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== Name == | == Name == | ||
I know Claude was given his name right after the final cutscene in GTA SA,But who '''''Actually'''''payed that much attention to just an easter egg?Besides,how do we know Catalina wasn't having an affair with Claude Speed at the moment during the call?We all know Catalina cheats at the smallest sight of neglect.Plus "Claude" ''is'' silent,which would explain why she feels neglect.He may be my favorite Protagonist But I need to here the voice of the people.-[[User:HuangLee]] | I know Claude was given his name right after the final cutscene in GTA SA,But who '''''Actually'''''payed that much attention to just an easter egg?Besides,how do we know Catalina wasn't having an affair with Claude Speed at the moment during the call?We all know Catalina cheats at the smallest sight of neglect.Plus "Claude" ''is'' silent,which would explain why she feels neglect.He may be my favorite Protagonist But I need to here the voice of the people.-[[User:HuangLee]] | ||
:The name Claude is all that we have to go by. What would you suggest calling the page? Also, in a radio commercial in [[GTA III]] it is said that, "Claude don't speak too much", which is an [[Easter Egg]] for people who have played [[GTA San Andreas]] and then gone back to play GTA III. You're right, there is no hard evidence, but there's more evidence for his name being Claude than any other name. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions? '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC) | :The name Claude is all that we have to go by. What would you suggest calling the page? Also, in a radio commercial in [[Grand Theft Auto III|GTA III]] it is said that, "Claude don't speak too much", which is an [[Easter Egg]] for people who have played [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|GTA San Andreas]] and then gone back to play GTA III. You're right, there is no hard evidence, but there's more evidence for his name being Claude than any other name. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions? '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Now that you mention it,R* hasn't quite mentioned Claude so you are right,This IS all that we to go on.But Claude is also an insult(Though,if used as an insult it would have slightly different spelling) which could be why he was only addressed by said name.I could understand his fan name being Claude but,this just leaves me wondering even more why he wasn't called this in GTA III.I think I understand this could be his name and almost defiantly is but with little to no information given in the game(s),or any confirmation by Rockstar games it just leaves me pondering...-[[User:HuangLee]]. | ::Now that you mention it,R* hasn't quite mentioned Claude so you are right,This IS all that we to go on.But Claude is also an insult(Though,if used as an insult it would have slightly different spelling) which could be why he was only addressed by said name.I could understand his fan name being Claude but,this just leaves me wondering even more why he wasn't called this in GTA III.I think I understand this could be his name and almost defiantly is but with little to no information given in the game(s),or any confirmation by Rockstar games it just leaves me pondering...-[[User:HuangLee]]. | ||
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:::::Yeah but that's not his name. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 02:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC) | :::::Yeah but that's not his name. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 02:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
I guess he wasn't called this in GTA3 because Rockstar did not think of a complete Era. I think they decided to give name to the next protagonist some time after GTA3 was released. Before that it was like "old school" shooters like Doom, HL or Quake. No name, no speaking.--[[User:AndrewK|AndrewK]] 00:14, 5 February 2009 (UTC) | I guess he wasn't called this in GTA3 because Rockstar did not think of a complete Era. I think they decided to give name to the next protagonist some time after GTA3 was released. Before that it was like "old school" shooters like Doom, HL or Quake. No name, no speaking.--[[User:AndrewK|AndrewK]] 00:14, 5 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:You know, there is other evidence that his name is Claude. In GTA3, you were originally going to be able to name your character and the default name was "Claude". You can see this in one of the PC data files and in this screenshot: [http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9276/claude4nq.jpg]. I've also heard that in the PC game files for San Andreas, the character's texture file is titled "Claude", but I've never seen any proof of this. [[User:Christophee|Christophee]] [[User talk:Christophee|(talk)]] 23:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
== His Age == | == His Age == | ||
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How can Claude be between 28-35 in 2008? How old would be in 1992? He'd be a teenager. Like...really. A teenager racing a bunch of wanted felons. | How can Claude be between 28-35 in 2008? How old would be in 1992? He'd be a teenager. Like...really. A teenager racing a bunch of wanted felons. | ||
:It would make sence if he is 35 now because he would be like 19 at GTA SA | :It would make sence if he is 35 now because he would be like 19 at GTA SA but if he is 28 now that would mean he was 12 by GTA SA and he for sure did not look like a 12 year old in SA.-[[User:BloodyGTA]] | ||
