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::::::I agree that it's questionable, but it's obvious that M.O.B and N.H.H is not the same gang. Instead of occupying neighbouring borougs, they control very distant ones. | ::::::I agree that it's questionable, but it's obvious that M.O.B and N.H.H is not the same gang. Instead of occupying neighbouring borougs, they control very distant | ||
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::::::yes m.o.b, and n.h.h. are different the lcpd database does speak about a firefly projects gang so we should call them the firefly projects gang. | |||
:::::::I never heard this name in game so the best variant may be to rename article to 'Firefly Projects Street Gang' or smth like this. (AlSar) | :::::::I never heard this name in game so the best variant may be to rename article to 'Firefly Projects Street Gang' or smth like this. (AlSar) | ||
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:I know African Americans is an ethnicity, but they are listed like that in the gang list. And your personal opinion is that the current name is fine, but it isn't a fact. The guys who hang out in North Holland, East Holland and Acter are the same guys as these. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 08:11, July 4, 2010 (UTC) | :I know African Americans is an ethnicity, but they are listed like that in the gang list. And your personal opinion is that the current name is fine, but it isn't a fact. The guys who hang out in North Holland, East Holland and Acter are the same guys as these. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 08:11, July 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==M.O.B== | |||
M.O.B is their name, as clearly seen in [[Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars]]. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 08:42, July 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Could you show us where that is said? -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 08:43, July 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::When you play the [[Drug Dealing]] mini game, they are referred to as the M.O.B when the player receives e-mails and deals with them. I have known them to alwys be M.O.B. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 08:47, July 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Could you show us a picture or something showing that? Because all I see is "African Americans". -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 08:50, July 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I think he is referring to "The Mob," I played all of the games thoroughly, and repeatedly. The African American gangsters in Chinatown Wars are just "African Americans," while the unspecified Italian criminal organization(I don't want to say mafia, because made men do not peddle drugs on the streets) are referred to as "The Mob." If you would just pay closer attention to details, you would notice that "The Mob" have common Italian names. Also, the only reference in the entire continuity of the current GTA4 universe to "M.O.B." is a random African American criminal saying "Does the B stand for Bullshit or Bitches?" [[User:D16x|D16x]] 08:53, July 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Someone already changed all the names on the articles. But if I remember correctly, it is mentioned somewhere in the drug dealing e-mails sent to the player during the game. But you may be right, they may be referring to "The Mob" (have not played CW in a long time, so I may be wrong). '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 08:58, July 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Look at [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NmM4YUY25E&feature=related this video]. The first name was in GTA IV. The NHH is in the Firefly Projects. And was the original MOB the gang with the overweight African Americans? Because I've seen other black gangsters. Here are some pictures: | |||
<gallery> | |||
File:MOB-GTA4-members.jpg|Original "MOB". | |||
File:Jamaicans-GTA4-members.jpg|"Jamaican Gang" as dubbed in Turf Wars. | |||
File:TurfWarsmessage.png|Jamaican Gang message. | |||
File:JamaicanGang-GTAIV-2.JPG|Jamaican gang in Firefly Projects. | |||
File:NorthHollandHustlers-GTAIV-members.jpg|North Holland Hustlers. | |||
</gallery> | |||
And which platform do you have GTACW for Chimpso? And which one do you have Master Sima Yi? The platforms could be differing. | |||
--[[:User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]]'' ''<sup>[[User talk:Gta-mysteries|Talk]]</sup> 08:40, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I have both the NDS and PSP versions. The NDS version shows them as "Jamaicans" while the PSP version shows them as "Yardies". As the PSP version is the latest, I guess Rockstar changed the gang's name as they weren't satisfied with the older one. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi|Master Sima Yi]] 17:59, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Depending on the actual name this article may need to be split. Which one came first wasn't it the NDS? And was the M.O.B. grouping all three gang types together?--[[:User:Gta-mysteries|Gta-mysteries]]'' ''<sup>[[User talk:Gta-mysteries|Talk]]</sup> 18:06, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
: Nintendo DS version came out first, you can actually research all that information within the site. M.O.B. isn't a real name, it's something that a random criminal says, "Does the b stand for bitches or bullshit?" M.O.B. is an old term originally made popular by 2pac, which means Money Over Bitches. Before 2pac, it meant "Member Of Bloods." M.O.B. is more of a gang slogan along the lines of an outlaw MCs "FOOF" which would be "Forever Outlaw Outlaw Forever." M.O.B. isn't a name, more of a chant. The only name they are ever given is "African Americans."[[User:D16x|D16x]] 15:41, July 16, 2010 (UTC) | |||