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==Page Naming==
==Page Naming==
We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to [[Michelle (SA)]] (which is a city) or [[Michelle (GTA SA)]] or [[Michelle (GTA San Andreas)]]? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
We need a bit of a think on page naming. Do we use [[Michelle (IV)]] or [[Mickey (GTA IV)]]. If we use it for other games, do we switch to Michelle (SA) (which is a city) or Michelle (GTA SA) or Michelle (GTA San Andreas)? And what if that character is in more than one game, and still needs to be disambiguated? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:19, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity.  Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], [[Michelle (GTA SA)]], [[Michelle (GTA LCS)]], etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role.  There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go.  We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default.  Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:I am of the opinion that we should use as detailed desciptions as possible, while maintaining brevity.  Therefore, I would opt for [[Michelle (GTA IV)]], Michelle (GTA SA), Michelle (GTA LCS), etc...I think it's fine to use shortened versions of game names in titles, which can be expanded upon in the article...the only question is, do we use colons, i.e. (GTA:SA), or just leave it as a space?<br>Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your point, but when a character shows up in more than one game, I think it's fine to leave their nomenclature centered around the game in which they play the biggest role.  There should be references to their appearances in other games within the article, but I don't think including every appearance on a disambiguation page is the way to go.  We can use in-article text and categories to show that a particular character has appeared in more than one game, and should defer to their most prominent appearance as default.  Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 21:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


== Watching Talk:Michelle (IV) ==
== Watching Talk:Michelle (IV) ==
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:::What has the promotion procedure become? It is managers decide isn't it? As for Eganio and GK, I agree that they are inactive. Just FYI, Eganio has edited three times since he disappeared and one edit was to a user talk page. He said something about "sorry for the delayed reply, I've been busy", so it seems like he plans on coming back. GK ''is'' on sometimes and has said on her userpage that she's busy and is coming back (you probably already know most of that, but anyway). The orange does look better, and the templates/colour matching sounds like a good idea. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 03:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:::What has the promotion procedure become? It is managers decide isn't it? As for Eganio and GK, I agree that they are inactive. Just FYI, Eganio has edited three times since he disappeared and one edit was to a user talk page. He said something about "sorry for the delayed reply, I've been busy", so it seems like he plans on coming back. GK ''is'' on sometimes and has said on her userpage that she's busy and is coming back (you probably already know most of that, but anyway). The orange does look better, and the templates/colour matching sounds like a good idea. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 03:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Two things. Firstly, [[MediaWiki:Monaco.css]] still says ''ADMIN - Blue - bold'', (you didn't change it when you changed the colour) and ''Not talk page''. The other thing is, why did you force talk page links into lowercase? I noticed when in RC I saw a link to [[User talk:A-Dust]]. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Two things. Firstly, MediaWiki:Monaco.css still says ''ADMIN - Blue - bold'', (you didn't change it when you changed the colour) and ''Not talk page''. The other thing is, why did you force talk page links into lowercase? I noticed when in RC I saw a link to [[User talk:A-Dust]]. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


:I was only going to finanlise the comments etc on monaco.css when we'd decided on colours etc. Currently we're still in "testing it out" mode, unless everyone agrees. The talk page link lowercase one was cos I must have copied the wrong bit from my line (which is lowercase for reasons I explained earlier). Feel free to fix both of those problems (since you asked me first)! [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was only going to finanlise the comments etc on monaco.css when we'd decided on colours etc. Currently we're still in "testing it out" mode, unless everyone agrees. The talk page link lowercase one was cos I must have copied the wrong bit from my line (which is lowercase for reasons I explained earlier). Feel free to fix both of those problems (since you asked me first)! [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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== IRC ==
== IRC ==
Ive set up a page here: [[Grand Theft Wiki:IRC/Staff]].  If all of the staff would fill in what times you could be available to join the IRC channel, it would be appreciated.  We'd like to see if we can arrange an IRC Staff meeting.  Any questions on the [[Grand Theft Wiki talk:IRC/Staff|talk page]].  --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 17:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Ive set up a page here: Grand Theft Wiki:IRC/Staff.  If all of the staff would fill in what times you could be available to join the IRC channel, it would be appreciated.  We'd like to see if we can arrange an IRC Staff meeting.  Any questions on the [[Grand Theft Wiki talk:IRC/Staff|talk page]].  --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 17:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


== Staff Colours & Ranks ==
== Staff Colours & Ranks ==
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== Wikia Welcome Tool ==
== Wikia Welcome Tool ==


What do you think about adding a Welcome header to the [[User talk:Wikia|Wikia Welcome Tool]] so that users don't end up with talk pages that have a welcome at the top before the TOC? I asked Wikia about this (thinking that it was a Wikia-wide thing) and they said that this can be done by editing [[MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user]] (I don't know why the link is red, but it still works) and [[MediaWiki:Welcome-message-anon]] (but only managers can edit them). Also, the tool only seems to work using admin/managers usernames, so Gboyers might have to ask Wikia to enable it for moderators (if you want to). '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
What do you think about adding a Welcome header to the [[User talk:Wikia|Wikia Welcome Tool]] so that users don't end up with talk pages that have a welcome at the top before the TOC? I asked Wikia about this (thinking that it was a Wikia-wide thing) and they said that this can be done by editing [[MediaWiki:Welcome-message-user]] (I don't know why the link is red, but it still works) and MediaWiki:Welcome-message-anon (but only managers can edit them). Also, the tool only seems to work using admin/managers usernames, so Gboyers might have to ask Wikia to enable it for moderators (if you want to). '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 07:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


:Some good suggestions! I'll do that header part. It's a red link because the page hasn't been filled in. The content isn't in that page until we put it there, what you see is actually imported from wikia (since we dont have it customised yet). We just edit that page and it works. We can also change whose name appears (eg so it could be the same person every time) - but we could make it randomly pick between a list of staff? I don't think we can still make it use the last person to edit, so perhaps it's better staying as it is to make sure they get someone active to speak to?
:Some good suggestions! I'll do that header part. It's a red link because the page hasn't been filled in. The content isn't in that page until we put it there, what you see is actually imported from wikia (since we dont have it customised yet). We just edit that page and it works. We can also change whose name appears (eg so it could be the same person every time) - but we could make it randomly pick between a list of staff? I don't think we can still make it use the last person to edit, so perhaps it's better staying as it is to make sure they get someone active to speak to?