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== Police Car Change == | == Police Car Change == | ||
It's a fact that [[Rockstar Games|Rockstar]] changed the design of the [[Police Car|Police Cars]] in [[GTA III]]. Well I have found evidence that the same happened in [[ | It's a fact that [[Rockstar Games|Rockstar]] changed the design of the [[Police Car|Police Cars]] in [[Grand Theft Auto III|GTA III]]. Well I have found evidence that the same happened in [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|Vice City]]. When I didn't have a computer I was really board as I am also temporarily without a [[PlayStation 3|PS3]]. I started flicking through the booklets that come with GTA games (and the maps) and found in the Vice City book, a picture of a white police car under the heading [[Police]] (their green in the game). Unfortunately I don't have the game (or the book) with me, so I can't get a scan until Sunday (Aus time). [[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest gta fan ever]] 06:44, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:I think R* did it out of respect after 9/11. If I remember correctly they changed the livery on the police cars in real life too. [[User:MoNK|MoNK]] 10:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | :I think R* did it out of respect after 9/11. If I remember correctly they changed the livery on the police cars in real life too. [[User:MoNK|MoNK]] 10:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Yeah, I know that that was the case with [[GTA III]], but why did they ever put the white car into [[ | ::Yeah, I know that that was the case with [[Grand Theft Auto III|GTA III]], but why did they ever put the white car into [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|Vice City]] which was 3 years later (I think)? [[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest gta fan ever]] 10:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Maybe it was something to do with the Beta version?? [[User:MoNK|MoNK]] 11:00, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | :::Maybe it was something to do with the Beta version?? [[User:MoNK|MoNK]] 11:00, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Maybe, they probabilly made the book early as well (well at least the basics) to save time later, and forgot to change it. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest gta fan ever]] 11:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | ::::Maybe, they probabilly made the book early as well (well at least the basics) to save time later, and forgot to change it. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest gta fan ever]] 11:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::In my manual I've got the green-and-white we see in game (this is PC version) and in-game I've got both, the White and The Green+white. Can someone check if the white one is in the ps2 game, as i can't check? [[User:ScotlandTheBest|ScotlandTheBest]] 12:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC) | :::::In my manual I've got the green-and-white we see in game (this is PC version) and in-game I've got both, the White and The Green+white. Can someone check if the white one is in the ps2 game, as i can't check? [[User:ScotlandTheBest|ScotlandTheBest]] 12:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
Regarding the [[GTA Vice City]] police car, there is another image on the next page (under the heading ''Crime'') in the same booklet that shows a [[Voodoo]] with green and blue coloration, something I've personally ''never'' seen in all the years I've been playing GTA Vice City. Is it possible that this and the white police car are simply versions R* ended up scrapping in favor of the ones we see in-game? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | Regarding the [[Grand Theft Auto: Vice City|GTA Vice City]] police car, there is another image on the next page (under the heading ''Crime'') in the same booklet that shows a [[Voodoo]] with green and blue coloration, something I've personally ''never'' seen in all the years I've been playing GTA Vice City. Is it possible that this and the white police car are simply versions R* ended up scrapping in favor of the ones we see in-game? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Well that was my original idea, and that they forgot to change the book or for some reason, ''just didn't change it'', because I really didn't see why they would make the book before the game before it even came out. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest gta fan ever]] 00:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | :Well that was my original idea, and that they forgot to change the book or for some reason, ''just didn't change it'', because I really didn't see why they would make the book before the game before it even came out. [[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest gta fan ever]] 00:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Are you sure it's a [[Voodoo]]? It looks like a [[Glendale]] in my manual. I'm not sure if it's because I have a different manual or not. [[User:MoNK|MoNK]] 10:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | ::Are you sure it's a [[Voodoo]]? It looks like a [[Glendale]] in my manual. I'm not sure if it's because I have a different manual or not. [[User:MoNK|MoNK]] 10:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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While discussing the issue of this article's name, why not split the three earliest renditions—the [[Squad Car]] from GTA1, <s>the [[Copper]] from the London packs</s> and the [[Cop Car]] from GTA2—into their respectable articles? This has certainly gone on long enough. