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What do folks think of renaming this article [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|State of San Andreas]]? We could then change [[San Andreas in GTA 1]] to [[San Andreas in GTA 1|City of San Andreas]]. The current names seem a little cumbersome to me. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 03:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC) | What do folks think of renaming this article [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|State of San Andreas]]? We could then change [[San Andreas in GTA 1]] to [[San Andreas in GTA 1|City of San Andreas]]. The current names seem a little cumbersome to me. Thoughts? '''[[User:Eganio|Eganio]]<sup>''[[User talk:Eganio|Talk]]''</sup>''' 03:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
:That ''could'' work! I'm the one that suggested making it like this when this page was just called | :That ''could'' work! I'm the one that suggested making it like this when this page was just called San Andreas and there was the other article for [[San Andreas in GTA 1]]. The reason I suggested like this is because that's how the other cities are set out. eg. [[Liberty City in GTA 1]], [[Liberty City in GTA III Era|Liberty City in GTA III]]/[[Liberty City in GTA III Era|Liberty City Stories]], [[Liberty City in GTA IV Era|Liberty City in GTA IV]], [[Vice City in GTA 1]], [[Vice City in GTA III Era|Vice City in GTA Vice City]]. What does everyone else think about [[user:Eganio|Eganio's]] proposal? '''[[user:Biggest gta fan ever|Biggest GTA Fan Ever]]<sup>''[[user talk:Biggest gta fan ever|Talk]]''</sup>''' 08:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
::I didn't like the idea at first, because it doesn't follow the standard rule of naming things with their real name, and the preference for keeping names short. However I think it does a good job of explaining what the page is about - "San Andreas" is still confusing (no matter how often you explain the difference). I also think City and State is a good distinction, but it needs to be made massively clear what the difference is (with a disambig). Go for it. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 14:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC) | ::I didn't like the idea at first, because it doesn't follow the standard rule of naming things with their real name, and the preference for keeping names short. However I think it does a good job of explaining what the page is about - "San Andreas" is still confusing (no matter how often you explain the difference). I also think City and State is a good distinction, but it needs to be made massively clear what the difference is (with a disambig). Go for it. [[User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 14:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Since then however, the landscape has changed. The state of San Andreas now has two renditions; one appearing in GTA San Andreas, and the other (partially) appearing in GTA V. This means that it may be time to reconsider the titles (perhaps not immediately, but it's a good idea to start discussing this stuff). The way I see it, we have the following options: | Since then however, the landscape has changed. The state of San Andreas now has two renditions; one appearing in GTA San Andreas, and the other (partially) appearing in GTA V. This means that it may be time to reconsider the titles (perhaps not immediately, but it's a good idea to start discussing this stuff). The way I see it, we have the following options: | ||
*Move this page to [[San Andreas in GTA III Era]] - This is consistent with [[Liberty City in GTA III Era]] and [[Vice City in GTA III Era]], and allows for the fact that San Andreas is a part of the GTA III Era's universe (not just one game), and covers any references to San Andreas in the other games. This title may not be as obvious, however, as the following: | *Move this page to [[San Andreas in GTA III Era]] - This is consistent with [[Liberty City in GTA III Era]] and [[Vice City in GTA III Era]], and allows for the fact that San Andreas is a part of the GTA III Era's universe (not just one game), and covers any references to San Andreas in the other games. This title may not be as obvious, however, as the following: | ||
*Move this page back to [[San Andreas in GTA San Andreas]] - Unlike Liberty City and Vice City, San Andreas only appears in one game in this era, so this title can be used without creating the confusion that it did with those cities. ''San Andreas in GTA San Andreas'' however, does seem like a clumsy name. | *Move this page back to [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|San Andreas in GTA San Andreas]] - Unlike Liberty City and Vice City, San Andreas only appears in one game in this era, so this title can be used without creating the confusion that it did with those cities. ''San Andreas in GTA San Andreas'' however, does seem like a clumsy name. | ||
*Leave this page as [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|State of San Andreas]] - This would be a a special case based on the fact that this rendition of the state of San Andreas is the only one to appear in it's entirety in a game. Basically, if this option is chosen, then this article wins due to prominence. Obviously, any necessary links would be added to the top of the page for disambiguation. | *Leave this page as [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|State of San Andreas]] - This would be a a special case based on the fact that this rendition of the state of San Andreas is the only one to appear in it's entirety in a game. Basically, if this option is chosen, then this article wins due to prominence. Obviously, any necessary links would be added to the top of the page for disambiguation. | ||
With options one and two, we would also need to decide what to do with [[City of San Andreas]]. Would that be moved back to [[San Andreas in GTA 1]] for consistency with the rest of the San Andreas articles? Both of these options would also see [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|State of San Andreas]] redirected back to the main disambiguation page for | With options one and two, we would also need to decide what to do with [[City of San Andreas]]. Would that be moved back to [[San Andreas in GTA 1]] for consistency with the rest of the San Andreas articles? Both of these options would also see [[San Andreas in GTA III Era|State of San Andreas]] redirected back to the main disambiguation page for San Andreas. | ||
With any of these three options, we could then create [[San Andreas in GTA V]] for any references to the surroundings of Los Santos in GTA V (when needed that is, in the meantime it may be redirected to [[Los Santos in GTA V]]). That article would be created at that title, and would not be moved to [[San Andreas in GTA V Era]] until the announcement of further games in the GTA V Era. | With any of these three options, we could then create [[San Andreas in GTA V]] for any references to the surroundings of Los Santos in GTA V (when needed that is, in the meantime it may be redirected to [[Los Santos in GTA V]]). That article would be created at that title, and would not be moved to [[San Andreas in GTA V|San Andreas in GTA V Era]] until the announcement of further games in the GTA V Era. | ||
What does everyone think? Does anyone have any other ideas? Thanks. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 07:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC) | What does everyone think? Does anyone have any other ideas? Thanks. '''[[User:JFletcher|JFletcher]]<sup>''[[User talk:JFletcher|Talk]]''</sup>''' <small>(formerly User:Biggest gta fan ever)</small> 07:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC) | ||