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I noticed that there are already some pages in [[:Category:San Andreas Missions]]... is that the tag I should be using? --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 21:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | I noticed that there are already some pages in [[:Category:San Andreas Missions]]... is that the tag I should be using? --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 21:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
:There is a bit of a mess with categories, as both the sets from GTW and the old gta.wikia.com are in here. The categories you should use for most things are "Category:Somethings in GTA San Andreas", eg [[:Category:Radio Stations in GTA III]]. [[:Category:Characters in GTA Vice City]], [[:Category:Missions in GTA San Andreas]], [[:Category:Vehicles in GTA IV]] - all other categories with the same purpose (eg Category:SAVehicles) should be deleted (with all the contents copied across to the proper category) - this is the same structure as page names ([[Missions in GTA San Andreas]]). Also, [[Template:Prod|<nowiki>{{prod}}</nowiki>]] is the "Propose Deletion" template. [[ | :There is a bit of a mess with categories, as both the sets from GTW and the old gta.wikia.com are in here. The categories you should use for most things are "Category:Somethings in GTA San Andreas", eg [[:Category:Radio Stations in GTA III]]. [[:Category:Characters in GTA Vice City]], [[:Category:Missions in GTA San Andreas]], [[:Category:Vehicles in GTA IV]] - all other categories with the same purpose (eg Category:SAVehicles) should be deleted (with all the contents copied across to the proper category) - this is the same structure as page names ([[Missions in GTA San Andreas]]). Also, [[Template:Prod|<nowiki>{{prod}}</nowiki>]] is the "Propose Deletion" template. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] ([[User_talk:Gboyers|?]]) 08:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Thanks. That's what I'd started using, but got a little confusion. Oh, and thanks for the prod tag. --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 19:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | ::Thanks. That's what I'd started using, but got a little confusion. Oh, and thanks for the prod tag. --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 19:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== Updates == | == Updates == | ||
Some of the stuff on the portal needs updating, like mentions of the merge :) I have a stock CP page which I will post on [[User:Kirkburn/Dev]] which you may wish to take some stuff from. Lots of useful links! [[ | Some of the stuff on the portal needs updating, like mentions of the merge :) I have a stock CP page which I will post on [[User:Kirkburn/Dev]] which you may wish to take some stuff from. Lots of useful links! [[User:Kirkburn|Kirkburn]] ([[User_talk:Kirkburn|talk]]) 16:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
: Okay posted it on [[User:Kirkburn/Dev]] - some of the links you already cover, but I would especially recommend adding the link lists at the end. [[ | : Okay posted it on [[User:Kirkburn/Dev]] - some of the links you already cover, but I would especially recommend adding the link lists at the end. [[User:Kirkburn|Kirkburn]] ([[User_talk:Kirkburn|talk]]) 17:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
I've merged in the changes and moved the page back to the "normal" location. [[ | I've merged in the changes and moved the page back to the "normal" location. [[User:Kirkburn|Kirkburn]] ([[User_talk:Kirkburn|talk]]) 20:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Wikia Gaming IRC channel == | == Wikia Gaming IRC channel == | ||
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You may be interested to know there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, '''#wikia-gaming on chat.freenode.net''', where you can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can access it from [http://irc.wikia.com/gaming http://irc.wikia.com/gaming]. | You may be interested to know there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, '''#wikia-gaming on chat.freenode.net''', where you can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can access it from [http://irc.wikia.com/gaming http://irc.wikia.com/gaming]. | ||
Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following [[ | Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following <nowiki>[[Template:Next gaming IRC chat|this link]].</nowiki> | ||
{{ | <nowiki>{{Next gaming IRC chat}}</nowiki> | ||
If you have any questions, [[ | If you have any questions, [[User talk:Kirkburn|don't hesitate to ask me]]! [[User:Kirkburn|Kirkburn]] ([[User_talk:Kirkburn|talk]]) 21:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Profile tools == | == Profile tools == | ||
