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'''Oasis''' is the new skin that Wikia will be rolling out to Grand Theft Wiki in October 2010, to replace Monaco. This new skin is mandatory, and we will be unable to revert back to Monaco or Monobook.  
{{info|Many users of Grand Theft Wiki have moved to [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com GrandTheftWiki.com]. <br>You can choose whether to stay on Wikia, or join the new site}}
 
Grand Theft Wiki has been hosted on Wikia since 2008. By 2010, many users were unhappy with Wikia's focus on advertising, an increasing amount of interference from Wikia in the operation of this wiki, and Wikia ignoring the community and its opinion.
 
This dissatisfaction grew up to the release of a new 'Oasis' skin by Wikia. This skin brought a narrow content area, moved many functions to unusable places, and reduced the wiki's individual branding and navigation to being secondary to Wikia's large visible header. This skin was introduced alongside new terms of use, which prevented any adjustments to the skin's design apart from some colours and a background image. Despite a large amount of feedback being given by beta testers, wiki administrators and regular users, Wikia are forging ahead and making the Oasis skin mandatory.
 
Due to Wikia's ongoing interference and lack of respect towards this wiki's community, a discussion was held on whether to leave Wikia as the host of Grand Theft Wiki. After discussion, it was agreed by the participating community and all of Grand Theft Wiki's staff to move, and Grand Theft Wiki changed host and moved to [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com GrandTheftWiki.com].
 
Discussions were held on Wikia's copy of the site. Some administrators wanted to run this as a GTA modding wiki, in a mutually-beneficial partnership with the moved Grand Theft Wiki; but Wikia refused and chose to run a copy of the wiki here, in competition with the departed Grand Theft Wiki community.
 
As a user, you have a choice whether to join the Grand Theft Wiki community at [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com GrandTheftWiki.com], or to stay at Wikia and edit this copy.
 
The original proposal for the move is below, and the extensive discussion is on [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|the talk page]]. Please read this through and make your own choice about where you choose to edit.
 
Thanks - [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/user:gboyers Gboyers] <sup>[http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/User_talk:Gboyers talk]</sup> 22:14, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
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=Original pre-move discussion=
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'''Oasis''' is the new skin that Wikia will be rolling out to Grand Theft Wiki in October 2010, to replace Monaco. This new skin is mandatory, and we will be unable to revert back to Monaco or Monobook.


You can view the Oasis skin on [http://glee.wikia.com Glee], [http://healthyrecipes.wikia.com Healthy Recipies] and [http://muppet.wikia.com Muppets].
You can view the Oasis skin on [http://glee.wikia.com Glee], [http://healthyrecipes.wikia.com Healthy Recipies] and [http://muppet.wikia.com Muppets].


'''Timeline'''<br>
'''Timeline'''<br />
October 6, 2010 - All logged in users will be able to “switch on” the new look for themselves on any wiki they visit. <br>
October 6, 2010 - All logged in users will be able to “switch on” the new look for themselves on any wiki they visit.<br />
October 20, 2010 - All users will see the new look on every wiki. Logged in users will have the ''temporary'' option of viewing and editing wikis in Monaco. <br>
October 20, 2010 - All users will see the new look on every wiki. Logged in users will have the ''temporary'' option of viewing and editing wikis in Monaco.<br />
November 3, 2010 - The option to use Monaco will be removed.  
November 3, 2010 - The option to use Monaco will be removed.


==Our Problem==
==Our Problem==
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Wikia claim that they have consulted the community about these changes. Whilst there has been a beta test running, they have only fixed problems rather than listened to the genuine negative feedback from hundreds of users.  
Wikia claim that they have consulted the community about these changes. Whilst there has been a beta test running, they have only fixed problems rather than listened to the genuine negative feedback from hundreds of users.


The Grand Theft Wiki staff fundamentally disagree with Wikia's priority of putting advertising and money before content and the community. It is the disregard for our opinion and the disrespect to our community and our content that is driving our upset.
The Grand Theft Wiki staff fundamentally disagree with Wikia's priority of putting advertising and money before content and the community. It is the disregard for our opinion and the disrespect to our community and our content that is driving our upset.
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'''Grand Theft Wiki will not move without discussion and input from the community'''. Unlike Wikia, we respect our users, and we see this as YOUR site, not owned by one person, and certainly not owned by Wikia.
'''Grand Theft Wiki will not move without discussion and input from the community'''. Unlike Wikia, we respect our users, and we see this as YOUR site, not owned by one person, and certainly not owned by Wikia.


We are asking our members three questions on the [[Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Oasis|talk page]]. This is not a vote, as we have to weigh up all the options and make a sensible decision. But we respect this community and will act upon whatever the consensus is.
We are asking our members three questions on the [[Community:Hub/Oasis|talk page]]. This is not a vote, as we have to weigh up all the options and make a sensible decision. But we respect this community and will act upon whatever the consensus is.
#What do you think of the Oasis skin?
#What do you think of the Oasis skin?
#Do you think GTW should leave Wikia?
#Do you think GTW should leave Wikia?
#If we moved, would you move with us, rather than staying on gta.wikia.com?
#If we moved, would you move with us, rather than staying on gta.wikia.com?


'''[http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Oasis&action=edit&section=new Answer Questions Now]'''
'''[{{SERVER}}/index.php?title=Community:Hub/Oasis&action=edit&section=new Answer Questions Now]'''