Community:GTA IV Gripes/Characters: Difference between revisions

:{{Rebut}}There is an [[Secrets and Easter Eggs in GTA IV|Easter Egg]] that shows the previous protagonists along with "R.I.P."

::{{Gripe}}Where is the location to this easter egg?

{{Gripe}}Pedestrian conversations are repetitive and are no where near as funny as they used to be.

:{{Rebut}}Isn't the game supposed to be more serious? I mean come on, the games based in poor, old, drug and crime filled New York. Nothing funny about that. But i do agree they aren't as funny as prior games but I understand why Rockstar did that.

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{{Gripe}}Some of the characters are downright painful and tedious. i.e. Brucie, Dwayne etc.

::{{Gripe}}Or just another failure attempt of realism by R*.

:::{{Rebut}} It is not "just another failure attempt of realism", it was obviously a mistake in the programming and not R*'s fault.

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:{{Rebut}}Niko wasn't meant to like them. As Niko has said to Roman in a phone call, he only dates his online girlfriends to give him something to do.

:{{Rebut}}Despite her vainness (is that even a word?) and sheer lack of anything even remotely resembling intelligence, Alex turned out to be my favorite and the only one I have any interest in what she has to say.

{{Gripe}} Of all the characters, Carl 'CJ' Johnson is the only one considered dead??Carl is the only one considered canon??why

:{{Rebut}}All of the characters are considered canon, but all are dead.

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{{Gripe}}Niko spends all his time complaining about his life and tells Roman that there's no such thing as a clean start, yet when Dwayne complains about his past, Niko tells him to shut up and have fun!

:::::::{{Rebut}} Victor feels less out of place, in my opinion.

:::::::       {{Gripe}}   I absolutely agree. It's annoying to listen to Niko's constant ersatz-philosophy, then watch him head off to kill someone just because someone who he doesn't even like asked him to. In many cases, there is no compelling reason for why Niko does something, especially in the later stages of the game, when he doesn't have money troubles. All GTA3-era characters were were openly unrealistic, more resembling action movie characters than real people (even CJ somehow worked as a sort of comic-character straight guy in a surreal environment). In GTA IV, R* tries to give us a sense of (pseudo-)realism that simply doesn't fit with the genre. You can't have an ethical character kill 100 innocent bystanders every week and be friends with GTA's crazy, hilariously-clichéd game world.

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{{Gripe}} A minor nitpick, but I wanted to mention it. During the shootouts in most missions, Niko screams vicious obscenities at his opponents even though, in most cases, he has no logical reason to be enraged at them. During the shootout in the Majestic hotel to take out the diamond dealers, for example, they're just obstacles in the way of a job that needs to be done, nothing more. It seems more than a bit out of character that Niko screams something like "AAAARRRRRGGGHHH, MOTHERFUCKERS!" at people he's only shooting at because he's being paid to, because it's at odds with his supposedly calm and collected personality. I could understand if he only did so while fighting the goons working for Rascalov, for example, because they represent someone he despises, but the fact is that he gets this worked up while fighting ''anyone''. It's also a bit of a awkward jolt for me compared to what I'm thinking. (I'm usually thinking things like "target down" and "nade out" during a shootout. Yes, I play too many tactical shooters. >_>)

::::::{{Gripe}}Not really true. If a person becomes homeless, he/she will lose everything, and that means no house, cars towed away, become jobless, even lose a wife. GTA IV has no realism whatsoever when it comes to homeless people driving cars, ESPECIALLY when they lost everything.

:::::::{{Rebut}} Still not entirely true. A person can own a car that is paid off completely like a used car they bought from a private owner and that can happen before a person becomes homeless. So just because you're homeless doesn't mean you can't live an a car you officially own. Now getting the gas to power said car is another matter but can come down to stealing gas or getting enough money to drive it if possible.

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{{Gripe}}Niko is a Serbian. In a few missions he spoke serbian and that's not a serbian accent. Neither is Roman's or Florian's or Darko's.

:{{Rebut}} That's just the way Roman is, at first he was frightened, scared, and depressed, so Niko was being apoligetic, and slightly comforting, though when Roman finally tryed looking on the bright side at the new apartment, Niko realized Roman was fine, and decided to express how he was really feeling. They're two very complex characters haha.

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