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::::What, you're trying to say this is simply a staffing problem? I'm sure there's plenty of people willing to help look after this wiki. Look, it's as simple as this: if you no longer wish to stay here, sod off and stop sabotaging it for people that do. Yes, of course it'd be better as a single wiki but it's too late for that - you've already made the wiki fork into two wikis. Users will now have to visit two sites or choose one wiki over the other. And over time, the latter is inevitable. But that still doesn't mean you get to choose for us. We, as individual visitors, get to choose which wiki we go to. And as much as I hate the new skin, the way you lot have been behaving, you've done Wikia a massive favour by making them look like the lesser evil. [[User:Rodney88|Rodney88]] 14:01, October 18, 2010 (UTC) | ::::What, you're trying to say this is simply a staffing problem? I'm sure there's plenty of people willing to help look after this wiki. Look, it's as simple as this: if you no longer wish to stay here, sod off and stop sabotaging it for people that do. Yes, of course it'd be better as a single wiki but it's too late for that - you've already made the wiki fork into two wikis. Users will now have to visit two sites or choose one wiki over the other. And over time, the latter is inevitable. But that still doesn't mean you get to choose for us. We, as individual visitors, get to choose which wiki we go to. And as much as I hate the new skin, the way you lot have been behaving, you've done Wikia a massive favour by making them look like the lesser evil. [[User:Rodney88|Rodney88]] 14:01, October 18, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Rodney - I understand and sympathise with your position. I agree it would be so much better for there to be one single wiki which everyone worked on. I personally believe that having two duplicate wikis is damaging to the community, and I would rather there be one at a consensually-determined location. We (as a community) decided to change host. Not to fork, not to split into two, but to move. I think the community and staff combined ''do'' have the right to move the wiki - the community owns it, not Wikia. As above, that was not imply due to disliking the skin, but the control that Wikia is exerting over the wiki, removing more and more rights from the community and its staff, and ignoring the many comments on the skin and new features.<br>However, Wikia decided to keep running a copy of the wiki here as a fork from GTW. One of our staff members decided to stay behind and keep running this, and decided to point it more in the direction of mods. There was no vandalism, it was intended to be simply deleting the pages that are irrelevant to either wiki. I wasn't threatening to sue, please don't read too far into my comments. There are many issues with licencing on specific pages and images on this wiki. Many things are copyright and permission exists only to host these on GTW, not wikia's copy.<br>I absolutely agree that each individual member of community has the right to choose whether they edit or not. We want to give everyone a fair chance to choose between the two, not for Wikia to commandeer the domain we've been using and pretend that the community is solely hosted there. I absolutely agree that Wikia are free to copy (most of) GTW's content and host their own version, with different staff. However, pretending that the site hasn't moved, denying the existance of GTW, and copying its logo and name are not fair actions on their behalf. [http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/user:gboyers Gboyers] <sup>[http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/User_talk:Gboyers talk]</sup> 14:19, October 18, 2010 (UTC) | |||