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== Social tools codebase merge == | == Social tools codebase merge == | ||
As you may have noticed, the wikis with social tools are not on the same codebase as other wikis - we are planning to merge them very soon, so you can have the benefits of all the current code updates on Wikia, plus the latest version of MediaWiki. We plan to do this next week at the earliest (23rd June onwards). Regarding the skin changes, this is also likely to be the moment when you switch to Monaco 3.1 and get the new [[ | As you may have noticed, the wikis with social tools are not on the same codebase as other wikis - we are planning to merge them very soon, so you can have the benefits of all the current code updates on Wikia, plus the latest version of MediaWiki. We plan to do this next week at the earliest (23rd June onwards). Regarding the skin changes, this is also likely to be the moment when you switch to Monaco 3.1 and get the new <nowiki>[[Help:Main page column tags|main page tags]]</nowiki>. | ||
The update may affect the functionality of the social tools, but we are hoping to make sure everything runs smoothly. Thanks! [[ | The update may affect the functionality of the social tools, but we are hoping to make sure everything runs smoothly. Thanks! [[User:Kirkburn|Kirkburn]] ([[User_talk:Kirkburn|talk]]) 11:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
:: Just an update. This was completed today. If you see any issues with any of the social features, or anything acting different please let me know! [[ | :: Just an update. This was completed today. If you see any issues with any of the social features, or anything acting different please let me know! [[User:Angies|angies]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Angies|talk]]) 21:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Style Guide == | == Style Guide == | ||
I've been working on a page I intend to place at [[Grand Theft Wiki:Style Guide]]. I think I've got it to the point that I'm ready for it to be moved... I just wanted to get a few people to take a look at it first, let me know if there's anything I overlooked. It's on User:GuildKnight/Sandbox/2|my sandbox 2; discussions on the talk page, please. Thanks in advance, --[[ | I've been working on a page I intend to place at [[Grand Theft Wiki:Style Guide]]. I think I've got it to the point that I'm ready for it to be moved... I just wanted to get a few people to take a look at it first, let me know if there's anything I overlooked. It's on User:GuildKnight/Sandbox/2|my sandbox 2; discussions on the talk page, please. Thanks in advance, --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 19:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
:There are no arguments voiced, so I'm going to go ahead and move it. Any further conversation regarding the new Style Guide should take place on its [[Grand Theft Wiki talk:Style Guide|talk page]]. --[[ | :There are no arguments voiced, so I'm going to go ahead and move it. Any further conversation regarding the new Style Guide should take place on its [[Grand Theft Wiki talk:Style Guide|talk page]]. --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 22:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Standardized vehicle article layout == | == Standardized vehicle article layout == | ||
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:The current (unwritten) policy on that is to split it into subpages (like /walkthrough on missions) - you could do that for a lot of details about the same vehicle, such as [[Ambulance/handling]]. If a vehicle is totally different inbetween eras, such as the [[Police Car]] or [[Bus]], then I wouldn't have a problem moving the less-important one to another page, such as [[Police Car in GTA 2]]. However I don't think we should do this by standard, certainly not for every page. There would be far too much repeated content, and that is hard to update (as most people would only edit one of them, not every copy). And people would get mixed up and link to the wrong one etc. | :The current (unwritten) policy on that is to split it into subpages (like /walkthrough on missions) - you could do that for a lot of details about the same vehicle, such as [[Ambulance/handling]]. If a vehicle is totally different inbetween eras, such as the [[Police Car]] or [[Bus]], then I wouldn't have a problem moving the less-important one to another page, such as [[Police Car in GTA 2]]. However I don't think we should do this by standard, certainly not for every page. There would be far too much repeated content, and that is hard to update (as most people would only edit one of them, not every copy). And people would get mixed up and link to the wrong one etc. | ||
