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Since it is clear that Wikia are going to run this copy as a competitor to the legitimate Grand Theft Wiki, I have two requests. Firstly, change the site name and logo to something of Wikia's own, such as 'GTA Wikia'. That includes the pagetitle, project namespace etc. Secondly, permit a sitenotice that links to this page or similar, to allow users to know what's going on with their wiki and make their own decision about what to do. With those two reasonable requests fulfilled, my staff will leave this site alone and allow it to forge its own path as Wikia desire. [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/user:gboyers Gboyers] <sup>[http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/User_talk:Gboyers talk]</sup> 10:52, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
Since it is clear that Wikia are going to run this copy as a competitor to the legitimate Grand Theft Wiki, I have two requests. Firstly, change the site name and logo to something of Wikia's own, such as 'GTA Wikia'. That includes the pagetitle, project namespace etc. Secondly, permit a sitenotice that links to this page or similar, to allow users to know what's going on with their wiki and make their own decision about what to do. With those two reasonable requests fulfilled, my staff will leave this site alone and allow it to forge its own path as Wikia desire. [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/user:gboyers Gboyers] <sup>[http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/User_talk:Gboyers talk]</sup> 10:52, October 20, 2010 (UTC)


:Yes, a sitenotice that links to a page explaining the situation, this or another, is OK. I'd ask that it don't link directly to your new wiki, although I'm fine with the link to your wiki being on the explanation page. I also ask that the notice doesn't exclude the option of people staying. One used elsewhere, for example, was "An alternative version of this wiki is being set up, Please see <nowiki>[[the forum page]] for details</nowiki>." I will change the logo as soon as I can come up with something suitable. I'm not happy with changing the pagetitle, because that would have significant impact on this site's SEO and so the chances of it recovering over time. However, I would be prepared to make the logo show something other than "Grand Theft Wiki" (although I have a big aversion to anything like Grand Theftapedia... soooooo over-done ;)
:Yes, a sitenotice that links to a page explaining the situation, this or another, is OK. I'd ask that it don't link directly to your new wiki, although I'm fine with the link to your wiki being on the explanation page. I also ask that the notice doesn't exclude the option of people staying. One used elsewhere, for example, was "An alternative version of this wiki is being set up, Please see <nowiki>[[the forum page]] for details</nowiki>." I will change the logo as soon as I can come up with something suitable. I'm not happy with changing the pagetitle, because that would have significant impact on this site's SEO and so the chances of it recovering over time. However, I would be prepared to make the logo show something other than "Grand Theft Wiki" (although I have a big aversion to anything like Grand Theftapedia... soooooo over-done ;)


:Does that work? -- [[User:Sannse|Sannse]] 21:20, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
:Does that work? -- [[User:Sannse|Sannse]] 21:20, October 20, 2010 (UTC)


That sounds good to me. A sitenotice that links to [[Grand Theft Wiki:Community Portal/Oasis]] explaining the 'split' and offering users their own choice as to where they edit. As for the pagetitle, I just meant to reflect the logo and site name not being the words "Grand Theft Wiki" in that order (to avoid confusion and SEO penalties). What about the project namespace? I agree with avoiding Grand Theftapedia - unfortunately there are too many in the new generation who think "a wiki" means Wikipedia only and haven't heard of an encyclopaedia! I'm still disappointed Wikia is choosing to compete rather than work in partnership with the departed community, but I'm glad we can work this out civilly. [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/user:gboyers Gboyers] <sup>[http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/User_talk:Gboyers talk]</sup> 22:16, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
That sounds good to me. A sitenotice that links to [[Grand Theft Wiki:Community Portal/Oasis]] explaining the 'split' and offering users their own choice as to where they edit. As for the pagetitle, I just meant to reflect the logo and site name not being the words "Grand Theft Wiki" in that order (to avoid confusion and SEO penalties). What about the project namespace? I agree with avoiding Grand Theftapedia - unfortunately there are too many in the new generation who think "a wiki" means Wikipedia only and haven't heard of an encyclopaedia! I'm still disappointed Wikia is choosing to compete rather than work in partnership with the departed community, but I'm glad we can work this out civilly. [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/user:gboyers Gboyers] <sup>[http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/User_talk:Gboyers talk]</sup> 22:16, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
:I think that's the rub, neither of us want to lose the SEO from the existing title.  Perhaps your community can come up with something innovative for the new location? -- [[User:Sannse|Sannse]]<staff /> <small>([[w:c:community:Forum:Community_Central_Forum|help forum]] | [[w:c:community:Blog:Wikia_Staff_Blog |blog]])</small> 23:34, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
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