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| == Mission: Reuniting the Families == | | <center>[http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:GuildKnight&action=edit§ion=new Talk2me] | [[Special:Emailuser/GuildKnight|EmailMe]] | [[User talk:GuildKnight/Archives|Archives]]</center> |
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| Hi, I'm AK47bandit, and I made a major edit to the "Reuniting the Families" mission page yesterday. I understand that you wish to standardize and focus on the mission pages, and I also think this is a great idea!
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| Having a walkthrough for each mission and details about objectives and unlockables is essential for any mission page. However, this is mostly helpful for reguler players of the game, comparing mission details against one another, or people trying to go through the game for the first time.
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| I think that if a summary (written from a cinimatic viewpoint) of each mission would be included on each page, it would help show how the mission is important to the plot of the game. It would also be much more easily understood by people who have not had any experiance with the game firsthand. One of the awesome features of the game is how the story supports and compliments the gameplay. Also, I hope that this wiki could provide information and help introduce GTA to people who have never played the game and are just plain curious. But I also understand that you don't want pages that are too long, but I think that consice summmarys could be included without making pages uncomfortably large.
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| In conclusion, I hope that I can contribute to this wiki. I don't mean to intentionally hamper any of your efforts to organize mission pages, and I hope I can help in any way possible. Also, I would like to remark that this wiki is much cooler than the regular wikipedia!
| | :Hi GK! Great to see you back! And congratulations too! Regarding the above, the watch tab is in the dropdown arrow next to 'view history' - I'll see if I can promote that to being a full tab. To get to your wiki-style userpage, you need to hit the orange button "[[Special:ToggleUserPage|Use Wiki Userpage]]". And yes, move is restricted to trusted members (which you now are) and staff. It's easy enough for people to use {{template|move}} or ask staff to do it, so it just avoids a lot of problems. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] 14:32, 18 October 2010 (BST) |
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| ''(Response on [[User talk:AK47bandit]])'' | | :Also, some images have not managed to be copied from Wikia, so we're having to copy these over manually. See [[issues]] for all the problems. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] 14:34, 18 October 2010 (BST) |
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| :: Just to chime in here, I think having detailed walkthroughs is super important for attracting new readers.. Walkthroughs are by far the most searched for thing for any game online. I would even suggest adding the work "walkthrough" to your page names so these articles show up on google searches, (i.e. GTA IV Walkthroughs/Reuniting the families or Reuniting the families Walkthrough) Just my two cents :) [[w:User:Angies|angies]]<staff /> ([[w:User talk:Angies|talk]]) 00:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC) | | ::Thanks on both counts! Ok, I see the watch option. I couldn't get it to load my wiki-style userpage earlier, it just refreshed the other one, but it's working now. And where's the move option? Also, what are we doing with the images? Just downloading them from the wikia and then uploading them here? I can help with that, too. --'''[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>talk2me</sup> 14:36, 18 October 2010 (BST) |
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| :::That's not a bad idea - "walkthrough" always did seem to get a good few hits from google. Although probably we could do as good a job by using <nowiki>==Walkthrough==</nowiki> as the subheading for the step-by-step detail inside mission articles, and having [[Category:Walkthroughs]] for all pages that involve it? I don't think meta tags are particularly useful these days, but the [[MediaWiki:Pagetitle]] you were just editing would be a good place to have the word. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 00:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC) | | :Oh sorry no it wasn't trusted users, it was inspectors/moderators/patrollers. I've made you admin again so you should be able to move now from the top tabs or dropdown. And yes, we're just saving and uploading any missing images. You don't need to make the page or add the copyright stuff, as the File: pages are all there already, just not the images themselves. One thing to note is that some galleries in pages aren't working even though the images are there, as we now need to add "File:" to the start of every image name (unlike on wikia). [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] 15:05, 18 October 2010 (BST) |
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| ::::As seen in the example I gave AK47bandit, [[Tagging Up Turf]] uses a "Quick Walkthrough" and a "Detailed Walkthrough." I also agree that it is very important to include the word "walkthrough," and intend to eventually do so on every mission page. --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC) | | ::Ah, thanks! And be sure to let me know if I do anything wierd, since I've been away for a while! :) --'''[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>talk2me</sup> 15:15, 18 October 2010 (BST) |
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| == Patrolling== | | :It's possible for Gerard to enable a watch "button" (outside of the drop down menu) instead of the "Watch" tab, using <code>$wgVectorUseIconWatch = true;</code> - however, I just tried it out in a test wiki in my localhost, and it's really poorly implemented. There isn't even any way of knowing whether you're already watching the page or not, the button is identical either way. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 02:19, 20 October 2010 (BST) |
| Congrats on your adminship.. the patrolling function is available in MW core, see http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Recent_changes_patrol for some basic info [[w:User:Angies|angies]]<staff /> ([[w:User talk:Angies|talk]]) 00:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
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| :Hello. I've enabled this feature for GTA. Please let me know if you want it limited to admins. By default, any logged in user can patrol. [[User:Angela|Angela]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Angela|talk]]) 04:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
| | ==Welcome back== |
| | Just to say that it's great to see you back with us. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 00:12, 29 October 2010 (BST) |
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| == Mission Pages ==
| | :Thanks! I'm probably not going to be quite as active as I once was, considering my pregnancy (<tt>:D</tt>) but it's great to be back. I'm also still quite active on [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page the Elder Scrolls wiki], and I'm playing a lot of New Vegas at the moment, too (though I definitely won't be on [http://fallout.wikia.com ''that'' wiki], since it's a wikia), but it's great to be back among y'all. Feel free to point me to any conversations I should follow, since I don't have all the appropriate pages watched, anymore. --'''[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>talk2me</sup> 02:49, 29 October 2010 (BST) |
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| Thanks for the info! I'll try to help add on to mission pages, and keep my summaries precise and consice. If you need to reformat or if I need to edit my work, feel free to do so or give me a heads up! (The cutscenes are my favorite part of the game. People like Mike Toreno, Ryder, and Jizzy really crack me up. :) )
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| [[User:AK47bandit|AK47bandit]] 05:20, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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| == Editing ==
| | Hi, could you please fill out your section of the table at [[Grand Theft Wiki:Staff/Roles]]? That page explains the reasons, but we're just trying to assign staff some responsibility and ownership of their own sections, and give you a bit more room to do what you want to do. Thanks - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] 00:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC) |
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| Yeah, I think I'll clean up some of the vechicle pages. If you could look over the edit I did on the page ''[[The Mothership]]'' the truth's van, and leave me some feedback and advice, that'd be great!
