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 :No, I'm talking about all content that has been taken from WikiGTA. This includes all images, with or without the WikiGTA-tag. --[[User:Lantyz|Lantyz]] - WikiGTA crew 15:40, 29 March 2007 (BST)
-May i ask for permission to use some of them? Not them all but like the pic of Paulie Sindacco May i ask to use? [[User:George|George]] 17:05, 29 March 2007 (BST)
+::May i ask for permission to use some of them? Not them all but like the pic of Paulie Sindacco May i ask to use? [[User:George|George]] 17:05, 29 March 2007 (BST)
-:Screenshots from the game cannot be copyright to any particular site or person. Yes you may have pressed printscreen, but with nothing more than that it is the game developers that have the rights to images of the game. We believe it is fair to use screenshots of games to represent those games and the characters, vehicles and locations in those games. Likewise with the game logos, it is fair to use them to represent that game. I haven't examined all the images George has uploaded, but unless they contain actual work that WikiGTA has the rights to, then I see no reason why they should be removed from this site. Even if we did remove them, all we would do is go into the game and take the same screenshots... that is a pointless exercise. Looking at [[Special:Newimages]], there is not much that would count as work under WikiGTA copyright, although perhaps the more arty screenshots that have taken a bit of effort to create - those that are along the lines of desktop wallpaper - may be removed out of courtesy.
+Screenshots from the game cannot be copyright to any particular site or person. Yes you may have pressed printscreen, but with nothing more than that it is the game developers that have the rights to images of the game. We believe it is fair to use screenshots of games to represent those games and the characters, vehicles and locations in those games. Likewise with the game logos, it is fair to use them to represent that game. I haven't examined all the images George has uploaded, but unless they contain actual work that WikiGTA has the rights to, then I see no reason why they should be removed from this site. Even if we did remove them, all we would do is go into the game and take the same screenshots... that is a pointless exercise. Looking at [[Special:Newimages]], there is not much that would count as work under WikiGTA copyright, although perhaps the more arty screenshots that have taken a bit of effort to create - those that are along the lines of desktop wallpaper - may be removed out of courtesy. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]]
 ::Even then, there is a difference between using the work of others to illustrate a subject, and running through the pages of another website to copy every usefull screen.
+:True, but we do just use the images to illustrate the articles on the subject. We don't have a screenshot gallery or anything like that. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]]
-Also, I appreciate you coming here and talking, rather than forcibly removing the images yourself.
+Also, I appreciate you coming here and talking, rather than forcibly removing the images yourself. [[User:Xenon|Xenon]]
 :I'm not here to harass a fellow GTA-site, please do not get me wrong. I'm just here to let you know we would appreciate it if you wouldn't use our work. Because regardless of who holds the rights - it's still our work.
+::Good to know, and understandable, but I mean it's just a case
 I was also thinking about emailing the WikiGTA team, to see if we could contribute to (or become) the unopened English end of the site - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 17:17, 29 March 2007 (BST)
 : Naturally I can't give you an answer on that on my own, but we are still working on the English WikiGTA and figuring out how to cover most topics in English. However, unlike GTW, WikiGTA can only be edited by a selected group of editors to prevent spam and nonsence. A merge would mean that GTW or WikiGTA has to change it's approach. Any way, I'll pass through your idea.--[[User:Lantyz|Lantyz]] - WikiGTA crew 18:14, 29 March 2007 (BST)
+::Kind of defeats the objective of a wiki (in my view) - this is all about user generated content. The main defence against spam that GTW has is not allowing unregistered users to edit the site - meaning we can track and easily block everybody, and those people who only want to casually cause trouble can't be bothered to register. I think the merge would be a good idea as GTW has an established (but small) user base of regularly-contributing users, and some experienced wiki admins - something I would presume WikiGTA lacks om the English department at the moment. Out of interest, what restrictions does WikiGTA have on editing? - [[User:Xenon|Xenon]] 19:28, 29 March 2007 (BST)