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Take [[Wanted Level in GTA III Era]]; an alternative could be to use "Wanted Level (GTA III - GTA Vice City Stories)", with redirects created for respectable games that lead to that article (Wanted Level in GTA III, Wanted Level in GTA Vice City..., Wanted Level in GTA Vice City Stories), something that would be straight to the point to your average reader. So a reader wouldn't want to type "Wanted Level (GTA III - GTA Vice City Stories)", but does that matter when they could search using a redirect's name? | Take [[Wanted Level in GTA III Era]]; an alternative could be to use "Wanted Level (GTA III - GTA Vice City Stories)", with redirects created for respectable games that lead to that article (Wanted Level in GTA III, Wanted Level in GTA Vice City..., Wanted Level in GTA Vice City Stories), something that would be straight to the point to your average reader. So a reader wouldn't want to type "Wanted Level (GTA III - GTA Vice City Stories)", but does that matter when they could search using a redirect's name? | ||
Yes, we'll need to overhaul a shitton of articles, but that's the price we have to pay for being so rigid with how we named and wrote articles. I have ideas on how to go about it, even with the [[GTA 1 Era]], [[GTA 2 Era]], [[GTA III Era]] and [[GTA IV Era]] articles. | Yes, we'll need to overhaul a shitton of articles, but that's the price we have to pay for being so rigid with how we named and wrote articles. I have ideas on how to go about it, even with the [[GTA 1 Era]], [[Grand Theft Auto 2|GTA 2 Era]], [[GTA III Era]] and [[GTA IV Era]] articles. | ||
'''''Without eras, every page would need to have a huge awkward list of every game that it refers to, instead of simply "XYZ appears in the GTA III Era".''''' | '''''Without eras, every page would need to have a huge awkward list of every game that it refers to, instead of simply "XYZ appears in the GTA III Era".''''' | ||
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:*GTA V does raise some points in terms of how different eras are. For the first time, we ''might'' see crossovers of characters, the same engine, and even copied vehicles. However, it is far too early to tell. Worst case scenario is that the IV and V eras get paired up. | :*GTA V does raise some points in terms of how different eras are. For the first time, we ''might'' see crossovers of characters, the same engine, and even copied vehicles. However, it is far too early to tell. Worst case scenario is that the IV and V eras get paired up. | ||
:*In terms of the specific wording, as there is no official term, we're free to use whatever we like. I understand that an 'Era' in geological terms is millions of years, but it's often used in this context of an age-based non-overlapping grouping, and is the simplest term here. Generation perhaps makes more sense as it shows how each era is a technological advancement and improvement on the previous - each a new generation. Canon is more a technical term, and I understand it as an adjective (whether something is canonical) rather than a noun (a new canon). | :*In terms of the specific wording, as there is no official term, we're free to use whatever we like. I understand that an 'Era' in geological terms is millions of years, but it's often used in this context of an age-based non-overlapping grouping, and is the simplest term here. Generation perhaps makes more sense as it shows how each era is a technological advancement and improvement on the previous - each a new generation. Canon is more a technical term, and I understand it as an adjective (whether something is canonical) rather than a noun (a new canon). | ||
:*I don't get what the huge problem with the word Era is - yes it's not official, it's the one thing we invent which makes our lives MUCH easier. Other things we invent include the name [[GTA 1]] and all our types of [[Vehicles]] - they just make sense. | :*I don't get what the huge problem with the word Era is - yes it's not official, it's the one thing we invent which makes our lives MUCH easier. Other things we invent include the name [[Grand Theft Auto 1|GTA 1]] and all our types of [[Vehicles]] - they just make sense. | ||
:So as you can tell, I'm in favour of keeping the Era terminology as it is simple, straightforward, easy to understand and incredibly useful. If we changed to X-to-Y terminology, that would make things much more complicated and much harder to quickly understand for new and experienced users alike. I'm happy to look a bit more carefully about how frequently we use the term. Let me know what you think, and I hope other users will join in! --[[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 04:22, 4 November 2011 (GMT) | :So as you can tell, I'm in favour of keeping the Era terminology as it is simple, straightforward, easy to understand and incredibly useful. If we changed to X-to-Y terminology, that would make things much more complicated and much harder to quickly understand for new and experienced users alike. I'm happy to look a bit more carefully about how frequently we use the term. Let me know what you think, and I hope other users will join in! --[[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 04:22, 4 November 2011 (GMT) | ||
Other than the [[User_talk:Spaceeinstein#.22GTA_Era.22_categorization|previous discussion]], I have little to add. I still prefer "series" over "era." I think it may prevent further [[Talk:GTA V Era|general confusion]] over the usage of the term.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 04:23, 7 November 2011 (GMT) | Other than the [[User_talk:Spaceeinstein#.22GTA_Era.22_categorization|previous discussion]], I have little to add. I still prefer "series" over "era." I think it may prevent further [[Talk:GTA V Era|general confusion]] over the usage of the term.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 04:23, 7 November 2011 (GMT) | ||
:Problem is that we use "series" to refer to the [[ | :Problem is that we use "series" to refer to the [[Grand Theft Auto|entire "GTA Series"]], so that could cause further confusion. Think of a television series, one "series" includes all of the "seasons" (at least in America, it's different here in Australia), which are a grouping of episodes similar to how we use eras. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 04:34, 7 November 2011 (GMT) | ||
::I think series makes it sound too official - as if they are clear separate regular groups, like TV seasons. People would expect that to be marked on the box as "series 3" etc. Truth is that eras are just our groupings based on when Rockstar chooses to increment the number. That's why I like the term era, as it is time based and non-specific (whilst generations implies one is a child game of another). [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> | ::I think series makes it sound too official - as if they are clear separate regular groups, like TV seasons. People would expect that to be marked on the box as "series 3" etc. Truth is that eras are just our groupings based on when Rockstar chooses to increment the number. That's why I like the term era, as it is time based and non-specific (whilst generations implies one is a child game of another). [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> | ||