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::I suppose the difficulty with my understanding of this is that my opinions were in conflict with the assertion of Fleischberg as a brewery. It aroused my interest & made me wonder from where this information was gleaned. That has been answered... but the fact remains: the game doesn't explicitly identify the product manufactured here. Confirmation by game-files only proves that it was conceived & intended as a brewery for the creation of the resources used to build it. We know that beta-versions contain resources that become altered, scrapped, or unused..., and there is a variety of explanations for why the final version appears as it does. My point is being missed because it seems I'm arguing that this is not a brewery when, in fact, that wouldn't bother me one bit. It's just a matter of another source in the final game that is played being responsible for identifying this place. I'm not aware of any and, quite honestly, that makes me suspicious. My speculations aren't important, but the reporting of Fleischberg as a brewery is unnecessary, not essential to the story, and an imposition of deduced information. Consider that a Wiki has a responsibility to monitor its own facts while reducing its own biases. If you assert this fact about the game, then anyone reading this has assumed it into their own beliefs about it... you have altered their perception of it which is not an objective of reporting facts. Do not misread that I am arguing now for Fleischberg to be anything else, it was conceived as a brewery... but is not stated or important in the game; therefore, it is also unnecessary to report it as such. Lol... this is certainly far beyond the discussion it needs.'''[[user:HoraceBroon|HoraceBroon]]<sup>''[[user talk:HoraceBroon|Riddle]]''</sup>''' 02:32, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | ::I suppose the difficulty with my understanding of this is that my opinions were in conflict with the assertion of Fleischberg as a brewery. It aroused my interest & made me wonder from where this information was gleaned. That has been answered... but the fact remains: the game doesn't explicitly identify the product manufactured here. Confirmation by game-files only proves that it was conceived & intended as a brewery for the creation of the resources used to build it. We know that beta-versions contain resources that become altered, scrapped, or unused..., and there is a variety of explanations for why the final version appears as it does. My point is being missed because it seems I'm arguing that this is not a brewery when, in fact, that wouldn't bother me one bit. It's just a matter of another source in the final game that is played being responsible for identifying this place. I'm not aware of any and, quite honestly, that makes me suspicious. My speculations aren't important, but the reporting of Fleischberg as a brewery is unnecessary, not essential to the story, and an imposition of deduced information. Consider that a Wiki has a responsibility to monitor its own facts while reducing its own biases. If you assert this fact about the game, then anyone reading this has assumed it into their own beliefs about it... you have altered their perception of it which is not an objective of reporting facts. Do not misread that I am arguing now for Fleischberg to be anything else, it was conceived as a brewery... but is not stated or important in the game; therefore, it is also unnecessary to report it as such. Lol... this is certainly far beyond the discussion it needs.'''[[user:HoraceBroon|HoraceBroon]]<sup>''[[user talk:HoraceBroon|Riddle]]''</sup>''' 02:32, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::I've never seen anyone question the canonicity of game files before. Whatever you want believe, it's still a brewery because it is labeled as a brewery and this little bit of trivia stays in the article because it exists within the game. How can you say this is spreading a belief when you are clearly opinionated while I have provided all evidence I have gathered? There's nothing that implies that this structure is not a brewery while there is substantial evidence that it is one, therefore I assert this being a brewery as fact and want people to perceive this evidence, which is clearly objective, as fact until there is contradictory evidence. Your only argument that it might not be a brewery is because it's never mentioned explicitly within the game to be one, which is an unfounded argument, and your suggestion of not mentioning that in the article suppresses concrete evidence. I take game files seriously and literally and that has never failed on me yet. Whatever the files say, it's the final word.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 04:12, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | |||