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| caption = The primary members and "OG's" or "shot-callers" of the Grove Street Families from left to right: [[Ryder]], [[Big Smoke]], [[Carl Johnson]] and [[Sweet]]. | | caption = The primary members and "OG's" or "shot-callers" of the Grove Street Families from left to right: [[Ryder]], [[Big Smoke]], [[Carl Johnson]] and [[Sweet]]. | ||
| game = GTA San Andreas | | game = GTA San Andreas | ||
| locations = [[Ganton]]<br>[[Playa del Seville]]<br>[[Santa Maria Beach]]<br>[[Temple]]<br>[[Vinewood Cemetery]]<br>[[Glen Park]] <small>(After [[Doberman]], reclaimed again after [[Beat Down on B-Dup]])</small> <br>[[Idlewood]] <small>(after [[Grove 4 Life]])</small> | |||
| locations = [[Ganton]]<br>[[Playa del Seville]]<br>[[Santa Maria Beach]]<br>[[Temple]]<br>[[Vinewood Cemetery]]<br>[[Glen Park]] (After | | leaders = [[Sweet]]<br />[[Carl Johnson]] | ||
| leaders = | |||
| type = Street Gang | | type = Street Gang | ||
| enemies = [[Ballas]]<br />[[Los Santos Vagos]]<br />[[Varrios Los Aztecas]]<br />[[San Fierro Rifa]]<br />[[Russian Mafia]] | | enemies = [[Ballas]]<br />[[Los Santos Vagos]]<br />[[Varrios Los Aztecas]]<br />[[San Fierro Rifa]]<br />[[Russian Mafia]] | ||
| affiliations = [[Varrios Los Aztecas]] (briefly)<br />[[C.R.A.S.H.]] (formerly) | | affiliations = [[Varrios Los Aztecas]] <small>(briefly)</small> <br />[[C.R.A.S.H.]] <small>(formerly)</small> | ||
| colors = Green | | colors = Green | ||
| cars = [[Greenwood]]<br />[[Savanna]]<br />[[Voodoo]] | | cars = [[Greenwood]]<br />[[Savanna]]<br />[[Voodoo]] | ||
| weapons = [[Pistol]]<br />[[Tec-9]]<br />[[MP5]] (100% tags)<br />[[Desert Eagle]] (100% tags)<br />[[Knife]] (100% tags)<br />[[Micro Uzi]] (missions only) | | weapons = [[Pistol]]<br />[[Tec-9]]<br />[[MP5]] <small>(100% tags)</small><br />[[Desert Eagle]] <small>(100% tags)</small><br />[[Knife]] <small>(100% tags)</small><br />[[Micro Uzi]] <small>(missions only)</small> | ||
| businesses = Arms dealing<br> | | businesses = Arms dealing <br> Drug trafficking <small>(Big Smoke's crew)</small> | ||
| fronts = [[Grove Street]]<br />[[Johnson House]]<br />[[Sweet's House]]<br />[[Ryder's House]]<br />[[Emmet's]] | | fronts = [[Grove Street]]<br />[[Johnson House]]<br />[[Sweet's House]]<br />[[Ryder's House]]<br />[[Emmet's]] | ||
| members = [[Sweet]]<br />[[Carl Johnson]]<br />[[Big Smoke]] <small>(deceased)</small><br />[[Ryder]]<small>(deceased)</small><br />[[B Dup]] <small>(former)</small><br />[[Big Bear]]<br />[[Big Devil]] <small>(deceased)</small><br />[[Little Devil]] <small>(deceased)</small><br />[[Tony (GSF)|Tony]] <small>(deceased)</small> | | members = [[Sweet]]<br />[[Carl Johnson]]<br />[[Big Smoke]] <small>(deceased)</small><br />[[Ryder]]<small>(deceased)</small><br />[[B Dup]] <small>(former)</small><br />[[Big Bear]]<br />[[Big Devil]] <small>(deceased)</small><br />[[Little Devil]] <small>(deceased)</small><br />[[Tony (GSF)|Tony]] <small>(deceased)</small><br>Troy<br>Tarnell | ||
|}} | |}} | ||
The '''Grove Street Families''', also known as '''The Families''', '''Groves''' or '''GSF''' for short, are a Los Santos based | The '''Grove Street Families''', also known as '''The Families''', '''Groves''' or '''GSF''' for short, are a set in the Los Santos based street gang that appears in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]]. It is the native gang of the [[protagonist]] of the game, who eventually becomes a high-ranking co-leader. The gang is led by [[Sweet]] and [[Carl Johnson]], and are heavily involved in the criminal underworld of Los Santos and [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|San Andreas]]. | ||
==History== | ==History== | ||
The formation date of the Grove Street Families is unknown. However, it is said that they are one of the oldest gangs in Los Santos. Since the Ballas formed in the 1970's, this puts the formation of the Grove Street Families to the 1960's or earlier. It is | The formation date of the Families, and Grove Street Families as a set is unknown. However, it is said that they are one of the oldest gangs in Los Santos. Since the Ballas formed in the 1970's, this puts the formation of the Grove Street Families to the 1960's or earlier. It is obvious the set was formed in [[Grove Street]], [[Ganton]] due to their name. The Grove Street Families have a history of a traditional, intense, and bloody rivalry with the [[Ballas]]. Specifically when the gang war started is unknown, but the rivalry between the two gangs was in full swing as early as 1987. | ||
