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Name and Gender
- ...has a different gender and name depending on which ending is played...
I don't think that's entirely true - I think that it's too early in the pregnancy to know the gender of the baby. Instead, in each ending it's stated "If it's a boy..." or "If it's a girl..." respectively. Although obviously the names are unique to each ending (they wouldn't name their daughter Kate if it wasn't for the events of the revenge ending). JFletcherTalk (formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever) 10:21, 21 April 2011 (BST)
- To clarify this, check the dialogue after "A Revenger's Tragedy." Mallorie is clear to say it's a boy but does not indicate the name of the baby. After "Out of Commission," no gender is mentioned at all. Roman merely said if it's a girl, he would name her Kate.--spaceeinstein 03:52, 12 September 2011 (BST)
In that case, I think it would be a better move to split the article, rather than move it, as this wiki also needs information on Kate Bellic. However, i think it would be better if we kept the info on one page, as both articles would be short and there isn't much differece between the two.--MrLanceVanceDance 09:19, 12 October 2011 (BST)
- This wiki does not need information on Kate Bellic, because Kate Bellic does not and would not exist, seeing as either way Roman and Mallorie will be having a son. I highly doubt Niko Bellic's choices would alter the gender of his nephew. Grand Theft AJ 01:09, 13 October 2011 (BST)
I think having two articles for two potential names for the same potential future hypothetical character is pushing the boundaries of canon a bit too far!! There should be one article for Roman's Child, and a section explaining the two names/genders mentioned. It is not likely (or biologically possible) that the gender of the child is influenced by Niko's actions, however I don't think we can say it would definitely be a boy in both endings, because the child is not even born during the storyline. Just like the rest of this wiki, this article has to cover events that happen in-game, NOT fan-fiction or non-canon assumptions - so this refers to the unborn child. We can't assume that the child will be safely born, or even what name it will be given (they might change their mind in the remaining time). All we can say for certain is that she is pregnant, gender is mentioned in one version of events, and they say in another version of events that they would name their child Kate if it were a girl. Separate articles for Kate and the son need not exist, as they are only possible future names for the same future character. gboyers talk 06:08, 14 October 2011 (BST)
- I agree with you GBoyers. I think this article is fine the way it is and should not be split, moved or deleted. But guys, just try your best not to bias the article towards "Roman Bellic, Jr" too much. Also, I added a speculation tag just in case it is needed.--MrLanceVanceDance 07:01, 14 October 2011 (BST)
- On the subject of not making assumptions, based on what Spaceeinstein has said (and now that he said it, I think he's right), it seems to me that Roman Bellic Jr is a completely made up name, never mentioned in game - Am I right?
- Also, regarding the sentence Mallorie is pregnant during her wedding in both endings, but is unaware at that time, I don't think that's true. The final mission presumably takes place the day after the wedding, and the phonecall with Roman/Mallorie later that day - So I think that they knew she was pregnant, they just hadn't told anyone yet. I suggest that that line is removed. JFletcherTalk (formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever) 07:28, 14 October 2011 (BST)