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== Comments on LiquidThread plugin, among others ==
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Seems fine to me? [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 07:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Seems fine to me? [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 07:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


:I've just [[:File:Infobox character problem.jpg|uploaded an image]] showing the problem. A-Dust 10:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
:I've just <nowiki>[[:File:Infobox character problem.jpg|uploaded an image]]</nowiki> showing the problem. A-Dust 10:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


==Re:Bot replace tool==
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== Re: Things To Do ==
== Re: Things To Do ==


Well i guess i can help out here and there do whatever i can but the only reason I asked if theres nothing to edit anymore is because well to me every page already is all that it can be (in my opinion) but hopefully that will change my additude towards editing on GTW when [[GTA V]] is released getting me to edit as much as i used to.Also as long as im here what are the requirements to become a admin?--[[User:Gtajesus|Gtajesus]]
Well i guess i can help out here and there do whatever i can but the only reason I asked if theres nothing to edit anymore is because well to me every page already is all that it can be (in my opinion) but hopefully that will change my additude towards editing on GTW when [[Grand Theft Auto V|GTA V]] is released getting me to edit as much as i used to.Also as long as im here what are the requirements to become a admin?--[[User:Gtajesus|Gtajesus]]


It does help but what do you mean by knowning how wikitext/code and how complex templates work?--[[User:Gtajesus|Gtajesus]]
It does help but what do you mean by knowning how wikitext/code and how complex templates work?--[[User:Gtajesus|Gtajesus]]
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I need to ask,could you possible make this flag a user box [[File:Image.jpeg]]
I need to ask,could you possible make this flag a user box <nowiki>[[File:Image.jpeg]]</nowiki>
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Also if anything goes wrong like plagiarism just give me a call and I'll appropriately find a solution. Don't worry I can be trusted, just trust me I'll help you and the staff of this wiki. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 15:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Also if anything goes wrong like plagiarism just give me a call and I'll appropriately find a solution. Don't worry I can be trusted, just trust me I'll help you and the staff of this wiki. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 15:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
: What I mean affliation is that I don't want the two sites to become sworn enemies but rather help solve our problems and try to find a solution in the future even if this site is now separate and free and the old site is still under Wikia. And the old Monaco skin is much more "pretty amazing" the first time I see it. For partly I am having difficulty with the Oasis skin as it has very narrow content and the only thing I realize that when I logged out, the adverts appear. From what I feel I am also very upset of what Wikia had done and generally I have a sympathy for you guys so just wanted to say keep up the good work make this wiki the best GTA site. Also if you spot any plagiarism of contents from GTW to GTA Wikia without giving any certain attribution, just contact either me, Dan, or Jeff about this an we will formally solve any problems regards to copying content from here. :) [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 02:04, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
== My username ==
Hi Gerard, could you change my username to Messi1983 please. Thanks. [[User:Dan the Man 1983|Dan the Man 1983]] ([[User talk:Dan the Man 1983|talk]]) 13:34, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks G. By the way if you see any copying from this site to the one on Wikia, do let me know and I'll deal with it straight away. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 22:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
==Facebook==
Gerard I'm not trying to ignite the war between GTA Wikia and Grand Theft Wiki about what I have seen before and I have briefly discuss this before I message you. As I have seen on your facebook community page [http://www.facebook.com/GrandTheftWiki] I don't know whose member of the staff post this but I have seen that you are insulting the GTA Wikia staff, especially The Tom. Don't you have morals or something? Why are you trying to advertise this and let everyone say that "I find it strange that people are all up in arms about the gender of a character. This is about crime, not being a sexist "stud"." For god sake man we are not sexist and homophobic. We allow all of you guys to denounce your hatred against us, but insulting us in social networking sites is not something that I could not bear. Parang pinapababa ninyo ang pagkatao at dangal naming mga staff ng GTA Wikia. We are not competing with each other okay, we are very different sites. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 04:15, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:Okay I'm very sorry of what I have said G. You're right Gerard, I really don't understand of what happened years ago before I join. But in between in those years I have fully known the old site years before I join. You're right G, who am I to question what happened long time ago before I join. I never really expect of what I have said in my comments. Maybe I was just carried away of what I have said in those comments, so I'm sorry. Really really sorry man. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 12:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
::G I'm very sorry of the actions I have undertaken that day, maybe I was just to immature to understand such things as I am only 16 and especially I also encounter my own "personal problems". I'm not even a sexist and I certainly do not hate gay people or a female protagonist. I will (and will always) still buy the game even if he the game has a gay or female protagonist. I don't compliment that having a gay or female protagonist would "ruin the game" as always Rockstar made games will always still be the best even if it has a gay or a female protagonist in it and still I would really continue to buy it.  That's all I'm saying. Still I'm saying very sorry man as this issue has to become even bigger and I hope I'm still welcome to contribute here. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 02:46, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
==Posting stuff on Facebook==
I've just seen that stuff that you posted about me on facebook, you twisted my words and completely took them out of context. I originally decided to leave it alone but thats only because I thought that you were.