The 1987-1992 period saw the Families begin to lose ground to the Ballas who became heavily involved in the drugs trade. Many OG's and high-ranking members were killed at this time - including [[Big Devil]], [[Little Devil]], and [[Tony]] as well the younger brother of Sweet and CJ - [[Brian Johnson]]. Sweet, remained adamant in his objection to the Families becoming involved in the trade. [[Big Smoke]], a high ranking member, began to see the fall of the gang and the potential for power, influence and money the trade could bring. He secretly formed a business deal between the Ballas, [[Los Santos Vagos]] and the corrupt [[C.R.A.S.H.|Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums]] department of the [[LSPD in GTA III Era|LSPD]] for drugs and crack-cocaine, while remaining involved in the Families to pass on information about their activities. Just before CJ's return in 1992, Big Smoke was also able to influence [[Ryder]] about the money and power that they could make from drugs. OG and high-ranking member [[B-Dup]] also becomes involved in the drugs trade and turns away from the GSF and gang-banging - while high-ranking OG [[Big Bear]] becomes a weak and hopeless crack addict and house slave of B-Dup. | The 1987 - 1992 period saw the Families begin to lose ground to the Ballas who became heavily involved in the drugs trade. Many OG's and high-ranking members were killed at this time - including [[Big Devil]], [[Little Devil]], and [[Tony]] as well the younger brother of Sweet and CJ - [[Brian Johnson]]. Sweet, remained adamant in his objection to the Families becoming involved in the trade. [[Big Smoke]], a high ranking member, began to see the fall of the gang and the potential for power, influence and money the trade could bring. He secretly formed a business deal between the Ballas, [[Los Santos Vagos]] and the corrupt [[C.R.A.S.H.|Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums]] department of the [[LSPD in GTA III Era|LSPD]] for drugs and crack-cocaine, while remaining involved in the Families to pass on information about their activities. Just before CJ's return in 1992, Big Smoke was also able to influence [[Ryder]] about the money and power that they could make from drugs. OG and high-ranking member [[B-Dup]] also becomes involved in the drugs trade and turns away from the GSF and gang-banging - while high-ranking OG [[Big Bear]] becomes a weak and hopeless crack addict and house slave of B-Dup. | ||
The Grove Street Families were originally one large gang during the late 1980's. However, during the early 1990's, they split off into different "family" sets. This included the "Seville Boulevard Families", the "Temple Drive Families" and the "Grove Street Families". The primary reason for the split was due to the weakening of the gang by the Ballas and Vagos - causing the Grove Street Families to become unstable, and also because of differences in relation to the drugs trade as [[Sweet]] and the original Grove Street Families set in Ganton were against drug dealing. | The Grove Street Families were originally one large gang during the late 1980's. However, during the early 1990's, they split off into different "family" sets. This included the "Seville Boulevard Families", the "Temple Drive Families" and the "Grove Street Families". The primary reason for the split was due to the weakening of the gang by the Ballas and Vagos - causing the Grove Street Families to become unstable, and also because of differences in relation to the drugs trade as [[Sweet]] and the original Grove Street Families set in Ganton were against drug dealing. | ||
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* Jeffrey "[[OG Loc]]" Cross: Associate, wannabe-member and friend of many OG's including leaders Sweet and CJ. Jeffrey grew up on Grove Street but lacked the physical capability or mentality to join the Families. | * Jeffrey "[[OG Loc]]" Cross: Associate, wannabe-member and friend of many OG's including leaders Sweet and CJ. Jeffrey grew up on Grove Street but lacked the physical capability or mentality to join the Families. | ||
* [[LB]]: Supplier/Associate and friend of Ryder (although not physically seen, he was mentioned multiple times by Ryder). | * [[LB]]: Supplier/Associate and friend of Ryder (although not physically seen, he was mentioned multiple times by Ryder). | ||
* Three Deep: Possible associate or member (although not physically seen, he was mentioned once by Big Smoke). | * Three Deep: Possible associate or member (although not physically seen, he was mentioned once by Big Smoke). | ||
* Troy: Gang Member of the Grove Street Families. | |||
* Tarnell: Gang Member of the Grove Street Families. | |||
==Mission appearances== | ==Mission appearances== | ||
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* [[Los Desperados]] | * [[Los Desperados]] | ||
* [[End of the Line]] | * [[End of the Line]] | ||
==Grove Street Families in the HD Universe== | |||
The existence of Grove Street Families is revealed in a conversation between [[Franklin Clinton]] and [[Lamar Davis]] in the mission [[Hood Safari]]: | |||
Lamar: Eh, you know Grove Street used to be Families hood. <br /> | |||
Franklin: Grove Street Families. Man, [[1992|long time ago]]. <br /> | |||
Lamar: What happened to them dudes? <br /> | |||
Franklin: Shit, I don't know. Could be [[Big Smoke|dead]]. Shit, or could be [[Carl Johnson|CEOs]] by now. <br /> | |||
Lamar: Probably living in some suburb somewhere, driving SUVs and shit, you know, soccer moms and shit, coaching little league football teams. <br /> | |||
Franklin: Yeah, the suburban flight, huh? Probably so. <br /> | |||
Lamar: That's gonna be me and you one day dog. <br /> | |||
Franklin: If we lucky, man. Shit, at the moment, it looks like we're gonna end up the other direction. <br /> | |||
==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||