Talk:The Lost Brotherhood

Deletion

Bold textWhy is this article being put as deleted.Its a gang that has made an important appearance in GTA IV and there is no reason for this to be up for deletion.-User:BloodyGTA

Agreed. I see no reason for this article to be deleted. I'm sure, with time, it can be expanded and improved upon. At this point in time, I believe it should stay. --Aussiebushmatt 18:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I also agree. I have removed the {{prod}} template accordingly. EganioTalk 21:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Hmm,I agree as well.-HuangLee

Merge

Well there are apparently two identical pages... one titled "The Lost Brotherhood" and the other simply titled "Lost Brotherhood." One contains the gang box already and the other doesn't... I suggest deleting the one without the gang box.-[User:Mafioso86]

NOT delete. MERGE! That's why I added {{merge}}. The difference is that one gets ALL the content from BOTH and the other redirects. If no one does the merge, I will when I have more time. Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 02:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree.Let's merge the pages-HuangLee

Merge complete! but which title should we use? Are they called The Lost Brotherhood in game, or are they just the Lost Brotherhood. (there is a difference here if you can understand how I used the bold and italics to set tone). Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 04:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The Lost MC ????

Where does the MC stand for ? it wont stand for mee (MC_JP) haha :)?

Motorcycle club?--spaceeinstein 21:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes i think you are right, because once at a gangwar Johnny yelled : whe aren't the only MC here


or i dont know

Template

I can't fix it, but the template for the infobox is kinda messed. After the chinatown wars entry under games, the infobox displays | |}}. I don't have the know how as to fixing it, so I thought I'd let someone who does know, know. Mc hammark 18:23, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

I fixed it. -- Master Sima Yi 18:57, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Broker

@Orto Dogge, I understand what you mean, but if you put Broker behind Alderney, people will assume that it is a Liberty City gang, with Alderney being in Liberty City too. But Alderney isn't in Liberty City. And people should know that, imo. I think there should be a distinctive (?) difference. Maybe put it like this?:

Alderney
Liberty City (Broker)

And do I make it less exact? I think it's more exact the way I did it. That is entirely your opinion.

-- Master Sima Yi 19:04, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I met you in this wiki before and I had an opportunity to notice, that you are very good person and add only right edits. I am agree with you and if you care about geographical knowledges of users - I don't wanna stop you. This variant you offered (Alderney/ Liberty City (Broker)) is good for both of us, but I want to ask you to check out Johnny's patches. One of them says, that he is member of TLMC Liberty. So I don't think, that your specification is really necesarry. Also, specification about accessory Broker to LC is obvious and isn't necesarry too. But, just as I said before, I respect you a lot and if you think, that your edit is important - add it without my permission this time. :))) --Orto Dogge 19:25, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
Well, first of all, thanks :). Second, I think that is just shows TLMC Liberty because Alderney is mostly referenced to as being a part of Liberty City, just like Alderney's real-life counterpart, which isn't a part of New York either, but is counted among New York's metropolitian area. I think if we just keep it at my suggestion, we'll all be fine. It can be changed anytime if necessary :). -- Master Sima Yi 20:14, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Affiliations

The Uptown Riders aren't allies with The Lost. If you see members of the Uptown Riders, they will still attack Johnny if they feel threatened or are attacked. Also, the Gunthugs don't neccesarily have to be allies. They don't 'help' The Lost when The Lost is attacked in GTA IV. If you just fire a shot while in their territory, they will start attacking you anyways. The Lost play no part in it. -- Master Sima Yi 06:44, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Brotherhood

I can't really understand why the Lost is called "The Lost Brotherhood". The Angels of Death are also a brotherhood, as you can hear them call each other "brothers". I think it's unnecessary to put the "Brotherhood" part there as I am under the impression that an MC is always a brotherhood. -- Master Sima Yi 08:17, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. The article should be titled "The Lost MC," the gang had a variety of names in the game, but that is what's on the logo and on the patches("TLMC"). In 1% bike gangs it's almost a standard to put "MC" behind your gangs nickname. It doesn't say "TLBMC" or "The Lost Brotherhood MC." On a side note, my favorite name for the gang came from the LCPD data base, and that was "The Lost OMG" for The Lost Outlaw Motorcycle Gang.D16x 08:43, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
Why is that your favorite? Because you also automatically read it as "The Lost Oh My Gosh" like I do? XD Anyways, the Lost constantly call themselves "The Lost MC" and never "The Lost Brotherhood". As being a brother is the whole point of being in a motorcycle club, can a mod move this to "The Lost Motorcycle Club", and do the same thing for the Angels of Death and the Uptown Riders? -- Master Sima Yi 08:47, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
Haha, exactly! I picture the cops going "It's The Lost OMG OMG OMG run!!!" The only time they're referred to as a Brotherhood that I can recall(having issues with M$'s content licenses preventing me from playing the games without freezing, unfortunately cannot give first hand reference on all instances, so grain of salt when I say this) is when Billy gives the "Through this Brotherhood we can give pain the finger" speech. I don't think the Uptown Riders should be referred to as an MC, even though they are, Malc states something along the lines of they don't think of themselves like that. The real life MC they're based on, The Ruff Ryders, also don't refer to themselves as a Motorcycle Club. Most people who ride import bikes, actually, refer to their crews as "Riders." Do agree Angels of Death should, though. It's also on their logo. "Angels of Death MC Liberty"D16x 19:04, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Vehicles

Do they use any CARS for their vehicles or only motocycles? IlyenaFan 13:29, August 1, 2010 (UTC)