''"I don't know what they taught you at Heckmondwike, but just because someone is gay does not make them camp, promiscuous, AIDS-riddled sluts, which is what a lot of people assume."'' Firstly I don't go to Heckmondwike and did I ever say anything like that about gay people?
''"In fact, the gay people I know are nicer, more romantic and more committed than half the straight people I know, and on the whole more masculine too."'' I don't know what kind of straight guys you know but the vast majority of the men I know are a lot more masculine than the gay men I know.
''"I know and have worked with a number of gay people in the police and army, who are a hell of a lot more manly than the people you probably look up to, like the perfume-selling long-haired David Beckham."'' Why do you think I look up to David Beckham? I don't like football and can't stand the guy.
''"Yes, I can understand straight males being weirded out by a female/gay character dating males, but I don't think dating should be included in a GTA game anyway. But why would controlling a female or gay character make any difference to *anything* else in the game? Seriously? Would the woman not be able to drive properly, or have to have a baby with her at all times? Or would the gay have to stop every 5 minutes to re-touch his makeup and put on his drag outfit? It's closed-minded attitudes like that which is what holds back so many things."'' I have never said anything like this, I said  "playing as a woman wouldn't be as bad as a gay protagonist but It would lose fans", this was a reference to sales figures, you have taken this completely out of context to make me appear homophobic and sexist, I don't know why you did that, maybe to just make the GTA Wikia look bad?
''"I actually think a female character would open up many other avenues, like how she could manipulate men to get them to do what she wanted. Likewise, a gay character would find it tougher to work his way up to the top (which 'yet another white male' would find easier). Remember how hard it was for Niko to find work and be accepted in IV? Imagine it being a thousand times harder, because of people like you underestimating and prejudging him, so he has to prove himself (no that doesn't mean sleep around)."'' People like me? Fuck you. I'm simply stating that there are a lot of gamers who wouldn't want to play as a gay man, I have no real hatred toward gay people.
I know this was a while back but after seeing what you did I can't just sit here and ignore it. [[User:The Tom|The Tom]] ([[User talk:The Tom|talk]]) 16:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
''"GTA games are only for straight, white males, and everyone slightly different to you should be banned from even playing it"''.  When did I ever say white? [[User:The Tom|The Tom]] ([[User talk:The Tom|talk]]) 16:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
:I do understand where you're coming from and I know I could of worded my comment a bit better but there was no need to bad mouth me over facebook, I thought that we had settled it on Wikia. Sorry about the swearing but I was pretty angry at the time. I hope you understand why I was so angry and that I don't hate gay people and that I'm not sexist. I would never say intentional homophobic and sexist things, but I stand by my point that many GTA fans wouldn't want to buy the game should there be a gay or female protagonist, honestly I'd still buy the game but there are a lot of people that wouldn't. Anyway I hope that we can well and truly put this behind us now. [[User:The Tom|The Tom]] ([[User talk:The Tom|talk]]) 17:51, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
== Reply ==
Thanks a lot :) [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 14:25, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
==Upload==
Hi Gboyers, I'm asking if I could upload a GTA theme, for example "GTA IV - Main Theme.ogg". Um what are the available upload files is it Vorbis or MPEG3? And also what will be the licensing I should put to upload music? [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 13:05, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
:Okay then G, I'll have it up and running. Might take only minutes. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 01:49, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
::Okay so I have uploaded the theme song, more theme songs about GTA are coming. But there is something to tell, well I have been thinking of making a template for the music of GTA something like [[Template:Music]], that is similar to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Listen Template:Listen] of Wikipedia, although it will be modified. That way it can be used on all other game articles. I thought it could be a good idea. Your decision G. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 13:54, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
