF Injection Cut Throat Business

I have seen your images and it needs some adjustment on the resolution. Tell me, what is your computer resolution? |0ComeKillLah, Meh|Talk to me!| 10:18, January 22, 2010 (UTC)


My resolution on GTA III, GTA VC, and GTA SA is good, it's a 1200x800x32. I also use a 1400x900 for GTA SA, So it's no such much as the resolution it's just the graphics in a way.


Ok, for somehow, I have resized two of your images. Look at them below.


I didn't take an image of my computer, that was my PS2 version.

Anyways, the Campers and Vortexes from missions are done by ZS and they looked fine. And the BF Injection, cropped by you, looks also fine.
Feel free to tell me for more images. But not now, have problems with grapical card. =/
|0ComeKillLah, Meh|Talk to me!| 13:30, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

Could you provide the name of the mission where this Bobcat appears? And is this a reproduction Bobcat or one taken from the mission? - ZS 12:51, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

It was obtained from the mission Autocide.

Wrong Editings

I was in my homepage and I noticed that ZS is creating new images in some vehicle articles. I checked one of it and see the history. I saw your edit and this happens. You make some wrong edits. Please don't do that again next time. If you don't know what you are doing, DON'T do it.

It's just an advice/warning, I won't scold you. :P

|0ComeKillLah, Meh|Talk to me!| 13:15, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean.--Gta-mysteries 01:06, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Images

Just a request that, when you upload images, please place them into an appropriate category. For example, images regarding missions should go into the mission category for that game. Just makes it easier to keep track of images and helps in the current task of re-naming images to a consistant format. Thank you. A-Dust 02:19, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Please note that only admins and managers can rename images, so it's necessary that an admin must have the image name changed before the image syntax can be changed in the article. Thanks. - ZS 10:59, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Would it be possible to avoid a money counter that is nearly maxed out? It's very indicative of trainer being used, which is unnatural in the game. Several million dollars should be enough. - ZS 20:32, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

ZS, it's better on yours. |0ComeKillLah, Meh|Talk to me!| 13:01, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Images

How do you get your images of vehicles. I see how you could in GTA San Andreas, but not in the other GTA Era games.--Gta-mysteries 05:52, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
Made use of hidden features in the games. Angle and picture quality are also important. - ZS 09:51, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by hidden features in the games? And did those two Mesa images, and the wrecked Idaho look better than what they would have on the TV monitor?--Gta-mysteries 19:24, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

One word: Replays. And unless you have hardware to screencap console games, you're always going to end up using a camcorder or a camera to take pictures, which almost certainly results in piss poor quality. That's the downside of using console games to take pictures.

Don't forget to optimize your graphic settings in the PC version GTASA. Use a "1280x1024x32" resolution. - ZS 09:56, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Could you take a look at these two images for me, and tell which one looks better in quality? --Gta-mysteries 00:16, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
File:Idaho (San Andreas) (Wreck).jpg
File:Idaho (San Andreas) (wrecked).jpg
Image:Idaho (San Andreas) (Wreck).jpg. And remember to turn on anti-aliasing as well. JPG pictures made from the game are blurry, and AA helps smooth that out a bit. - ZS 08:34, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
I tried to turn on anti-aliasing but it won't do it. Do I have to do something else with the display to get it to work?
It might be a graphics card thing. Either your graphics card doesn't support AA (because it's old), or you need to find the newest driver for the graphics card. - ZS 19:18, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
I think he's trying to change the setting by clicking. You use the mouse wheel then click to set it. Sorry if this wasn't the problem--Thescarydude 19:22, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Where would I find the newest driver?
If you know the model and make of your graphics card, you have no trouble Googling it. Just search for "driver (insert graphics card name)". You can find out the GC's name by accessing the System's properties in the Control Panel. Or ask around in GTAForums. - ZS 10:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
OK I got the anti-aliasing to work, what number do I set it to? 1, 2, or 3? Also does the higher number make it clearer. Also it slows down gameplay, is there anything to make it to where it doesn't do this?--Gta-mysteries 18:53, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
The higher the number, the better the AA. And it does slow down gameplay a bit, but only if you're running it on a computer that's around 3 years old or more. If it does reduce framerates, just turn on AA only when you want to take a picture; turn it off when you don't need it. - ZS 19:00, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks--Gta-mysteries 19:29, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
One more thing, would it be wise to use widescreen, and do you need high visual fx quality?
Avoid widescreen. From what I've seen, the widescreen setting is usually meant for widescreen monitors (i.e. those that don't use 4:3 as opposed to 16:9); in reality, the actual number of pixels displayed is still the same, so screencapped images of a widescreen GTA game usually results in the images appearing thinner than usual. As for visual FX, usually you might want to make the most out of the game's graphical capabilities, although lower settings also means that you don't have to deal with blades of grass obstructing the tires of certain vehicles parked on an empty plain; also, vehicle shadows in lower visual FX do look better because it's darker than those in higher visual FX. It still depends on you though. Do you want better graphics (as intended by the developers), or better presentation? - ZS 19:56, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
Well I finally got the hardware, I'm using Fraps, and I'm using a 1400x900 screen resolution. But for some reason blips on the Radar appear smaller but just the square ones. Why is that?
Not sure about that, I suppose it's the resolution. If you can go up to 1600x1200, it might work. Otherwise, scale down to 1280x1024. And 1400x900 is a widescreen resolution; it's not 4:3. - ZS 10:02, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that my laptop supports anti-aliasing. Does it only work on desktop computers?--Gta-mysteries 22:05, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
Graphics card-related issue. Depends on which GC you're using. - ZS 09:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Are video cards things can come with your computer? Because I can't get any updates for mine, Intel (R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile. So I'm going to try to switch to an Nvidia driver. --Gta-mysteries 23:01, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
File:Gallery55.jpg
And could you tell me what this is? It's those little lines or something. Is that the MIP mapping?--Gta-mysteries 20:52, February 7, 2010 (UTC)