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So, why does this article have to be written in such a certain way concerning the death situation? I did my best to make it look non-speculating, but A-Dust reverted it without explanation on the edit summary. It's best to say that the Vance brother was ''possibly'' Vic and that he is indeed not mentioned in the game at any point by name but only on the crime tree of VC's site which doesn't exactly clear up anything either. My 2 cents, besides I don't care what anyone say, I just am tired of being linked to fan-sites and wiki's on forums whenever I'm into this argument. As update, I see you are trying to add "sources" to show what you believe, but honestly you can go and dig up millions of reviews saying Vic is dead or fan sites but none of them actually answer the question. It's like fan-sites and wiki assist together in this to get as many people to believe them and things they say. I'm not saying it's impossible that Vic died but to make it as "fair" as possible to all believers of this theory it's best to just type "possibilities" and "thoughts" as no one is gonna get confused or recommended to believe what this site amongst many other write. And the gamespot source(s) is/are not the best ever to use as it's just reviews. I mean I can also go and write a review on VCS then type throughout that Vic wasn't present in VC, but that doesn't mean it's a fact, it's just what I think on the whole situation. --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 16:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC) | So, why does this article have to be written in such a certain way concerning the death situation? I did my best to make it look non-speculating, but A-Dust reverted it without explanation on the edit summary. It's best to say that the Vance brother was ''possibly'' Vic and that he is indeed not mentioned in the game at any point by name but only on the crime tree of VC's site which doesn't exactly clear up anything either. My 2 cents, besides I don't care what anyone say, I just am tired of being linked to fan-sites and wiki's on forums whenever I'm into this argument. As update, I see you are trying to add "sources" to show what you believe, but honestly you can go and dig up millions of reviews saying Vic is dead or fan sites but none of them actually answer the question. It's like fan-sites and wiki assist together in this to get as many people to believe them and things they say. I'm not saying it's impossible that Vic died but to make it as "fair" as possible to all believers of this theory it's best to just type "possibilities" and "thoughts" as no one is gonna get confused or recommended to believe what this site amongst many other write. And the gamespot source(s) is/are not the best ever to use as it's just reviews. I mean I can also go and write a review on VCS then type throughout that Vic wasn't present in VC, but that doesn't mean it's a fact, it's just what I think on the whole situation. --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 16:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
No i personally do not believe that it is infact Vic. Theres just to many differences between him in VCS and VC. If that guy (in VC) is vic then hes had a serious Meth/Crack addiction, Hes all out of shape, he dont look like Vic, hes accent is different and not to mention the way he easily dies as hes proberbly the best guy with a gun than everyone else in that scene. The only way i can think of is that VC came out first and rockstar may of thought that they wouldnt add another VC game to the series. Saying that it would be really stupid of him to die that easily. As for the easter egg in GTA IV, rockstar added that just as a reference to all the other GTA games for the GTA 3 era. | |||
:Have you been living under a rock? When RockstarGames themselves make a statement about something, like the fact that Vic Vance is killed at the beginning of Vice City... it doesn't need to be debated or questioned anymore... Deal with it, he died, that's what happens when you live a life of crime. And sign your name when you post messages. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] ([[User talk:Grand Theft AJ|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Grand Theft AJ|edits]]) 00:30, 14 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Death 2== | ==Death 2== | ||
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I've changed the article a bit and made all the statements about his death, undecided. That's the best way we can go ahead with it. Because the only things that should stated as facts are words coming from the game developers mouth, which is Rockstar. Discuss before making any changes on this situation. --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 21:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC) | I've changed the article a bit and made all the statements about his death, undecided. That's the best way we can go ahead with it. Because the only things that should stated as facts are words coming from the game developers mouth, which is Rockstar. Discuss before making any changes on this situation. --''[[User talk:GTA4PC|GTA 4 PC]]'' 21:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
Sorry about that, I checked and found no reference either. I don't know where I got the idea that it was.--[[User:Spaceeinstein|spaceeinstein]] 22:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
but who else could it be and he only looks different due to the fact back then visuals looked ugly and he probadly sounds different because theres atleast a 5 year real time difference between there releases they probadly found a different guy to voice him because well his old voice was sort of annoying but this is all my opinion i could be completely wrong but hey were all entitled to our opinion[[User:Killa boy|Killa boy]] 07:51, April 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Death Deletion == | == Death Deletion == | ||
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:They somewhat confirmed Claude's real name through their Facebook app. And why was my sig edited? --'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|Spaceeinstein]]''' 09:36, December 22, 2009 (UTC) | :They somewhat confirmed Claude's real name through their Facebook app. And why was my sig edited? --'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|Spaceeinstein]]''' 09:36, December 22, 2009 (UTC) | ||