:::They are really fine, having them on articles is very good idea. But I was thinking of a template that could have good information such as this [http://es.gta.wikia.com/wiki/GTA_IV#Tema one] and I also have tons of ogg files but that is up to you G. That is up to you G, I really like the {{template|YoutubeAudio}}. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 12:36, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well okay then, but maybe tomorrow as it is almost 10:00 PM here and I got to sleep. I'll work on that G, thanks. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 13:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
::<strike>G I have a difficulty creating the {{template|audio}}. I still have a small knowledge about creating templates (as I only know how to create infobox templates). And also I don't seem to combine both the {{template|YoutubeAudio}} and ogg files at the same time.</strike>
::I'll try to make the template G I promise. I still have some difficulty about creating templates but that might take some time. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 02:21, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
:::It's amazing G, I mean way to amazing! Such a very perfect template I've ever seen, even better than in Wikipedia. [[User:ExtremoMania|<span title="Visit me" style="display:inline-block"><font size="4" face="Broadway">'''ExtremoMania'''</font></span>]] [[User talk:ExtremoMania|<span title="Message me"><sup><u>'''Talk To Me This Way'''</u></sup></span>]] 02:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
== Pedestrian Dialogue pages idea ==
Hi G, there is a user on youtube who has uploaded a ton of videos for nearly each pedestrian in most of the games. I'll send you a link to what I mean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lj5C7plSR4
So rather then Pedestrian Dialogue pages being a wall full of quotes, do you think we can use these videos instead with the youtube user's permission of course. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 14:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
:Your recent edit to the quotes page was the idea I had, but rather then keep the written quotes, shall we delete them? As it would save a lot of space, and we could get more pedestrian audio files on the page. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 15:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
::Opps my bad. I'll get working on the pages straight away. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 15:18, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
== Reply ==
Hi G, when you're used to a stressful, drama filled wiki like I am, then a nice, relaxed, positive environment such as this wiki takes some getting used to. That is what I meant by it not being the same. I meant no disrespect or anything in that comment. I like this wiki, and it going to take some getting used to.
Anyways, I asked for my tools back, and partly the reason I became an Admin and B'crat in the first place was to help maintain what you guys created over there in the first place as it is never going to be deleted, and it would be vandalised mercilessly. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 18:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
:Usually it takes me time to get used to something new anyways. I remember when I first started editing Wikia, it was cause I was sick of editing at Wikipedia. Took me time to get used to it, but I enjoyed it from the start. I enjoy it here and I am sure I will edit here, aswell as maintaining what you guys left behind. Sounds a bit selfish I know, but I'd rather that then have vandals destroy what you created. [[User:Messi1983|Messi1983]] ([[User talk:Messi1983|talk]]) 19:13, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
== Template:Location ==
Hi Gboyers,
I made a template a month or two ago which shows the neighbouring locations of places in the GTA world, with the intention that it would help people identify surrounding areas to travel around easier (and of course just in case people are curious at the 'geographical' positioning of places). I am struggling with plotting some of the cardinal points however as some places which appear to be south of the location can be passed as Southeast, East, West, Southwest ect. Also, rural areas I will need to do (such as [[Montgomery]]) are very much detached from other locations which makes it increasingly difficult to plot surrounding areas. I now come to question if this template is beneficial, good idea in the first place. I don't want to spend my time making something which is no real use. I personally think it can work but I need additional support and help to complete this for every location as i'm sure you know there are an awful lot. Any chance I could use some of your help to improve the idea or finish the current one? Thanks--[[User:Montario|Montario]] ([[User talk:Montario|talk]]) 19:37, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
== Questions, the non-frequently asked kind ==
Hello Gboy.  First, let me introduce you to me. *sigh* the wiki would not let me post my references here.  I have posted the links on my user page. I'm a bureaucrat/admin of two wikis, an admin only of a third and have done some editing almost everywhere.  I'm fairly fluent in creating templates and adjusting the user interface. I also have some familiarity with the semi-bot AWB (linked on my user page). Now that I have introduced myself a little, my questions.