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 08:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC) | While discussing the issue of this article's name, why not split the three earliest renditions—the [[Squad Car]] from GTA1, <s>the [[Copper]] from the London packs</s> and the [[Cop Car]] from GTA2—into their respectable articles? This has certainly gone on long enough. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 08:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I have redirected | :I have redirected Police (vehicle) to this page. The article won't be moved because when I moved [[Cop Uniform]] to Cop (clothing) (because it's only called ''cop'' in the game), [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] moved it back saying that we don't use disambig brackets unless we really need to. So while the name is not specific we should leave all police cars from all games in the one article, as the first three don't have much information and would be stubs, like [[Police Cruiser]] and [[Police Patrol]] from GTA IV are very short articles, and I think we should consider merging them into here. The names of the first three police cars should however ''definitely'' redirect back here. Thoughts? '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 09:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
::The names of the polices cars in GTA IV, as well as the early GTAs, are vastly different. If we go ahead with the merge, it also goes against cases where vehicles with even the most minor of spelling and naming differences (like the [[Mesa Grande]] and [[Mesa]], and the [[Buccaneer]] and [[Bucanneer]]) end up with separate articles. wikiGTA also separates cars by their names ([http://nl.wikigta.org/wiki/Police_Cruiser although the "Police" is inaccurately named there]), resulting in multiple articles for cars of different names. I prefer a "see also" section in the end, as shown in the [[Taxi]] and [[Stretch]] articles, for examples. | ::The names of the polices cars in GTA IV, as well as the early GTAs, are vastly different. If we go ahead with the merge, it also goes against cases where vehicles with even the most minor of spelling and naming differences (like the [[Mesa Grande]] and [[Mesa]], and the [[Buccaneer]] and [[Bucanneer]]) end up with separate articles. wikiGTA also separates cars by their names ([http://nl.wikigta.org/wiki/Police_Cruiser although the "Police" is inaccurately named there]), resulting in multiple articles for cars of different names. I prefer a "see also" section in the end, as shown in the [[Taxi]] and [[Stretch]] articles, for examples. | ||
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:::You have a couple of good points there, which makes not just the police cars, but a few things (like all the different Taxis and minor spelling changes) to be discussed. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 10:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC) | :::You have a couple of good points there, which makes not just the police cars, but a few things (like all the different Taxis and minor spelling changes) to be discussed. '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 10:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
After some thought I have | After some thought I have realized that all the different Taxis, separate articles are for Taxis that are in the SAME games but just have different names (because they are different). So there is nothing to discuss there. I think we need a bit of input from other users about the police cars, and the minor spelling changes should also be discussed (and I will be checking to see if it already has). '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I think we should separate articles if both the names and eras are different.--[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]] 00:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | :I think we should separate articles if both the names and eras are different.--[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]] 00:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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::The biggest problem that I see with that is giving the correct article name to the first three police cars, and the two from GTA IV, and leaving the GTA III era '''Police''' in an article with the wrong name (Police Car). Maybe we can put a message at the top saying something like ''This article is about the vehicle called '''Police''' in the [[GTA III Era]], for police cars in other games see the [[Police Car#See Also|See Also section]]'' (or we could name all the cars in that message). Thoughts? '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ::The biggest problem that I see with that is giving the correct article name to the first three police cars, and the two from GTA IV, and leaving the GTA III era '''Police''' in an article with the wrong name (Police Car). Maybe we can put a message at the top saying something like ''This article is about the vehicle called '''Police''' in the [[GTA III Era]], for police cars in other games see the [[Police Car#See Also|See Also section]]'' (or we could name all the cars in that message). Thoughts? '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 00:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::As far as the article heading is concerned, it sounds fine. But what's wrong with | :::As far as the article heading is concerned, it sounds fine. But what's wrong with Police (vehicle) or Police (car) anyway? It seems necessary when naming accuracy is needed. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 12:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Here we have a page for each vehicle. Even if it looks different, the Police car is still essentially the same vehicle for the same purpose. If we split it into | :Here we have a page for each vehicle. Even if it looks different, the Police car is still essentially the same vehicle for the same purpose. If we split it into Police car in GTA III etc, the information on all those pages would be almost identical. So instead we just have one page, and have a section on the different appearances, which makes sense when you think what people would be looking for. If we have a LOT to write about the different appearances, then we could split them up, but still have a central "Police Car" page to discuss the '''USE''' of police vehicles, and to describe the different renditions. I think [[Police Cruiser]] and [[Police Patrol]] are good examples of where the ''differences'' are on a separate page, but the ''similarities'' are still here on this central page. Perhaps you could make a new page for the GTA III era police cars? Police Car in GTA III Era]] is what we would usually call this, which is nicer than Police (GTA III era vehicle) or some daft wikipedia concoction like that.<br>As for naming it [[Police Car]] over Police (vehicle), the simple answer is simplicity. Brackets and mixed-cases are awkward to use, and makes the pages harder to find. It makes so much more sense to call the article "police car" than it does to call it something complicated. We use brackets when we have to, when there is no other option (when it saves us adding 5 additional words), but this will always use a disambig to make it easily findable. Technically the vehicle is called "Police", so technically it should be at Police, but "Police Car" is closer (and more obvious) than "Police (vehicle)". I favour findability, usability and descriptiveness over minor awkward technical minutia. [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 00:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
::The least that can be done is creating a section dedicated to the various names of the car. I'm still bothered the Squad Car and Cop Car are still referred to as the "Police Car". Imagine the confusion if someone intends to locate these cars in vehicle lists or categories. - [[User:ZS|ZS]] 17:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
==White Police Car== | ==White Police Car== | ||
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::::I do have a %100 save game, that's why... | ::::I do have a %100 save game, that's why... | ||
All these years of playing and modding Vice City and I have never experienced this glitch before. I've read many walkthroughs, compilations of glitches, and the forums and seen no mention of this glitch. It's probably a corruption of some sort if your game is not modded at all.--[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]] 21:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC) | All these years of playing and modding Vice City and I have never experienced this glitch before. I've read many walkthroughs, compilations of glitches, and the forums and seen no mention of this glitch. It's probably a corruption of some sort if your game is not modded at all.--[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]] 21:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::I have finished VC to 100% and I NEVER seen white-white police cars or parking ones. I think it's just a glitch or hoax. --[[User:DT-boy|DT-boy]] 13:55, 21 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTvFBLCdrVE I even posted a video of it...] -[[User:ScotlandTheBest|ScotlandTheBest]] 17:24, 21 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
But there is one thing that is related: using a downloaded 100% file. If it's not in the original game, then it must be a glitch on that save file.--[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]] 18:16, 24 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Vandalism. == | |||
Could this be vandalism? | |||
''that an officer will be asleep in the back seat (he may ask for a donut upon awakening). ''--[[User:Snake yo!|Snake.]] 18:07, January 1, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Different livery markings == | |||
In one of the GTA 5 trailers where one of the protagonist is being chased up a vinewood sign there appears to be police cars with differing livery and a sort of police jeep or 4x4 its sort of white with a strip. Its livery isn't the traditional LAPD livery at all. | |||
:This is because it is likely outside of the [[Los Santos in GTA V|Los Santos]] city limits, and it is not the [[LSPD in GTA V|LSPD]] responding. --[[User:IanPhoenix|IanPhoenix]] ([[User talk:IanPhoenix|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/IanPhoenix|edits]]) 23:03, 7 January 2013 (UTC) | |||