{{infobox character| |image =Catalina-GTA3.jpg |size = 180px |games = [[Grand Theft Auto III]]
[[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]] |name = Catalina |aka = |gender = F |dob = |pob = |dod =[[2001]] |home = [[Catalina's Hideout|Hideout]], [[Fern Ridge]], [[Red County]], [[State of San Andreas|San Andreas]]
[[Cartel Mansion]], [[Cedar Grove]], [[Shoreside Vale]], [[Liberty City in GTA III Era|Liberty City]] |nationality = [[United States|American]] |family = [[Cesar Vialpando]] (cousin) |affiliations = [[Cesar Vialpando]]
[[Carl Johnson]]
[[Claude]]
[[Miguel]]
[[Colombian Cartel]]
[[Curly Bob]]
[[Uptown Yardies]] |vehicles = [[Buffalo]] |businesses =Drug Dealing
Bank Robberies
Leader of the [[Columbian Cartel]] |voice = [[Cynthia Farrell]] }} '''Catalina''' is a character in the [[Grand Theft Auto]] series and the main antagonist in [[Grand Theft Auto III]] (set in 2001) who also appears as a character in [[Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas]] (set in 1992). She is a criminal in [[Red County]] in GTA San Andreas and the leader of the [[Colombian Cartel]] in GTA III. She is also the cousin of [[Varrios Los Aztecas]] leader [[Cesar Vialpando]]. She is voiced by [[Cynthia Farrell]], who has also voiced characters in the video game ''Batman: Dark Tomorrow''. ==Character history== ===Life until 1992=== Catalina, of mixed Mexican, Dominican and Colombian descent, began her criminal activities at some point before [[1992]], when she [[First Date (GTA SA)|met]] [[Carl Johnson]] at the recommendation of her cousin, [[Cesar Vialpando]], meeting at [[The Welcome Pump]] in [[Dillimore]], with Catalina fending off two men with a [[knife]]. The two become romantically involved, with Catalina putting Johnson through an extreme form of BDSM before committing a robbery. The two begin to rob various 'soft targets' identified by Catalina, including a [[Gasso]] [[Tanker Commander|gas station]] in [[Dillimore]], a [[Small Town Bank|bank]] in [[Palomino Creek]], an [[Inside Track]] [[Against All Odds|betting shop]] in [[Montgomery]] and a [[Local Liquor Store|small liquor store]] in [[Blueberry]]. Their relationship, however, becomes strained over Johnson's desire for money to help try and free his brother [[Sean Johnson|Sweet]], who was [[The Green Sabre|incarcerated]] by the [[Los Santos Police Department]]. After the two separate, she begins a relationship with [[Claude]] and 'helps' him in two races involving [[Carl]] and [[Wu Zi Mu]]. Johnson, who wins both races, wins a [[Doherty Garage|garage]] in [[Doherty]], [[San Fierro]] from Claude, who leaves with Catalina on a nine year journey to [[Liberty City in GTA III Era|Liberty City]]. Catalina, however, continues to phone Carl and tease him about her relationship with Claude. ===1992 to 2001=== Catalina and Claude, after leaving San Andreas, begin a nine year journey to Liberty City, going through many [[United States|American]] states committing bank robberies, including Texas and New Mexico. The two, at some point, return to San Andreas and purchase airline tickets to [[Francis International Airport, Shoreside Vale|Francis International Airport]], which were discovered in Catalina's apartment in "[[Los Santos]] or [[San Fierro|San fierro]]". The two, however, continue on their journey to Liberty City, reaching their destination in October [[2001]]. ===Final year===] After arriving in Liberty City, Catalina begins discussions with and becomes the leader of the [[Colombian Cartel]] and, with some of their members (including [[Miguel]]) rob a [[Bank of Liberty|bank]] in the [[Ghost Town|city]]. After robbing the bank she shoots Claude, leaving him for dead, and explaining that he is 'small time'. She continues her criminal activities with the Cartel, increasing the production of [[SPANK]] and attacking the [[Yakuza]] on [[Staunton Island]] and the [[Leone Family]] on [[Portland Island]]. During this period, Claude managed to [[Introduction (GTA III)|escape]] from an [[LCPD in GTA III Era|LCPD]] convoy with, unintentionally, help from the Colombian Cartel (who were seeking to capture the [[Oriental Gentleman]]) and began working for Leone made man [[Luigi Goterelli]]. After proving himself, Claude begins to work for the Family [[Boss|Don]], [[Salvatore Leone]], who has him follow [[Luigi's Sex Club 7]] barman [[Curly Bob]] to [[Portland Harbor]], where he is seen to sell Leone secrets to Catalina and Miguel. Salvatore then has Claude destroy a freighter used by the Cartel to produce SPANK. Claude later flees to Staunton Island and begins to work for Yakuza co-leader [[Asuka Kasen]] who begins to attack the Cartel