# I've noticed that your {{ns:User}}:Gboyers has a fancy rank icon next to it, how did you accomplish that?<br />Is it a simple JavaScript that appends the icon if name = user / rank, is it a css ":before {content: "icon code"}", or is it an extension / widget that you created/installed?
# What extension are you using that puts the little box on your talk page that tells if you are on-line or not?
I think just those two questions to start.. If you could please post your response on my home wiki talk page (linked below as "talk"), I would very much appreciate that -- Otherwise I will check back in 3-5 days for your response. :D ~-~ [[User:Technical_13|ShoeMaker]] ( <sup class="plainlinks">[http://ddowiki.com/page/User:Technical_13 home]</sup> <span style="color: #FF00AA; text-decoration: blink;">&bull;</span> <sub class="plainlinks">[http://ddowiki.com/page/User_talk:Technical_13 talk]</sub> ) on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 12:02:12 (EDT)
==Password==
Hey Gboyers, it's me GTAjaxoxo. I've been inactive for a while. When I decided to log in, I typed in my password. But it said wrong password.
When I tried to recover my password, it said: Log in. So that's why I decided to create this account and try to contact you. Don't think I'm doing sockpuppetry. Since I'm trying to recover my password in my account GTAjaxoxo.
Hope you can help me.
:Never mind, I remembered my password. --<font face="Pricedown" color="#000000" size="3">[[User:GTAjaxoxo|GTAjaxoxo]]</font><font face="Diploma" color="#FFF8DC" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:GTAjaxoxo|(Discuss)]]</sup></font> 06:35, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I sent an email to your registered email address but didn't get a reply. Please make sure your email in [[Special:Preferences]] is up to date so you can reset your password in future. I'll look into the password reset functionality and hopefully fix the problem with it asking you to log in. Thanks - [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 13:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
But, I didn't get an email. Where did you send it to?--<font face="Pricedown" color="#000000" size="3">[[User:GTAjaxoxo|GTAjaxoxo]]</font><font face="Diploma" color="#FFF8DC" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:GTAjaxoxo|(Discuss)]]</sup></font> 07:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
== Drug Enforcement Administration and Bureau of Narcotics merge ==
The discussion of merging these two pages has been going on for a while now, and I was wondering if you could merge the two, since according to [[:Category:merge]], a staff member must be asked to do it. Thanks. [[User:88FanNASCAR]] May 12, 2012, 12:40 EDT
:No problem, those have been merged. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 13:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
== Awesome ==
Rockstar invited you to play Max Payne 3. Maximum Respect achieved {{unsigned|Mancl692}}
:Thanks, it was awesome! [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 13:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
::Wow! So, Gerard, how was the game? I have ordered it a few days ago. Is it worth the money? -- [[User:Ilan xd|Ilan xd]] ([[User talk:Ilan xd|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|edits]]) 10:53, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:As you can see from [[Max Payne 3|my review]] it's an awesome game, awesome for both single and multiplayer, which is unusual. Definitely worth the money if you like this sort of shooter at all. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 18:24, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah, I like those kind of shooters. Well, it is a Rockstar game, so no wonder that this game is so great. I liked your review :) -- [[User:Ilan xd|Ilan xd]] ([[User talk:Ilan xd|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ilan xd|edits]]) 11:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
== Picture from a free source? ==
Hey Gboyers, I have a question about [[:File:SanAndreas-GTASA-map-terrain.jpg|SanAndreas-GTASA-map-terrain.jpg]]. Is this file created by you or from a free source? If you're asking why, I'm gonna upload it in Wikipedia. --<font face="Pricedown" color="#000000" size="3">[[User:GTAjaxoxo|GTAjaxoxo]]</font><font face="Diploma" color="#FFF8DC" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:GTAjaxoxo|(Discuss)]]</sup></font> 06:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
:That map was generated from a program called "Map Viewer" by [http://www.steve-m.com Steve M]. Even if the program is "free", the map itself isn't because it was created by Rockstar.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 16:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