look we will probadly never know so just put it under speculation[[User:Killa boy|Killa boy]] 07:54, April 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== VIVA VV == | == VIVA VV == | ||
Vic Vance lives. | |||
Vic Vance lives. Based on the evidence, any commentary to the contrary is claptrap. His fate can no longer be determined by the author(s). Their indecisiveness left his destiny to the non prejudicial, non bias interpretation of gta common gaming sense. The type of sense that kicks in when the writers try to rectify control of fate from the stories gaming evidence, but risk making themselves look stupid in the process. They could've served themselves and the franchise better by leaving the story open. | |||
PS- To darkhedge. Do not delete my commentary again...This is the discussion page, no doubt. [[User:NIM|NIM]] 16:39, December 21, 2009 (UTC). | PS- To darkhedge. Do not delete my commentary again...This is the discussion page, no doubt. [[User:NIM|NIM]] 16:39, December 21, 2009 (UTC). | ||
*Sorry NIM but GT-AJ is right. I deleted your commentary because you didn't read the news | *Sorry NIM but GT-AJ is right. I deleted your commentary because you didn't read the news (EDIT: Plus I didn't want spaceeinstein to lock this page) Now it's fact, canon and explained by R* themselves there is no more debate to be had. Don't see it as personal or because I'm a pro-VV-is-dead, and sorry for the inconveniences. [[User:DarkHedge|DarkHedge]] 17:00, December 26, 2009 (UTC) | ||
NIM, Vic Vance dies, I don't like that he dies, I'd prefer he lived, but Rockstar Games themselves, said on their website Q&A that it was actually Vic who died in Vice City. It sucks, but thats the way it is. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 22:41, December 21, 2009 (UTC) | NIM, Vic Vance dies, I don't like that he dies, I'd prefer he lived, but Rockstar Games themselves, said on their website Q&A that it was actually Vic who died in Vice City. It sucks, but thats the way it is. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 22:41, December 21, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:You know, more people would like GTA if the characters had more development or given the chance. Rockstar could have made it easier by just saying Pete died, cuz he's not an important character in the stories, and it would have kept consistencies between VC and VCS. [[User:Silver Infernus|Silver Infernus]] | |||
::People please! I liked [[Victor Vance]] he was a good guy. But lets face it, he is dead. It's sad yes, but that is how it is. I have put in a request to [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] to lock this page. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 03:46, January 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||
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::Silver infernus. Pete IS important to the story, you DO know that Vic Vance joined the army for Pete, right? You also do know that Vic Vance just wanted money for Pete's sickness, right?. [[User:IanMontes|IanMontes]] 10:21, August 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Army or Marines?== | |||
What's the evidences, that Vic was in army and not in marines? Artwork of Martinez says, that they were marines. Thanks in advance for answer. --[[User:Orto Dogge|Orto Dogge]] 22:35, April 30, 2010 (UTC) | |||
One of Vic's costumes says "Army Fatigues." And his previous position is Fort Baxter "Air" Base! What the hell is going on? All-round military service? Why there's no Green Beret? I think Army may be right, because there's no depiction about marines. And who erase my post about 'Opinion about Vic's Death'? I thought I never touch any truth! --[[User:Mr.Korean|Mr.Korean]] 01:34, May 1, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== 28 and just a corporal == | |||
if vic is 28 he should be at least an e-7 but a corporal is a E-4 rank explain? [http://gta.wikia.com/User:Ymcfadden User:Ymcfadden] July 11th 2010 | |||
maybe he doesn't want to get a promotion and is happy just being a corporal maybe he doesn't want the responsibility of having a higher rank.This is not unusual in the work place many people just stick with one postition in a job and don't want to move up the corporate ladder. Take DC Terry Perkins on the bill for example he's in his 50's and he's still a DC the lowest rank in London Metropolitan C.I.D and I have heard of plenty of coppers who don't want a promotion and are happy with just being a Police Constable. Life isn't just about getting promotions as quickly as possible like in Sims 2 if people want to stay at a certain rank then they can if they want to. I have also heard of Wiseguys in the mafia who want to stay in the middle and don't want to be boss for example Lucchese Wiseguy [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Casso Anthony Casso] he refused to take the postition as Offical Boss because he knew that postition carried a lot of heat with the FBI so he stuck with the rank of underboss because it's safer than capo and carries less heat than boss. it's safer because he was less likely to get whacked or arrested. [[User:Andrew nicholson|Andrew nicholson]] 17:54, July 22, 2010 (UTC) | |||
maybe he got demoted or just signed up. it seems that way at the beginning of the game [[User:Sharpie14]] July 22nd 2010 | |||
It's almost impossible for TV, movies, and video games to get the age/rank ratio right due to how many variables there are when it comes to rising in the ranks. A P2 who's exceptionally good at his MOS might get promoted to PFC over a year before other P2s, for example. [[User:Ghost Leader|Ghost Leader]] ([[User talk:Ghost Leader|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ghost Leader|edits]]) 12:48, 19 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Dominican Republic? == | |||
I am pretty sure that there was reference that Vic (or at least his parents) are from the Dominican Republic. [[User:Kanzler31|Kanzler31]] 03:27, July 30, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== The Graffiti in GTA IV == | |||
can people stop using this as evidence towards claims that he may have(or may not) been killed at the begining of VC, it states they're all dead as a showing that it's a new standalone era, as GTA IV and III eras have they're on cannon [[User:Zachariah Zuan|Zachariah Zuan]] 19:03, August 31, 2010 (UTC) | |||