::I think I'm the one who added the age thing.I THINK i did.So I guess either I or someone else miscalculated.BTW maybe his birthday is early on and he's barely 35 or maybe he's nearly 36.I don't even remember If I added it or someone else did. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 02:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC) | ::I think I'm the one who added the age thing.I THINK i did.So I guess either I or someone else miscalculated.BTW maybe his birthday is early on and he's barely 35 or maybe he's nearly 36.I don't even remember If I added it or someone else did. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 02:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
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I had some basis but I can't remember it. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 03:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC) | I had some basis but I can't remember it. [[User:HuangLee|HuangLee]] 03:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
If Claude and Claude Speed are the same guy, then this is how I see the storyline: | |||
GTA San Andreas - 1992 - 18 years old | |||
GTA III - 2001 - 27 years old | |||
GTA 2 - if it's set a year after IIII - 28 years old (That's the age of Claude Speed as seen in the GTA 2 Movie). [[User:Claude Speed.|ClaudeSpeed.]] 7:51, 11 July 2010 (GMT +2) | |||
==Game Entries== | ==Game Entries== | ||
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I think it's wrong. And Claude already was present at very old alpha screens | I think it's wrong. And Claude already was present at very old alpha screens | ||
:I didn't mention that Claude wasn't present at the time,What I ment was that they were considering Novy more than Claude but ended up using Claude.-[[User:BloodyGTA]] | :I didn't mention that Claude wasn't present at the time,What I ment was that they were considering Novy more than Claude but ended up using Claude.-[[User:BloodyGTA]] | ||
::Novy is Tom Novy. I think one of rockstar employes liked his music and put his model and texture in-game. Also there is a GTA3 trailer with 'Tom Novy - Back to the streets' track used. | |||
== Date of Birth? == | |||
I don't remember any mention of Claude's year of birth being 1963.May someone please verify.This has also been displayed in other protagonist (Tommy Vercetti,[[Victor Vance]],etc).-[[User:BloodyGTA]] | |||
:Uh, i actually have no idea how that's there... Maybe R* website? [[User:Ess-Tee|Ess-Tee]] 07:23, 1 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Well I have checked the Rockstar websites and there has been no mention of his or any characters age.For sure a false information added by a user.-[[User:BloodyGTA]] | |||
:I seem to remember [[User:Chip2007]] adding random dates to things (I think). I would definitely remove it and ask for proof on the relevant talk pages. Discussions may have happened elsewhere, so check around. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 03:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Claude and Catalina needs to "DRIVE" to Liberty City... == | |||
...But San Andreas is just an island. Why did the developers keep Catalina's line intact when they knew that as an island, Liberty City would be impossible to drive to? How do they drive there ''anyhow?'' --[[User:ENG|ENG]] 12:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Isn't the northern part of San Andreas connected to the mainland? I thought it was. If that's the case, they could easily drive to Liberty City. [[User:Christophee|Christophee]] [[User talk:Christophee|(talk)]] 14:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
::You couldn't have played the game, Christophee. --[[User:ENG|ENG]] 04:49, November 12, 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Keeping in mind that it's a video game, not real life, the cities (after GTA III) are only "islands" for technical reasons, if they didn't do that, then they would have to model an "outside world", which may require a lot of memory, even if it was just low detailed featureless fields. They also would have had to put up an "invisible wall" to prevent the player from flying planes or helicopters away from the city. They didn't need to isolate Liberty City in an ocean in GTA III or GTA LCS because there wasn't any aircraft, unless you were good at flying the Dodo or had a trainer/cheat device - [[User:Hardrock182|Hardrock182]] 17:45, 27 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::Hardrock, I've never owned GTA III, so if I got good at flying the Dodo, what would the land outside Liberty City boundaries be like? What if Claude kept going off the map on/over that land? Can you link a YouTube video of this if you can find it? Thanks. --[[User:ENG|ENG]] 04:51, November 12, 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::If you try to fly out of the map, you be "bounced" back in (in the original PS2 version, it'll crash). If you sail your way out, a strong current prevents you from escaping.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|Spaceeinstein]]''' 05:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC) | |||
==GTAIV Easter Egg== | |||
Could someone tell me where to find the GTAIV Easter Egg telling of the previous protagonists being dead please? [[User:Ghost Leader|Ghost Leader]] 12:24, December 7, 2009 (UTC) | |||
Check here: [[Secrets and Easter Eggs in GTA IV]] | |||
==Fido== | |||
'fido' should not be listed as a nickname, because it is only referred by Maria, she also calls Toni 'fido' in GTA LCS. [[User:mcanmoocanu|mcanmoocanu]] 17:50, December 24, 2009 (UTC) | |||
* Hmm... I don't know. Fido means "Loyal" in Italian, but still. I don't recall Toni being called Fido in LCS but Claude is being popularly known as Fido in III, plus it became a nickname for him in the fanbase. So, that's kind of useless talk nonetheless, people know him as "Fido", so... Why bother? It's just a nickname. [[User:DarkHedge|DarkHedge]] 17:12, December 26, 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Gallery== | |||