::Spaceeinstein is right - this is essentially one big screenshot (albeit taken using special software), and all the ''content'' of the image is created by Rockstar. I do not believe Wikipedia's policy on image licensing would allow you to use this, as it probably wouldn't fit under their 'fair use' guidelines as being necessary. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 18:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
== Re: Character Infoboxes ==
Hey! Thanks, yes, I regret having to say I haven't been very active lately. Real life commitments has taken up too much time for me to be able to do any real work here, things have calmed down in the last few days though. I've seen you work on these infoboxes for a few days now and I have to say the results look great. I think adding comments and such is easy to understand. Of course, I'll be glad to help now that I have got more free time! [[User:Andreaz1|Andreaz1]] ([[User talk:Andreaz1|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Andreaz1|edits]]) 23:01, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi again! I really like the new character infoboxes and I know that this is a big ask, but could it be fixed so that they work for people who have "dual" nationalities, like [[Francis McReary]], at least so that they allow you to enter more than country? Thanks! [[User:Andreaz1|Andreaz1]] ([[User talk:Andreaz1|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Andreaz1|edits]]) 17:20, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I thought the same thing. I also think that "nationality" should mean where they were born, as you feel the same way I'll do that from now on. As I haven't played GTA IV some of them were a bit hard to judge for me and that's why I asked. Thanks! [[User:Andreaz1|Andreaz1]] ([[User talk:Andreaz1|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Andreaz1|edits]]) 18:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
== Grand Theft Mod Status? ==
Hey There Gboyers,
Can you inform me what's the status of Grand Theft Mods? I see it's inactive, and no staff at all. --[[User:Byzantine95|Byzantine95]] ([[User talk:Byzantine95|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Byzantine95|edits]]) 17:22, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I'd be willing to step up and help out as Staff. Are there any requirements that I need to meet? I was going to go in and creating pages and templates, etc to get things ready and what not. Is it possible to request Admin rights to help out or no? --[[User:Byzantine95|Byzantine95]] ([[User talk:Byzantine95|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Byzantine95|edits]]) 19:02, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I understand perfectly where you coming from, and you hit the nail on the head regarding Wikia. I will renew my request once I get some solid contributions flowing on both wikis.
Am I able to create new templates as well?
Regards, --[[User:Byzantine95|Byzantine95]] ([[User talk:Byzantine95|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Byzantine95|edits]]) 02:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
As for Grand Theft Mods?--[[User:Byzantine95|Byzantine95]] ([[User talk:Byzantine95|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Byzantine95|edits]]) 06:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Ahh I see. Alright, Expect some templates, etc set up. After I get things set up, I will see if I require any rights, and I'll let you know. --[[User:Byzantine95|Byzantine95]] ([[User talk:Byzantine95|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Byzantine95|edits]]) 07:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
== Page Loading ==
Hey Gboyers,
I've been having some trouble browsing this wiki. Nearly every page takes around one minute to load (some take forever), and it took me two minutes just to open the editor up (to add this message to your talk page).
Other websites are fine, and it's only this site the issue has occurred on. I can't use the search bar (on this wiki) as it will load forever. I even did an experiment by typing in something in the search bar, left it, came back 30 minutes later to find it still loading. I can't even view my own profile, and I had to use Google to find your profile. But yeah, this has got annoying over the last few days. I've been re-playing GTA III, and some of the older GTA's, using this wiki as a guide, and it's been a daunting task to load a simple page.
I hope to become more active on this wiki soon, but before that, I want to get rid of this issue. Also, it just took two minutes to preview this page.