following the [[Waka-Gashira Wipeout|death]] of her brother [[Kenji Kasen|Kenji]] at the hands of a 'Cartel assassin', which was really Claude working on orders from [[Donald Love]]. Love later sends Claude to [[Grand Theft Aero|collect a package]] from a construction site in [[Fort Staunton]], where he once again meets Catalina and Miguel, with Catalina shooting Miguel in the back and escaping with the package. Asuka, desperate to exact revenge for her brothers death, begins to torture Miguel for information, with Claude then using the information to attack Cartel interests, including destroying stands selling SPANK run by the [[Uptown Yardies]]. Catalina, however, strikes back and kills both Asuka and Miguel, and kidnapping [[Maria Latore]], using her as a hostage and demanding a [[Money|$]]500,000 [[Ransom (GTA III)|ransom]] be brought to the [[Cartel Mansion|Cartel headquarters]] in [[Cedar Grove]]. Claude decides to [[The Exchange (GTA III)|take the ransom money]] to Catalina and manages to escape an ambush, set up by Catalina, who escapes in a helicopter and keeps Latore hostage. Claude follows Catalina to [[Cochrane Dam]], where he destroys the [[Helicopter (GTA III)|helicopter]] with a [[Rocket Launcher|rocket launcher]], killing Catalina and severely weakening the Cartel. ==Personality== Catalina is portrayed as a reckless and extremely aggressive psychotic who turns on even close partners if they cease to be useful to her (as seen with Carl Johnson, Claude and Miguel). Much more of Catalina's psyche is brought to light during her conversations with Carl Johnson, frequently shooting bystanders during heists and references cannibalism. She also suffers from a persecution complex, possibly due to cruel treatment by her stepfather as a child, telling Johnson that "They had to die because YOU were slow and stupid, like a big fat brat that eats chocolates while his father gives nothing to his step daughter but stale bread!" ==Murders committed== *[[Miguel]] (killed for telling Cartel secrets to Asuka) *[[Asuka Kasen]] (killed to kidnap Maria and for disrupting Cartel activities) ==Mission appearances== ;GTA III *[[Introduction (GTA III)|Introduction]] *[[Cutting The Grass]] *[[Grand Theft Aero]] *[[Kingdom Come]] (Note) *[[Ransom (GTA III)|Ransom]] (Note/Boss) *[[The Exchange (GTA III)|The Exchange]] (Boss/Killed) ;GTA San Andreas *[[First Date (GTA SA)|First Date]] (Boss) *[[Tanker Commander]] (Boss) *[[First Base]] (Boss) *[[Against All Odds]] (Boss) *[[Gone Courting]] (Boss) *[[Local Liquor Store]] (Boss) *[[Made in Heaven]] (Boss) *[[Small Town Bank]] (Boss) *[[Farewell, My Love...]] (Boss) *[[Lure (GTA SA)|Lure]] (Voice) *[[N.O.E.]] (Voice) *[[Home Coming]] (Voice) *[[End of the Line]] (Voice) ==Trivia== *Catalina is the only female [[antagonist]] in the Grand Theft Auto series. *Catalina's top is noticeably different from the original GTAIII PS2 release then the later GTAIII re-releases. *Her surname is never revealed, although being Cesar Vialpando's cousin, there is nothing to suggest her last name is Vialpando. ==Gallery== Image:Have You Seen This Woman Catalina.jpg|An [[LCPD in GTA III Era|LCPD]] photograph of Catalina for a [[Have You Seen This Woman?|liberty tree article]]. Image:TheExchange-GTAIII.jpg|Claude and Catalina during [[The Exchange (GTA III)|The Exchange]]. Image:Catalina&Miguel-GTAIII.jpg|Catalina and Miguel during [[Cutting the Grass]]. {{Colombian Cartel}} {{GTA III Characters}} {{GTA San Andreas Characters}} [[de:Catalina]] [[es:Catalina]] [[Category:Characters|Catalina]] [[Category:Characters in GTA III|Catalina]] [[Category:Characters in GTA San Andreas|Catalina]] [[Category:Antagonists|Catalina]] [[Category:Bosses|Catalina]] [[Category:Deceased Characters|Catalina]] [[Category:Gang Leaders]] [[Category:Gangsters|Catalina]]

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Was wondering whether the page should be moved to either Melvin Harris or Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris. The same would go for Ryder (to Lance Wilson|Lance "Ryder" Wilson), OG Loc (Jeffrey Cross|Jeffrey "OG Loc" Cross), Sweet (to Sean Johnson|Sean "Sweet" Johnson) and Juan Cortez (to Juan Garcia Cortez). Just a suggestion. A-Dust 21:35, 15 May 2007 (BST)

This is a wiki by the way, and I think that the pages should be renamed like that to reflect the real characters, but also have redirects of their "nicknames" so new users can easily find pages. 47
I do not agree. Nobody is going to type in "Melvin Harris" every time they want to find some info on him. Big Smoke is what he is referred to in the game, even though we find out what his real name is.