| | == Alumni == |
| [[User:AK47bandit|AK47bandit]] 05:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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| == Gang Warfare ==
| | Hey Carlee, how are things? I just wanted to let you know that I've moved you into a new user group called [[Special:ListUsers/alumni|Alumni]]. This is a group we're now using for inactive/retired staff who we still trust with their administrative rights. |
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| On the gang warfare page my post was deleted because of "innaccurate information". I put N/A as a gang colour for the mafia, because although some members of the mob might dress in grey, it is not the universal gang colour.
| | This means that you can come and go as much as you please, be as inactive or active as you like, and still be able to do everything you need to do. All the rights of the new Alumni group are listed on [[Special:ListGroupRights]], but in short you can still move/delete pages and block users. Alumni are also not listed on the staff page so there shouldn't be users bugging you with questions. |
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| That is why I felt it should be N/A. {{unsigned|Gta3vcsalcsvcs4}}
| | You're still eligible to read and contribute to discussions and the [http://www.thegtaplace.com/forums/forum/136-grand-theft-wiki-staff-discussion/ GTW Staff Forum], just let me know if you need me to enable your TGTAP account to be able to see it. |
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| ''Response on [[User talk:Gta3vcsalcsvcs4]]'' --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 03:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
| | Hopefully this works out best for everyone, with less pressure on you whilst we still benefit from your experience! Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC) |
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| Hi, [[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]. Thanks for the list. There are things on there I was thinking of as well, so I would be more than happy to accomplish what I can from your list. As I'm sure you read, I am focusing on San Fierro first. I will then move on to Los Santos, Las Venturas, and then towns/counties. Thanks again, and happy editing! '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 05:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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| Style guide is definitely required. [[Grand Theft Wiki:Layout Guide]] is an old one from before the GTW merge. Match it up with [[Grand Theft Wiki:Consistency]] and the (limited) [[Help]] documentation. Are you aiming this to be Policy (rules) or Help (advice)? The term "guide" implies guidelines, but people can stray outside the guidelines if they know what they're doing. Either way is fine, you just need to make sure you're writing it for one or the other. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, it needs some work still. I also plan to include a list of recommended layouts; Game pages, Mission pages, Weapon pages, Vehicle pages, and Place pages layouts. Maybe it also needs a note on American vs. British spellings, and a link to help using wiki markup...
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| :Also, I like the "guidelines" idea... "people can stray outside the guidelines if they know what they're doing." --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 20:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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| I don't currently use the IRC but can. However, at times this may not prove to be a good way to chat, because the IRC does not always work, for me at least. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 23:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :I also had trouble with a few IRC clients... what do you use? Anyway, it's better to use the wiki talk pages for decisions about the site so that there's a record of the conversation... but a lot of times it's just easier to have the quicker conversation that's only possible with chat. What about the GTAWiki chat widget? --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 02:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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| ::I have no idea what the chat widget is, as I've never chatted to anyone on here other than through talk pages. I now use the Wikia IRC channel to log in, which seems at this point to work fine. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 08:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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| :::The chat widget can be added to the column on the right. The button at the top of the screen that lets you choose "My Talk", "My Watchlist", etc., also lets you choose "Manage Widgets", and then you can add the chat widget, though I think I may be the only one that uses it. Anyway, I should be back in the IRC room late Sunday. --[[:w:c:gta:User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 05:56, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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| I've had a look at the template, but can't find out why the white box is on the template. I shall leave a message on Gboyers discussion page, as he'd probably have a better idea of how to fix it. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 10:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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| Ok i'll keep that in mind, thanks ;) [[User:PrivateSniper|PrivateSniper]] 01:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
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| Hey GK. I'll be away for a week or two, so I'll leave the wiki in your hands. I'd appreciate it if you could keep an eye on things as usual, and make sure nobodys doing anything significantly awful. If you need any support, speak to a member of wikia staff (eg Kirkburn, Lleowen, Angies, TOR) and show them this message if you need clearance. There shouldn't be any problems (no more than usual) but we need somebody on-watch just in case. Thanks - [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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| Also, as you may be aware, Wikia are planning to roll out a new Monaco skin on every wiki on Tuesday. This skin will become the default skin for every user, and we will not be able to change that (unlike how we can now). The main difference will be that the main page (only the main page) will have to change to be two columns, and an advert will appear in the top of the right column - see [[:w:c:wowwiki|WoWWiki]] for a good example. See [[:w:c:help:Help:Main_page_column_tags|this]] for instructions on how to do this. I'll try and grab some time online to style this, but I would appreciate you trying to fix the main page (at least temporarily) if it breaks. If it breaks really badly, feel free to make a new one until it can be done properly. Nothing wrong with copying the main page from another wiki so long as everything is changed (obviously). I'm just asking cos I may not be able to get round to that for a couple of days, so we may need (at least) an interim solution. But if you can make a decent new homepage yourself, that would be ideal. I'd suggest asking [[User:Kirkburn]] for help. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 01:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
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