Thanks in advance for any help or support you can offer,
--<font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="3">[[User:Fairnick68|Fairnick68]]</font><font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:Fairnick68|(talk)]]</sup></font> 15:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:What a coincidence, I could pretty much sum this up by saying "+1". I've been having the same problem for a few days. I didn't think about it as websites occasionally have hiccups like this but it's been going on for a few days now, and now that I see I'm not alone... [[User:Andreaz1|Andreaz1]] ([[User talk:Andreaz1|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Andreaz1|edits]]) 17:47, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Hey guys, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I have been aware that it's been running a little slow, particularly at night, but I didn't realise it was such a problem. I'm looking into it to see what the problem is and how we can fix it, and I'm in the process of trying some things right now. At the moment for me, it's alternating between loading very slow and loading okay. - [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 18:37, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:I think I found the main source of the problem, let me know if it clears up. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup>
Pages and user profiles load fast now, but it still took me one minute to open up the editor on this page.  --<font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="3">[[User:Fairnick68|Fairnick68]]</font><font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:Fairnick68|(talk)]]</sup></font> 19:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:Still takes forever to load ''any'' page for me. I thought it was weird that it was just  ''this'' site that seemed to be loading slow (over so many days)...'''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 00:48, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
:You're right, still slow. Any improvement now? How long has this been happening for everyone? [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 05:33, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Most pages seem to be working normally now, though edit pages are still slow. That being said, at some points it ''does'' seem to work as usual, and then randomly decides to go slow again. As for how long it's been happening: At least a few days, though I can't give a much better indication than that as I haven't really been paying attention to it (TBH, I was concerned about my own computer/network more than I thought it was the wiki's problem) '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 08:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
:To be honest, there's not much difference. I also have the odd moments of pages loading normally but I had that before too. I remember the first time I really reacted to the page loading so slow was after I made [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=Missions_in_GTA_III&diff=prev&oldid=360741 this] edit, but it might have started a day or two before that. [[User:Andreaz1|Andreaz1]] ([[User talk:Andreaz1|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Andreaz1|edits]]) 17:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
He's right, it's back to being extremely slow. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 02:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
:Actually, I may be wrong about this, but it seems to be related to the time of day (and therefore perhaps traffic). '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 11:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Time of day isn't just traffic, it's things like when the server does its backing-up and when the wiki regenerates its caches, that's why I'm asking you guys to let me know which times of day are slower than others (if that is the case) to help me trace the problem! Otherwise I'll have to disable everything and see what speeds it back up. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 17:53, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
:It doesn't seem like time of day matters. I'm editing at a time that I'm guessing is at the lowest peak of visitors. Right now the entire site seems to only grind to a halt when the edit or view history links are clicked. After a while of loading, the site is back to reasonable speed until those links are clicked again.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 10:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Okay - how about now? Space was right, I hadn't realised that visiting the edit/history pages slowed down ''other'' pages visited afterwards, which was messing up the things I was testing. I narrowed it down to 1 dodgy extension which has been removed. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 11:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's running smoothly now. Thanks.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 18:46, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
== Mission special vehicle tables ==
I couldn't think of a better way to word the headline, sorry about that.
Anyhoo, I've had this idea for a while about making and adding tables to mission pages. These would include the special vehicles that appear in that mission. I think it would be an easy and quick way of summing up information on the page. If done right it would look stylish but subtle yet catch the eye of people who don't feel like reading the many lines of trivia where this information could have been included previously. It could also be a good way of sharing information that is maybe not as well known to everybody.
I have played around with two styles, let me use the mission [[Loose Ends]] in GTA Vice City as an example, where it would look something like this:
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! colspan="3" | Special vehicle appearances
|-
|
| [[File:Admiral-GTAVC-LooseEnds-front.jpg|200px]]<br>'''[[Admiral]]'''
| [[File:Pony-GTAVC-LooseEnds-front.jpg|200px]]<br>'''[[Pony]]'''
|-
|'''Special properties'''
|Black
|Black
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
! colspan="2" | Special vehicle appearances
|-
| [[File:Admiral-GTAVC-LooseEnds-front.jpg|200px]]<br>Black '''[[Admiral]]'''
| [[File:Pony-GTAVC-LooseEnds-front.jpg|200px]]<br>Black '''[[Pony]]'''
|-
|}
I like the second one better, it's more compact but I also like having a separate row for the special properties like in the first one, maybe you know a way of merging the two? I'm not very good at tables so they could probably be done to look snazzier, but I would like your opinion on the idea. I think adding them in the Trivia section of the mission pages would probably be the best. So, what do you think? Is it the start of a good idea or should I just scrap it? Thanks [[User:Andreaz1|Andreaz1]] ([[User talk:Andreaz1|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Andreaz1|edits]]) 20:16, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
== Grand Theft Auto V Era (Changes to the Wiki) ==     
Hey Gboyers, excited for the upcoming [[Grand Theft Auto V]] I assume? Haha I sure as hell am, impatiently waiting for a new trailer.<br>
I was wondering how some of the Wiki pages regarding [[Eras]] would work if it turns out that GTA V is the same universe as [[Grand Theft Auto IV]] (which I'm assuming it is). Will any Wiki pages about the Era be changed to ''Grand Theft Auto IV, V Era''? or would everything in the fifth game just be referenced under anything about the fourth era? I was just curious because pages like the timelines and [[Years]] will be taking an impact with the release of GTA V. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] ([[User talk:Grand Theft AJ|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Grand Theft AJ|edits]]) 06:20, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
:Of course I'm very excited! This issue has already been discussed to death, so I'll summarise: GTA V will forever be treated as a new era, no matter what.
