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There is no wreck version of the esperanto. the only ones are the vigero, sabre and emperor. Hbriz 22:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Deletion Proposal

I don't entirely agree with the deletion. It does require alot of cleanup, but this could be a useful article (not useful like a mission article, but we have articles less important than this)! Thoughts? Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 07:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I can see your point, but, like I said, the 'beater' variations of the Vigero, Sabre, and Emperor are already mentioned (and pictured) in their respective articles. However, maybe this page could be used to list/feature the burnt-out wrecks that appear throughout the series? For example the Idaho which appeared in the beta version of GTA III only appeared as a burnt out wreck in the final version of the game (as well as every other game in the GTA III era). I also remember seeing several burnt out versions of actual in-game vehicles in GTA IV, for example, the Blista Compact and the Voodoo - which have the same properties as a brick wall. Of course, that information can just be listed on each of the vehicles articles aswell... - Hardrock182 23:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Maybe we can create a category for cars that have wreck versions in GTA IV, and this page could be used for your idea. Also, this page could just be a disambig, with a section for both ideas, linking to cars that have a wreck version in one section, and cars that are found burnt out in another.. Thoughts? Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 00:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Seems like a good idea to me, I suppose the category could just be called something like 'Wrecks' or 'Jumk Cars'. To be honest, I see no problems with the category being used universally to refer to 'beaters' and burnt-out wrecks, as there are no burnt-out versions of the Vigero, Sabre, or Emperor in GTA IV (but their 'beater' counterparts could still be referred to as 'Wrecks' or 'Junk Cars'). Furthermore the Tampa and Clover from GTA San Andreas would fall into that category. - Hardrock182 00:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I have turned the page into a disambig. What do you think of the format? Any other ideas of what this page should be used for? Biggest GTA Fan EverTalk 04:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Wait a minute. The use of beaters can be traced all the way back to GTA:SA, when they had cars with mismatched panels (e.g. the Tampa and Clover), as well as the beater "Ghost" Glendales in the woods. There could be something salvageable about this article. - ZS 16:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Is the Regina a beater?

I don't have GTA IV TLAD but I saw this video on Youtube, and you can see the car backfiring, and at 2:20 you can see what looks to be a beat-up one.--Thescarydude 14:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. Sure the Regina's all beat up, but I think that that's just a not-as-nice version of the Regina showed earlier in the video. MAINEiac4434 20:31, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

It does behave like a beater (junky engine noise and backfiring, just to name some), but it only has a faded body color to show in appearance (on the level of the Tampa and Clover in GTASA). I'll leave it to your guys to decide. - ZS 20:40, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
I can't find the Elegant wrecks on GTA4. Anyone care to post pictures?
Its the most common wreck in the game.
Looks like a Roadmster but with 1994–1999 DeVille taillights, I'm not sure if it is an Elegant, but its generally accepted to be.--Thescarydude 16:04, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

"It's the most common wreck in the game", eh?

Thought it was a Hakumai Haruhi Suzumiya 09:34, August 6, 2010 (UTC)