I believe that people should go by what they are best known as, so all the above pages would be "Big Smoke", "Sweet", "OG Loc" and "Colonel Cortez". For example, Kent Paul is really called "Paul something", but should be be listed as that? If we found out Auntie Poulet's first name, would we put her on "Dorothy Poulet"? Ken is short for Kenneth, but should we have him on "Kenneth Rosenberg"? Obviously not, because we know the person almost exclusively by their nickname.
This debate could go on. And it should. The GTASA PC manual says: Sean "Sweet" Johnson as well as Jizzy B and Maccer and Kent Paul (also note it says Officer Tenpenny instead of Frank). Those are probably the names we should use. However, I don't think Sean "Sweet" Johnson is a good article name - it should be one or the other, not both. So we need to make a decision, and write some specific Policy so that we achieve consistency.
Either All characters should be titled by their full name wherever possible; or
Characters should be titled by what they are best known as, even when a relatively-unknown full-name alternative is available.
I mean, I bet not many people would know who Melvin Harris is if I asked them. If I said Big Smoke, they would. Same with Sean Johnson or Lance Wilson or Jeffrey Cross or Thomas Vercetti or Juan García Cortez or Mitch Baker (without the "Big").
I vote for Sweet, Big Smoke, OG Loc, Ryder, Colonel Cortez, Officer Tenpenny, Officer Pulaski, Kent Paul, Big Mitch Baker etc - because then everyone knows instantly who we are talking about, and the full name (if known) is always in bold at the start of the article.
ps 47 - this is a big decision affecting the naming of articles on the entire wiki, so it needs discussion before you decide that we do it one way or the other. Keep this discussion going - Xenon (?) 22:16, 15 May 2007 (BST)
Now that I have thought about it, it is a much bigger issue then it looks. We need to come to a decision on this. I have reviewed what Xenon has wrote, if Rockstar used Big Smoke as the official name under all descriptions, manuals, strategy guides, etc., then thats what we have to go for. On the other hand we can opt for accuracy. Both ways there have to be redirects to any name the character has. However we then have to pull a compromise when a character is named "Sean "Sweet" Johnson]], because it will just create more of a mess here. Another idea is to look into a official game strategy guide to see how it is done there and the wiki definetly needs to have a poll on this very important issue; so we can make it a standard and add it into the policy.
47 22:30, 15 May 2007 (BST)
Officially, most of the important characters have full names - eg Melvin Harris. However, that is not a good article title because it isn't intuitive... because nobody knows that name. We have already opted for less-complicated titles such as Vehicles in GTA San Andreas instead of List of vehicles in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Can you guess why? This wiki has to be usable more than technically accurate. We don't play things by the book, because there is no book - we write our own rules. There is no doubt that "Big Smoke" is the more well known name, and it is what he is referred to throughout the game, and it is what he is referred to in the official manual that comes with the game (alongside his real name). There is no real reason why we should not use those more common names.
I don't think a poll is a very dignified manner of deciding policy. If we ask a hundred people what they would type in to find out that fat guy from GTA SA, I'd put money on that they would all say Big Smoke. If we voted on which one was correct, that is a lot more subjective. His name is Melvin Harris, that is put at the start of his article as it should always be, but should that be the title of his article? That is not what he is referred to. Another thing is with CJ - he is known as both "Carl" and "CJ" throughout the game, and pretty much everybody would know that CJ stands for Carl Johnson, so that one isn't a problem (we use the technically correct version of the two if both are used a lot).
How should this be decided then? If we can come to an agreement amongst the staff, then that is absolutely fine. If we can't decide, then we'll ask a wider audience. I would prefer specific comments rather than a straightforward vote (which is easy to fake too). If a big fight breaks out then an administrative decision will have to be made at the top level - Xenon (?) 22:45, 15 May 2007 (BST)


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Is there a reason that this page has been moved from Melvin Harris to Big Smoke? A-Dust 20:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a general response to all of the above discussion: I am in favor of using the most prominent in-game designation for characters, and in this case, it seems to me that Big Smoke is the most prominent name used for this character. In fact, the name Melvin Harris never arises in game dialogue, stats, etc., suggesting a naive player would necessarily first look for Big Smoke, and would subsequently be informed by the Wiki article as to his proper name. Isn't that the idea here? EganioTalk 22:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
==edit Age and Date of birth==

I think that Big Smoke born in 1957-1960, and he is 32-35 in GTA San Andreas