:This is because eras are not the same as universes - eras are OUR logical grouping of the games (based on the numbered games) to make everything easier to explain.
:For example. If we count GTA V as a new era, and something appears in both the IV and V eras (and if we need to explain that), then we simply have to say [[XYZ in the GTA IV and V Eras]] - which is easy. If we mashed GTA V (and subsequent games) into the GTA IV era, and we needed to show how something was different, we'd have to say [[XYZ in GTA IV, The Lost and Damned, The Ballad of Gay Tony and GTA Chinatown Wars]] - which is ridiculous.
:Firstly, there is no information (at all) to suggest that GTA V will continue from or bear any relation to GTA IV. A lot of people are hoping that CJ or Paddy will return, but there has been nothing to suggest this at all other than untrue rumours. Quite often eras make ''references'' to each other and feature the same city/vehicle/brand names, there might even be a cameo from a couple of overlapping characters, but there's nothing to suggest it'll be any different than the jump between the III and IV eras.
:Eras are based almost entirely on the numbered games. GTA III starts the III era; GTA IV starts the IV era; and GTA V starts the V era. Even if the games are similar, they still start a new era, because that's the simplest and most logical grouping that helps us to explain everything with ease.
:Eras are logical groupings of games based on the new numbered games. Doing that automatically groups games that are ''very very'' closely related (like III/VC/SA/LCS/VCS or IV/TLAD/TBOGT/CW) - with the same sorts of engine, graphics, and closely-related storylines. These games are almost impossible to divide down further. Don't forget that GTA 1 and 2 were grouped as being in the '2D universe' by Rockstar - but we still class them as separate eras because lots of things are different between them and it makes it simpler to organise (it's not very difficult to mention both eras).
:The reason we use eras is to make everything easy. If we did not have eras, we'd have to have enormous lists of which game everything appeared in. So instead of saying [[Vice City in GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas, GTA Liberty City Stories, GTA Vice City Stories, GTA Advance]] or [[Vice City between GTA III and GTA Vice City Stories]] we group it all into the ''number'' of that group of games, into an era - [[Vice City in GTA III Era]].
:So I hope it's clear that, even if the games turn out to be similar (which there is no evidence to suggest), we will still group them separately, which makes everything much much easier no matter what. That means we can easily mention both eras together, and we don't have to list the games separately. Yes, it's not an official way to group the games, but it's based on the official way they bring out a new numbered game whenever they change stuff. I hope that helps. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 12:14, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah I know how the Eras work and whatnot, it's just the [[GTA III Era|Grand Theft Auto III Era]] and [[GTA IV Era|Grand Theft Auto IV Era]] are different universes, whereas [[Grand Theft Auto V]] (Introducing the fifth Era) can still be in the same universe as GTA IV. Like [[Grand Theft Auto III|GTA III]] and [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]] are in the same universe, that was mainly what my comment was about, but now I understand all that info will be seperated with the Era category. Thanks for the information, and enjoy the wait haha. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] ([[User talk:Grand Theft AJ|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Grand Theft AJ|edits]]) 03:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Yeah Universes are the big over-arching dividers that Rockstar use (separating the 3 unrecognisably-different categories of games), Eras are a smaller division (where most features/vehicles etc are the same), and then you have can divide either by individual locations (which could have a couple of games within an era) or by platform (console/mobile). Don't forget that the [[GTA 1 Era]] and [[Grand Theft Auto 2|GTA 2 Era]] are both in the '2D Universe' but we group them into separate eras as everything is still different - only the style of gameplay and top-down view are related. See this table for an explanation, and I hope it makes sense! [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 04:33, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
{| class=wikitable style="text-align: center;"
!Universe
|colspan=4|2D
|colspan=6|3D
|colspan=6|HD
|-
!Era
|colspan=3|1
|colspan=1|2
|colspan=6|III
|colspan=4|IV
|colspan=2|V
|-
!GAME
|width=20|1
|width=20|L69
|width=20|L61
|width=20|2
|width=20|3
|width=20|VS
|width=20|SA
|width=20|A
|width=20|LCS
|width=20|VCS
|width=20|IV
|width=20|TLAD
|width=20|BOGT
|width=20|CW
|width=20|V
|width=20|''V2''
|}
== Hi ==
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[[User:Big Reyes|Big Reyes]] ([[User talk:Big Reyes|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Big Reyes|edits]]) 15:26, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
== Two questions ==
Hey Gboyers, how are you?