Why does the Gallery have so many irrelevent images in it? Sure the artwork of Claude is fine, but Liberty Tree articles and Claude aiming a gun at a paramedics are not very usefull. I thought about cleaning up the gallery, but decided to ask here first. Anyone agree? '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 02:25, April 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Well some of them like the beta images of the Liberty Tree, and certain images that deal with the main plot of the story are acceptable, but some of them I do agree with you on.--[[User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]] 02:34, April 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Im not sure that I understand, Beta images are fine, but a random picture of Claude shooting a Paramedic is generally irrelevent in the gallery (there are already 20 pictures of CLaude). '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 04:43, April 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Evidence that Claude is Claude Speed?== | |||
[[File:Claude-GTAIII-artwork.jpg|thumb|Click to enlarge]] On the official "[http://apps.facebook.com/grandtheftautoquiz/ Which Character Are You?]" Facebook quiz (it's linked to on the Rockstar website), it gives his name as Claude Speed. Whether this is canon or not (the quiz could have been written by a less knowledgeable Rockstar employee) is debateable. To be honest, I didn't think [[Claude Speed]] was the [[Grand Theft Auto 2|GTA 2]] protagonist anyway - the in-game sprite and [[GTA 2: The Movie]] character were visually much different. --- [[User:Bluesboyjr|Bluesboyjr]] 16:16, July 11, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Official Word From Rockstar Regarding the Two Claudes == | |||
On their most recent [http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/19081/asked-answered-max-payne-3-la-noire-red-dead-and-more.html Asked & Answered], Rockstar posted the question "'''I just want to know if Claude Speed (GTA 2) and Claude (GTA III) are the same person'''" with the answer: | |||
"''Probably. It seems very likely but it’s also possible that there are just a lot of angry silent car thieves called Claude out there.''" --[[User:Bluesboyjr|Bluesboyjr]] 21:17, 5 October 2011 (BST) | |||
:I know, I was just about to post about it a second ago. Could this possibly mean that Claude and Claude Speed are the same person?! --[[User:TheJustinAllenK|TheJustinAllenK]] | |||
It's nice that we have an official word from Rockstar - even if it's not a definite yes or no. We've always speculated that they are the same person, but it's still not certain. Definitely worth having this in the article, as it's the most official word we've got. Looks like it will never be known whether they truly are the same person. So we shall continue to treat them separately (but still mention that one might be the other). [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 02:50, 6 October 2011 (BST) | |||
:"Probably. It seems very likely but it’s also possible that ''''''there are just a lot of angry silent car thieves called Claude out there.'''''" It's text, so it's hard to argue, But the second half sounds pretty sarcastic, anyone agree/disagree?--[[User:RJX74|RJX74]] 23:58, 21 October 2011 (BST) | |||
Disagree. Don't analyze what's not there. If R* does not have a definitive answer, then there is no definitive answer. Anything beyond that will be speculation, which is not needed unless the speculation template is used.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 00:08, 22 October 2011 (BST) | |||
:Yes - it's still not certain, no matter how sarcastic the answer. A "probably" is not the same as "yes", even if it came from Rockstar, because the answer ''probably'' didn't come from the actual people who ''created'' the characters (Sam/Dan Houser). As before, it's worth mentioning on both pages that they are "probably" the same person BUT we will never be certain. Don't forget, even if they were the same person, the fact that they're in different eras could make them completely different anyway (like the [[Perennial]]). [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:57, 22 October 2011 (BST) | |||
==Does claude speak== | |||
I regonised that claude cannot speak.When the other characters tell him | |||
to do a mission all he does is nod thats all.The thing is that rockstar never explained this i was just wondering WHY does he not talk? | |||
[[User:Nameless assasin|Nameless assasin]] ([[User talk:Nameless assasin|talk]]) 21:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:R* DID explain the reason [http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/19861/grand-theft-auto-iii-your-questions-answered-part-one-claude-dar.html here]. In short, it's basically technical limitations and time constraints.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 22:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Texas and New Mexico == | |||
Just curious, what evidance is there that Claude and Catalina took their crime spree to Texas, New Mexico and into Mexico? I don't recall ever hearing or reading about that anywhere. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] ([[User talk:Grand Theft AJ|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Grand Theft AJ|edits]]) 15:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC) | |||
:The [[Liberty Tree]] article [http://www.rockstargames.com/libertytree/story3.html Have You Seen This Woman?], about [[Catalina]], states that she robbed banks in Texas and New Mexico. I've never seen anything mentioned about Mexico though. A-Dust 20:51, 21 September 2012 (UTC) | |||