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:With that article, I was experimenting with a new 2-section layout for characters - basic info, then plot-related stuff. And I was working on an older article rather than a more important newer one. I honestly don't believe that EVERY article containing spoilers should be marked with a spoiler tag - that is silly.  But marking ''sections'' with spoiler tags is more logical - eg "read the rest, but this particular bit has info you might not want to know, your choie". What do you think? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:With that article, I was experimenting with a new 2-section layout for characters - basic info, then plot-related stuff. And I was working on an older article rather than a more important newer one. I honestly don't believe that EVERY article containing spoilers should be marked with a spoiler tag - that is silly.  But marking ''sections'' with spoiler tags is more logical - eg "read the rest, but this particular bit has info you might not want to know, your choie". What do you think? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 23:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::I think that the right place for a spoiler template is where you won't ''expect'' to see a spoiler. Another possible place is where you might expect to see a spoiler but it's not obvious exactly where (a long page with a single paragraph of spoilers?). If we marked EVERY spoiler than EVERY page would have a spoiler warning, so in that sense the spoiler warning is the one on the main page. The other thing is pages that are FULL of spoilers (eg. [[GTA IV Endings]]). If you're deliberately reading that page you expect spoilers, but a link could send you there by mistake (as Gboyers explained to me earlier). I think that if the first line of an article is a spoiler (as was the case with [[Karen]]), the we ''definentley'' need a spoiler warning, but if you get a warning (apart from the title) that this isn't the page you're after (I can't think of an example right now, but I know they exist, so maybe the first sentence can contain the word ending, but have no other detail?) then we don't need one. Now, I typed that as it came to my head, so does it all make sense to you? '''[[User:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[User talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 23:58, 15 December 2008 (UTC)