I've got two things on my mind at the moment.
First, is it possible to get a name change on here?
Secondly, I joined here back in '10, but I can't find any of my edits from 2011 or before. Almost as if I never existed before 2012.
To be honest, it's not a big deal. I'm embarrassed of my past on here anyway, I had terrible grammar and spelling. So the way I see it, it's like a fresh start. But I don't want it to seem as if I'm a newb on here. Maybe the move from Wikia to here had something to do with it, since I had to re-create an account, but I did it under the same name. But wasn't that back in 2010? Even after that, I remember my earlier edits being shown under 'contributions'.
If you could get back to me, it would be greatly appreciated. --<font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="3">[[User:Fairnick68|Fairnick68]]</font><font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:Fairnick68|(talk)]]</sup></font> 15:20, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for taking care of the edit history. I'll put a message on your Wikia account. I hope I still remember my password, it's been a couple years since I've edited there!
About the name change; I wouldn't want you to go through the trouble, and the technical issues. But here's my reason; It's that I want it to be the same as my name on forums, and accounts on other websites, that way users on those sites will recognize me here. If that's enough of a reason, then would it be possible for you to change it to Original Light? If you could, it would be greatly appreciated! And I'm not really the type of person to ask for name changes! This would be the first and last time I'd ever ask you to change it...
Edit: Do you want me to leave a message on your GTA Wikia account, or Wikia.com account?
--<font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="3">[[User:Fairnick68|Fairnick68]]</font><font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:Fairnick68|(talk)]]</sup></font> 19:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I left you a message on your GTA Wikia account. --<font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="3">[[User:Fairnick68|Fairnick68]]</font><font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:Fairnick68|(talk)]]</sup></font> 01:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks so much. I'll put my old username on my new userpage.
Again, thank you!
Edit: My signature still shows my old username, what should I do to fix this? --<font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="3">[[User:Fairnick68|Fairnick68]]</font><font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:Fairnick68|(talk)]]</sup></font> 13:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Nevermind, I fixed it. I went to preferences and edited the signature. Thanks again for everything. --<font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="3">[[User:Original Light|Original Light]]</font><font face="Papyrus" color="blue" size="2"><sup> [[User talk:Fairnick68|(talk)]]</sup></font> 15:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
== Plagiarism heads-up ==
Hi again Gboyers.  We've had another case of a user who got blocked, ran off to another wiki about Grand Theft Auto and started trying to build it up by plagiarism.  The user's name is Joshualeverburg1 (and he has a sockpuppet named Big.boy111). He's already plagiarized one image from you guys, [[:File:Serrano-GTAV-trailer.jpg]] ([http://gtav.wikia.com/wiki/File:Serrano-GTAV-trailer.jpg his plagiarism of it]).  Just letting you know so you can keep an eye on the situation.  It probably wouldn't hurt to complain to Wikia either.  <b>[[User:McJeff|Jeff]]</b> <sup>[[User talk:McJeff|(talk this way)]]</sup> / <sub>[[Special:Contributions/McJeff|(stalk this way)]]</sub> 23:55, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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