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::I realize that this is a different perspective than yours, but I hope you will understand that it comes from passion for the Wikia community and a desire to help this wiki recover and grow -- [[User:Sannse|Sannse]]<staff /> <small>([[w:c:community:Forum:Community_Central_Forum|help forum]] | [[w:c:community:Blog:Wikia_Staff_Blog |blog]])</small> 23:55, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
::I realize that this is a different perspective than yours, but I hope you will understand that it comes from passion for the Wikia community and a desire to help this wiki recover and grow -- [[User:Sannse|Sannse]]<staff /> <small>([[w:c:community:Forum:Community_Central_Forum|help forum]] | [[w:c:community:Blog:Wikia_Staff_Blog |blog]])</small> 23:55, October 13, 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for replying. And I do understand that your loyalty is with wikia. But really the people who use the wiki must make up their own minds. As Gboyers said before, we are not posting a message saying "Forget this wiki, come to our new one!" We are just letting visitors and users know that the community they worked with has moved. We respect user decisions. If they wish to stay here, they can. If they want to move with us because they are used to our community, rules and practices, they can come with us. Even if the notice was only up for a couple of weeks, that would most likley be enough. We are not forcing users to move with us. The whole move was in the hands of the community. And they agreed a move would be a much better alternative to staying on a wiki littred with ads and an undesirable skin. Improvement is a point of view. To a small percentage of people, the new look is great. For a larger percentage, the new look could be better, but is alright. For the largest by far percentage, the new look is disgusting, puts ads over content and makes the wiki look horrible. One of the other main reasons we moved is because of the restrictive new policies. We are only able to customise colours and backround images. You in wikia staff believe (or perhaps don't believe, but pretend to do so as you may become redundant from your jobs otherwise) that this will result in a better community, but when 95 percent of the community disagree, does it really make things better? In addition to this, I am not liking the attitude staff are presenting. Although both you and Sarahs comments seem warm and civil, it is not hard to recognise the true meaning behing them; "We want to make money, we don't want people to move with you, we want them to see our ads which nobody clicks on anyway". Also, wikia staff by '''no means''' outrank admins on idividual wikis. Nor do you have a right to remove rights from year long admins over a site notice. These are '''our wikis'''. And '''we are able to customise our CSS, templates and sitenotices any way we chose.''' I am guessing if a smaller wiki moved, such as a wiki with only 50-100 pages, you would not care less, as they don't make much money for you and there is no problem with them leaving.
Thank you for replying. And I do understand that your loyalty is with wikia. But really the people who use the wiki must make up their own minds. As Gboyers said before, we are not posting a message saying "Forget this wiki, come to our new one!" We are just letting visitors and users know that the community they worked with has moved. We respect user decisions. If they wish to stay here, they can. If they want to move with us because they are used to our community, rules and practices, they can come with us. Even if the notice was only up for a couple of weeks, that would most likley be enough. We are not forcing users to move with us. The whole move was in the hands of the community. And they agreed a move would be a much better alternative to staying on a wiki littred with ads and an undesirable skin. Improvement is a point of view. To a small percentage of people, the new look is great. For a larger percentage, the new look could be better, but is alright. For the largest by far percentage, the new look is disgusting, puts ads over content and makes the wiki look horrible. One of the other main reasons we moved is because of the restrictive new policies. We are only able to customise colours and backround images. You in wikia staff believe (or perhaps don't believe, but pretend to do so as you may become redundant from your jobs otherwise) that this will result in a better community, but when 95 percent of the community disagree, does it really make things better? In addition to this, I am not liking the attitude staff are presenting. Although both you and Sarahs comments seem warm and civil, it is not hard to recognise the true meaning behing them; "We want to make money, we don't want people to move with you, we want them to see our ads which nobody clicks on anyway". Also, wikia staff by '''no means''' outrank admins on idividual wikis. Nor do you have a right to remove rights from year long admins over a site notice. These wikis belong to the community, not Wikia, and '''we are able to customise our CSS, templates and sitenotices any way we chose.''' I am guessing if a smaller wiki moved, such as a wiki with only 50-100 pages, you would not care less, as they don't make much money for you and there is no problem with them leaving.


Anyways, away from all this banter. I just want '''two questions''' answered '''in yes or no format''', with brief reasons given as to why, and not some pre-written reply either:
Anyways, away from all this banter. I just want '''two questions''' answered '''in yes or no format''', with brief reasons given as to why, and not some pre-written reply either:
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:2. Will Grand Theft Wiki (and other wikis) be able to post a notice to the communty here that we have moved?
:2. Will Grand Theft Wiki (and other wikis) be able to post a notice to the communty here that we have moved?


Anyways, I apoligise for losing my head, I just can't stand to be very civil for much longer. And I '''definetly''' can't stand seeing all our hard work being given to some random person in the community. I'm hoping we can show a site notice, even a anon notice, saying that the community has moved. It's the least you could do for us for all the years of hard work we've put in. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 07:28, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
Anyways, I apoligise if I sound aggressive, but this is a very frustrating situation, and the people who lose out are the users. I '''definetly''' can't stand seeing everyone's our hard work being given to some random person in the community who wants to be in charge. I'm hoping we can show a site notice, even a anon notice, saying that the community has moved. It's the least you could do for us for all the years of hard work we've put in. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 07:28, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
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