:So try and use the first method wherever possible (see [[Comet]] or [[Moonbeam]] for half-examples). If you aren't sure what I mean, show me a page you think needs splitting the most (where there are lots of differences), and I'll edit that as an example. When we ''need'' to split stuff into pages, then we can, but we HAVE to maintain links between them all at all times, which is more important than an easy-to-read or massively detailed page. Hope that all makes sense - [[ | :So try and use the first method wherever possible (see [[Comet]] or [[Moonbeam]] for half-examples). If you aren't sure what I mean, show me a page you think needs splitting the most (where there are lots of differences), and I'll edit that as an example. When we ''need'' to split stuff into pages, then we can, but we HAVE to maintain links between them all at all times, which is more important than an easy-to-read or massively detailed page. Hope that all makes sense - [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 19:08, 7 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Game Pages== | ==Game Pages== | ||
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You'll notice, in the "Game Information" sections, that most are links to "''Things'' in GTA ''#''". The ones linked to subpages of the main article are articles about the game itself, not about playing the game. These are subjects that would normally be on the main article, but due to size and ease of use considerations have been split from the main article. | You'll notice, in the "Game Information" sections, that most are links to "''Things'' in GTA ''#''". The ones linked to subpages of the main article are articles about the game itself, not about playing the game. These are subjects that would normally be on the main article, but due to size and ease of use considerations have been split from the main article. | ||
So... Love it, hate it? --[[ | So... Love it, hate it? --[[User:GuildKnight|GuildKnight]]<sup>[[User_talk:GuildKnight|Talk2me]]</sup> 20:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Login Time == | == Login Time == | ||
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:Well, I guess one way of putting it is images that are contained within the text of the article. Mostly ScreenShots, such as of vehicles. For example, the following SS from the FCR-900 page, which should show three images; I looked at the source, searched for the image pages, and I could see them fine there. But on the FCR page itself... | :Well, I guess one way of putting it is images that are contained within the text of the article. Mostly ScreenShots, such as of vehicles. For example, the following SS from the FCR-900 page, which should show three images; I looked at the source, searched for the image pages, and I could see them fine there. But on the FCR page itself... | ||
:And it's like that on just about every page. Also, I checked on two other wikia hosted wikis and I can see that kind of images on them just fine. [[User:Vhazhiphor|Vhazhiphor]] 07:28, August 2, 2010 (UTC) | :And it's like that on just about every page. Also, I checked on two other wikia hosted wikis and I can see that kind of images on them just fine. [[User:Vhazhiphor|Vhazhiphor]] 07:28, August 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:::I'm using FF, too; didn't check IE, to be honest. So... is there a way to fix that? [[User:Vhazhiphor|Vhazhiphor]] 08:44, August 2, 2010 (UTC) | :::I'm using FF, too; didn't check IE, to be honest. So... is there a way to fix that? [[User:Vhazhiphor|Vhazhiphor]] 08:44, August 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::''(Biggest gta fan ever pinged me)'' I'd report this via [[Special:Contact]], our team there are best suited to help out. [[ | ::::''(Biggest gta fan ever pinged me)'' I'd report this via [[Special:Contact]], our team there are best suited to help out. [[User:Kirkburn|Kirkburn]] ([[User_talk:Kirkburn|talk]]) <staff/> 11:55, August 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
I see a big empty screenshot. Where is that at? --[[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]]<staff /> 13:13, August 3, 2010 (UTC) | I see a big empty screenshot. Where is that at? --[[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]]<staff /> 13:13, August 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:The screenshot above seems to be from [[FCR-900]]. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 13:54, August 3, 2010 (UTC) | :The screenshot above seems to be from [[FCR-900]]. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 13:54, August 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Works for me. Its possible that our servers were just being slow when they were creating those thumbnails. | :Works for me. Its possible that our servers were just being slow when they were creating those thumbnails. --[[User:Uberfuzzy|Uberfuzzy]]<staff /> 19:23, August 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I don't seem to have any problems with the image in FX and Chrome, but in IE7 the images seem to not appear depending on the size of the window. | ::I don't seem to have any problems with the image in FX and Chrome, but in IE7 the images seem to not appear depending on the size of the window. --'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]]''' 20:38, August 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Well, I tried a couple of solutions I've seen around the internet. I tried deleting cookies from this site, and checking the firewall, making sure all images load automatically, but it's still not there. Now, if I log out, I can see them (at least on FCR-900, since we seem to be using that for reference now), but logging in they're not there anymore. I looked around in my preferences but nothing seems to indicate why this happens. I even tried increasing image size limit but it didn't fix the issue. Hope that info helps. [[User:Vhazhiphor|Vhazhiphor]] 01:50, August 4, 2010 (UTC) | ::Well, I tried a couple of solutions I've seen around the internet. I tried deleting cookies from this site, and checking the firewall, making sure all images load automatically, but it's still not there. Now, if I log out, I can see them (at least on FCR-900, since we seem to be using that for reference now), but logging in they're not there anymore. I looked around in my preferences but nothing seems to indicate why this happens. I even tried increasing image size limit but it didn't fix the issue. Hope that info helps. [[User:Vhazhiphor|Vhazhiphor]] 01:50, August 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Hello GTA community, | Hello GTA community, | ||
As many of you are probably aware, we will soon be rolling out a | As many of you are probably aware, we will soon be rolling out a new skin on all of Wikia. While designing the new look, we did a thorough assessment of all of the features we offer on Wikia. This wiki was one of those trying out the “social tools”, which for this wiki were: profiles, userboards, awards, gifts, friends, userboxes and gamercards. These are now quite out of date and so will be removed when we flip your wiki over to the new skin. Some of these social tools have similar extensions that are available, such as achievements. We have created a new version of gamercards, which is now available on this wiki. Please contact us via [[Special:Contact]] if you would like achievements, or other new features enabled. | ||
You can view the timeline of the new skin rollout on our [[ | You can view the timeline of the new skin rollout on our <nowiki>[[community:User_blog:Sannse/Important_Updates_on_Wikia’s_New_Look|recent staff blog post]]<nowiki>, and more information on our <nowiki>[[community:The new look|FAQ]]</nowiki>. Our current schedule to remove the social tools on October 13th, one week after the initial release of the new look. We will update you here as that date nears. | ||
We will be reassessing all the tools to see if any should be developed more fully in the future, so please let us know if there are any that worked particularly well for your wiki | We will be reassessing all the tools to see if any should be developed more fully in the future, so please let us know if there are any that worked particularly well for your wiki | ||
--[[User:Sarah Manley|Sarah]]<staff /> <small>([[ | --[[User:Sarah Manley|Sarah]]<staff /> <nowiki><small>([[community:Forum:Community_Central_Forum|Help Forum]]) ([[community:Blog:Wikia_Staff_Blog |blog]])</small></nowiki> 01:27, September 30, 2010 (UTC). | ||
:I think that social profiles have worked very well on this wiki for as long as I've been here. I woulden't see the sense of removing them. As for achievments, I noticed that some wikis who do have them have "Editing Limits" where you can only edit a page a certain amount of times so you are not editing just to get the achievments. As it encorages a lot of unesessery editing. An "Edit Limit" is really un-democratic in my opinion. Sometimes pages need huge amounts of edits, often by the same users to be completed. Personally, I edited [[Pedestrian Dialogue|this page]] over 80 times to get it up to speed. I guess the choice is up to [[User:Gboyers]] though. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 02:17, September 30, 2010 (UTC) | :I think that social profiles have worked very well on this wiki for as long as I've been here. I woulden't see the sense of removing them. As for achievments, I noticed that some wikis who do have them have "Editing Limits" where you can only edit a page a certain amount of times so you are not editing just to get the achievments. As it encorages a lot of unesessery editing. An "Edit Limit" is really un-democratic in my opinion. Sometimes pages need huge amounts of edits, often by the same users to be completed. Personally, I edited [[Pedestrian Dialogue|this page]] over 80 times to get it up to speed. I guess the choice is up to [[User:Gboyers]] though. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 02:17, September 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::2. Thanks for the suggestion. | ::2. Thanks for the suggestion. | ||
::[[User:Maxaxle|Maxaxle]] 00:11, 24 September 2011 (BST) | ::[[User:Maxaxle|Maxaxle]] 00:11, 24 September 2011 (BST) | ||
== Suggestion == | |||
I'm not sure where I should post this but, Would it be possible to looking into changing the colour of the links at the very top of every page, as White is not a good colour to be used on the current background? [[User:Clueless93|Clueless93]] ([[User talk:Clueless93|talk]]) 10:21, 28 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== "Eras" == | |||
Rockstar has officially said a couple of months ago that there are no eras, but there are universes: The 2D universe (GTA, GTA2), the 3D universe (GTA III - GTA VCS) and the HD universe (GTA IV - GTA V). On the wiki V has its own Era, even if it's fairly obvious from the Trailer that it's set in the IV Universe (some cars are identical to those from IV). | |||
what I'm asking for is reorganisation of the Era theory, but I know it'll be rejected because I'm not Wiki staff. [[User:Scrab|Scrab]] ([[User talk:Scrab|talk]]) 07:22, 24 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I've responded to your specific suggestion on [[Talk:GTA IV Era]]. Eras are a grouping system that goes under the universe system - we do use both. Even though GTA V is still within the HD universe (as Rockstar have mentioned), it's still a new era. Even though there are some overlaps (such as vehicles), it's still a new era. | |||
:The only extra thing I'd point out is that the 2011 trailer is very early, perhaps as early as 2 years before release. This would explain why some GTA IV vehicle models had been re-used, and I would expect those to change somewhat before release. I was with Rockstar at the weekend, and I know they still modify parts of games right up until release, literally until a week or two before. I also know they have working alpha copies of games ''several years'' before release, long before even resemble the final game, and that's why models from previous games are used until new ones are made. The trailers haven't shown us anything to suggest that this is "GTA IV, Part II, Niko's trip across the US" or anything that would make us stick it into the IV era. | |||
:So whilst there will be similarities and overlaps (vehicles making an appearance, references to the IV storyline) the games won't be paired together (like expansion packs or a Part II), and they are both part of the HD universe, there's nothing to suggest the games are identical or paired or anything that would make us completely throw away the era grouping system. As I explained, the eras are just a grouping system that explain quite well what goes on and which games are ''definitely'' grouped together. | |||
:Also, having suggestions accepted or rejected is nothing to do with being staff, please don't suggest that. It's true that amongst the staff we have had many discussions about eras, but in the end we've always decided to stick with them. The reason I confidently answer your question is because we've had these discussions many times, and there's still no evidence to suggest it's a bad system or somehow wrong. I'm always happy to have these discussions - that's what makes this wiki what it is, and that's how we've made thousands of decisions over the years. This is all part of the wiki collaboration process! [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 07:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Returning Characters in GTA V == | |||
I'm not sure why there are 2 pages for Jock Cranley. In my post on the [[Talk:Jock Cranley (GTA V)|talk page]] I explained that they are almost certainly the same character. Now another GTA III Era actor has returned: [[Jack Howitzer]] had a [http://www.lifeinvader.com/profile/jackhowitzer Lifeinvader profile]. I think that we shouldn't create different pages for the same character.--[[User:Hehe5|Hehe5]] ([[User talk:Hehe5|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Hehe5|edits]]) 09:12, 12 September 2013 (BST) | |||
:I agree entirely. It is possible that they are a slightly 'reimagined' character with more background and some new details, but just like we do for vehicles, we should list it on the same page unless there is evidence that he is a completely separate person. [[User:Gboyers|gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 09:24, 12 September 2013 (BST) | |||